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Old 07-25-2012, 09:22 PM   #1
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Please help my swing (videos)

Hey guys,

I read through a lot of Augies thread and saw that he was getting awesome advice and had made a huge improvement from start to now.

I just got an iphone and figured I'd try and record my swing for the first time. I've never seen it myself.

I golfed a ton in the summer about 10 years ago and was regularly shooting mid 90's on easy courses. Was slicing a lot back then.

Life got in the way and haven't really been out much in the last 10 years. Just started again recently after finding a buddy to go with.

We're playing a really easy course and I'm shooting low to mid 90's pretty much every time. It's like 6300 or so. I get regularly get about 3 pars per 9 but I also triple a lot.

I guess I would say the majority of my misses are slices but really they're all over the place. I don't know if it is due to me trying too many things I see on youtube or what but on any shot I can snap hook to snap slice, to a top.

I'm REGULARLY pushing my shots rights. Actually yeah that's probably the thing that happens most. Most the time w/o a slice but sometimes with the spin.

I'm using a $300 (10 years ago) set of clubs called Tour Edge sp1. I'm planning on possibly purchasing a better set this winter now that I can afford it and am golfing again.

I realize I'm quite the doughboy but I'm working on it. Been doing starting strength for a couple months now and have just started a couch to 5k running program.

I would like to post some videos regularly (at least until snow there is a dome some what close though).

Thanks for any advice. Sorry about the bad camera work it'll be better next time.

Josh

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Old 07-25-2012, 10:45 PM   #2
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Re: Please help my swing (videos)

yea, camera work is awful next time make sure the ball is in the frame.

first some general advice you might find helpful:

-the most critical thing that has helped my improvement has been this chart and this thread. keep the chart handy or memorize it...knowing why the ball flies the way it does allows you to correct yourself out on the course or on the range, instead of relying completely on outside feedback. for the longest time i thought that the cure for a push and a slice was the same thing. if you don't know how the swing works, the things you try to do to fix yourself might make it worse.

-if you really want to invest money in improving, the first thing you should buy is a high speed camera. i wish i had done it sooner. new clubs can wait. i can recommend a specific camera for you when you are ready to buy it. one of the most helpful things has been comparing my swing in slow motion side by side with PGA tour swings. really helps to recognize your flaws.

-when you want to change something, over-exaggerate in the opposite direction. if you're on the range hitting a slice over and over, don't try to hit it straight, try to hit a snap-hook. once you achieve that, it will be easier to feel the middle where you should be.

-when you're on the range, only work on ONE THING at a time. it's so much easier to change flaws this way. right now i see multiple problems that you will need to fix. but if you try to think about them all at once, you won't make much progress.

-do yoga.

three homework assignments for next time at the range:

work on your posture. it's not bad but you're hunched over on the iron shots. chest needs to be more up in the air, arms should hang down naturally. driver should have the most upright stance and as the clubs get shorter, bend over more at the hips. just watch a ton of youtube videos on posture and practice in front of your mirror or your camera and make it match what you're watching.

second assignment is wrist c0ck. i have the same wrist problem as you and i've been fighting it for months now. the correct motion is counter-intuitive. as your arms and chest move the backswing, the wrists should c0ck straight up. it will feel strange. it will feel like your club is way too far outside plane. but it won't be.

you're doing the same thing i do, flipping the wrists back. it's what "feels right" but what feels good is not always identical to what you should be doing.

third homework assignment is to stop using your arms so much. i have this problem too and it's related to the wrist **** problem. watching a good player swing, it looks like they are just swinging their arms back and through. but the power should come from the body...feet, legs, midsection. once again, it will feel weird. during the swing, pretend you are using your body to slap at the ball with your arms, as if your arms were wet noodles attached to your wrists. make the arms weightless, no tension at all. your arms will do what they need to do on their own, you don't need to use them.

more evidence that you're using too much arms is your backswing is HUGE! it looks like mine used to look....way too friggin' big. next time you go to the range, figure out which club you hit 120 yards. hit a few shots, and then try to hit that same club 120 yards while swinging at 50% power. you will be pleasantly surprised to find that you can easily do it. it will feel like a chip shot, just always remember, when you're making changes it won't feel right.
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:15 PM   #3
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Re: Please help my swing (videos)

video of just the grip
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Old 04-04-2013, 11:26 AM   #4
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Josh, ive played golf my entire life & although i dont have time at mo to watch ur swing vids, i will later, but something that i find really helps guys, is dont compare ur swing to a PGA pro's swing, compare it to a LPGA pro's swing. Reason i say that, is the woman have better tempo & overall form than the men. Woman swing lots slower & there excellent ball strikers cos of their inability to use brute strength like the men, so imo the woman have top notch form & u cant go wrong immulating the avg lpga swing.
Jus to reiterate what the above post said, LETS SEE UR GRIP. Do u interlock ur grip?
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Old 04-05-2013, 12:36 AM   #5
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Re: Please help my swing (videos)

looks like you don't set the club and then (w/ a good leg drive) pivot down and under your upper body; but, rather get the club to the top and then use your upper body to swing/slide through the ball..........would have to see lots of pix to know anything really worth much.............good luck......b
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Old 04-06-2013, 03:00 PM   #6
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Hey josh,

So after watching the 7iron vid, i can def tell u that uv got a lil bit of a baseball swing n there. Correct me if im wrong, but u look as though ur tall (perhaps 6"2+), & with a guy ur size, all uv gotta do is square it up & the clubs gonna do all the work for u. (regardless off how old ur clubs are, cos in reality its always gonna be the indian, not the arrows he uses). What i mean bout using ur heighth is, ur swing needs to b more of a pendellum & ur hips/shoulders need to relax more & rotate. You need slow down ur swing a lil bit, work on the above & find a good smooth tempo. My cousin was 3time big ten player of the year @IU, & 1 thing he taught me was something that can help eleviate the above issue, is imagine urself standing on the range & u have an open window behind u in ur backswing & ur goal is to slowly start ur backswing & focus on trying to get the club thru the open window without shattering it & then take it all the way to the top of ur backswing & when u transition to start ur follow thru, focus on the same thing, not shattering the window. Do this excersize slwly & make sure u never take ur eye off the ball. This tip was given to my cousin by the famous coach Sam Carmicheal IU's golf coach.
Also loosen ur grip.
Let me know if that helps. gl
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