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Old 04-24-2011, 12:16 PM   #31
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Re: Road to break 90

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+1 Dagolfdoc. Fantastic explanation.
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Old 04-25-2011, 11:21 AM   #32
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I just got back from golf course. Spent too much time on shortgame (ultimate practice routine FTW) and was too hungry (lol) and tired to hit a lot of balls on DR, but no excuses.

I felt like I was at the course for nearly first time
With less bend in hips I understand I have to move a little closer to the ball, that’s also change the plane of the swing. Felt quite uncomfortable with it at the beginning.
I think I did quite well with rotating hips. Backswing imho wasn’t that bad.
The biggest problem was downswing. I tilted back few times and it was hard for me to remain spine angle. I guess I have to concentrate on that pushing into ground feeling with my feet so my body doesn’t raise up.
Also slipping back my hips was much easier than rotating them back

I need a good sleep today so can work hard tomorrow. Glad I have a week off at my college.
I will try to make some videos to check if I’m on the right track.

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Old 04-25-2011, 02:54 PM   #33
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I just got back from golf course. Spent too much time on shortgame (ultimate practice routine FTW) and was too hungry (lol) and tired to hit a lot of balls on DR, but no excuses.

I felt like I was at the course for nearly first time
With less bend in hips I understand I have to move a little closer to the ball, that’s also change the plane of the swing. Felt quite uncomfortable with it at the beginning.
I think I did quite well with rotating hips. Backswing imho wasn’t that bad.
The biggest problem was downswing. I tilted back few times and it was hard for me to remain spine angle. I guess I have to concentrate on that pushing into ground feeling with my feet so my body doesn’t raise up.
Also slipping back my hips was much easier than rotating them back

I need a good sleep today so can work hard tomorrow. Glad I have a week off at my college.
I will try to make some videos to check if I’m on the right track.

Marek
Keep going. Lots of repetitions in between hitting balls.
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Old 04-25-2011, 09:15 PM   #34
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Re: Road to break 90

ugh gave this thread a quick look over and realized that you are getting way to technical. just get out there and figure things out, and everything will start to click...getting this technical >90 is very unnecessary.
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Old 04-25-2011, 09:21 PM   #35
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Re: Road to break 90

this is my first year playing golf with the even the slightest degree of dedication beyond being a weekend warrior and I went from never breaking 90 to shooting low-mid 80's (and high 70's on occasion). changed my swing drastically in all areas from flopping to driving but I feel like I figured the majority of it out on my own with almost no technical help. it literally feels like everything clicked overnight, it was an amazing feeling and I hope you reach your goals soon.
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Old 04-26-2011, 05:24 AM   #36
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^ people have a variety of learning styles.

LFC, when I'm working on a big swing change (which setup certainly is) the first day is a disaster, the second day is pretty good, and by the 3rd day I'm already letting some of my old habits creep in (dammit). Keep at it!
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Old 04-26-2011, 02:00 PM   #37
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ugh gave this thread a quick look over and realized that you are getting way to technical. just get out there and figure things out, and everything will start to click...getting this technical >90 is very unnecessary.
I really disagree with this point. Top class players have coaches. What makes you think that lesser talented players can sort out their golf swings all by themselves.

What you think you do in your golf swing is now what you physically actually do.
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Old 04-26-2011, 02:45 PM   #38
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^^ I agree
I think you can break 90 just figuring things on your own but it definitely takes more time. What’s more- you will have many bad habits and later when you will be trying to break 80 it’s going to be almost impossible and anyway you will have to start from the beginning with a coach.
So if you want to be a good golfer I think it’s better to start right away with coach. If playing around 90-100 is enough for you- go by yourself
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Old 04-26-2011, 03:29 PM   #39
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Another practicing day.
Almost haven’t focused on anything else beside posture and hips rotation.
Uploaded videos just to check if I’m on a good track.

Few thoughts:
1) I feel like I’m standing to close to the ball. Don’t know If heel (?) of club’s head shouldn’t been a little bit lower but, than I would have to bend a little more in my hips.
Maybe it’s just a wrong feeling because used to stand much further from the ball.
2) Correlated feeling with that above- I feel like I don’t have much space for my hands during downswing and through the impact.
3) It’s hard for me to keep my right foot bend during backswing. It straightens quite often.
4) When I watch my swing I really hate it. Looks like I want to swing gracefully instead of just hitting f*** ball
5) I see so many other mistakes (too long backswing and where the F does my club (head) goes at the top? New Furyk ? ), but as I said I was concentrating only on those two things.

Feel free to comment.
Also let me know if the slow motion at the end is any good because I’m editing it at home because my camera doesn’t have slow motion mode. If it’s not helpful I just won’t do it and hit 3 more ball instead of

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au-iSyo8_iI

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Old 04-26-2011, 04:36 PM   #40
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Re: Road to break 90

Just a quick couple of thoughts from a hack...

Something that has really helped me when practicing setup and practicing when the weather is bad is to find a big mirror at home or at work or wherever you spend the majority of your time and just practice a bit. Do your setup a few times and look in the mirror when you think you're set up perfectly, repeat this until you think it looks right every time.

Also I know for sure that every time I have tried to "fix" my own swing it has ended up badly so don't feel that this thread is too technical for you or anything like that.

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Old 04-26-2011, 04:46 PM   #41
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Re: Road to break 90

Just looked at the new videos.

To me your setup look much much better now - good job

I don't think your standing too close to the ball at all.

Your backswing looks a bit too long. Try shortening it a bit and see if that won't give you a bit more consistency in your ball-striking.

I am in no way qualified to comment on anyones swing, so that the above FWIW. Also I think your swing actually looks pretty damn good especially compared to a lot of people with relatively low hcps. The thing is that since you haven't played this game for very long you haven't hit enough golf shots to learn how to repeat the same motion every time and how to compensate for the "mistakes" you are making.

Stay patient and listen to the qualified people on this site. I am sure you are on the right track Keep working on your short game and know your limitations in your full iron/fairway metal/driver shots and I think you can break 90 this year.
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Old 04-26-2011, 05:32 PM   #42
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This is the position you should be in at the top of the backswing but with a flexed right knee. Your swing goes back way past the correct position. Work on getting your right hand away from your right shoulder at the top of the backswing.

Your posture is much better.
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Old 04-26-2011, 05:34 PM   #43
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This position is something to change later. You attack the ball from the outside ie too steep. To explain the correct position would take too long, so I will post the correct plane and body position in another post.
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Old 04-26-2011, 05:42 PM   #44
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Copy this is the mirror. Right knee kicks in, weight shifts onto the left side, wrist hinge is maintained. Crisp ball striking and the end to fat, pulled and sliced shots.

Swing on plane. You do not have to hit balls to work on this position.

Backswing shorter first though. Good luck.
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Old 04-26-2011, 07:25 PM   #45
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To piggyback on what huntypro says for the downswing... You want to try to get the low point of your swing in front of the ball (hit ball first, then ground). Along with what he says, the first move on the downswing consists of the following (done simultaneously):

1. Weight shift toward your left leg (parallel to target line). There's debate about whether the weight should stay centered on the backswing or load into the right side. But one thing that is agreed upon is that at impact, a majority of your weight should be on your left side (60-80+% depending on club and shot). To do it right, it will probably feel like 90% for you initially.
2. Right elbow should drop toward your side. This will enable you to attack the ball from the inside. The horizontal arc that your club traces on the ground should be close to its apex (or just before) at impact. Right now, there's a lot of gap between the elbow and right side for most of your downswing. This results in the over-the-top cast move that so many people have. You will probably have to feel like your going to jab yourself in the side with your elbow to make the appropriate adjustment.

If you do those two things, you may find yourself hitting the ball fat and thin. The reason is that you have learned to stand up and flip your wrists (while hanging back during the downswing). You do this because this is the only way to keep from hitting it fat when your swing bottom is at (or slightly behind) the ball. You'll need to resist the urge to perform either of those moves (some of which will be mitigated by doing the above).

Get that weight shifted and elbow in, and then turn/pivot with the hips and shoulders to sling the arms and club around the body. Good luck!

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