tuq don't want no scrub
scrub is guy that can't get no love from tuq

and i don't think just playing more tournaments is the answer to him blowing 3 foot putts in the final round. playing more may help give him more opportunities to figure it out, but I don't think this is something you just play through.

Well he was there 3 years ago... then he hardly played in 2010 and was injured for a lot of 2011. He's healthy now, and its pretty easy to see from his last 5 outings that he is playing his best since 09 and getting better just about every tournament. It's also not surprising that short game seems to be holding him back right now, as that was deprived some practice time I'm sure while he has been working on the swing change.

Phil missed the cut in his first event this year now he is on top of the world, crowned the Tiger slayer. Tiger's played very well in every event he's played since last November and he sucks. Haha.

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So you're saying he's due!

I used to be a Tiger fanboi, but what turned me off to him before the scandal was all the "almost there" crap. Its a bit of a way of saying he isn't dominating because something is just not right, but gee everyone knows he really should still be dominating if he was "there". This neglects the fact that the fields are stronger and his game is simply declining (flashes but not the consistency of his younger days), and is constant feed for the Tiger-obsessed media machine. This may be unintentional on his part, but is big part of his narcissism, imo. No other player to my knowledge (except Phil on occasions) has to give a litany of all the ways their game isn't quite "there" when they lose. Others have the humility to just lose because they can't win 'em all. The fact is, until he gets "there" again, he should shut the **** up about it, as you say. Because its quite possible he'll never be "there" again, and/or others are already there with him. If he needs a new swing every 3 years, then so be it. But stop dragging it out like a handicap everytime you lose, you're over 35 now, for ****'s sake.

I know what you mean but narcissism and arrogance is a necessary (imo) quality for someone who is that great. IIRC, Nicklaus never admitted to hitting a bad putt, always had an excuse (spike mark, bad read, etc).

Agree it gets old, but it is a valid argument regarding Tiger simply because of how dominant he was previously.

I don't buy the argument that the competition has gotten so much better, as if Tiger's competition sucked during his years of domination. If he was playing now like he did then, he'd be dominating the tour, again. So the "almost there" is sort of waiting for him to regain that form, because we all remember it... the fact that we see flashes of it now and then only feeds the argument that he's almost there...

Bottom line for Tiger is confidence right now. His new swing has come around but he has been playing badly in final rounds. I think he can be dominant again if he gets a few wins under his belt.

- putting is wtf bad, especially from short range. That's something that can at least be fixed on a temporary basis (ask Bernhard Langer, who has managed to win twice at Augusta despite fighting putting demons his whole career). But like a pro said once, "once you have the yips, you have the yips". It's like herpes. I haven't been paying much attention to his stroke on the short misses to see if there's something amiss there, but from memory the misses I recall have all been to the right, which is the classic righthanded player shove. Pretty sure when Phil goes off the rails and starts missing short putts most of his are to the left.

- attitude. His body language is just wtf terrible, even by the lofty standards of surliness he's set for years. Obviously a lot of this has to do with the entire modern world being made aware of his indiscretions and preference for marginally attractive women and other embarrassing details of his personal life. It's set up a sort of polarizing environment where people are either Tiger toadies who will love him no matter what or others who are disgusted or otherwise tired of it all. In short, his life isn't as fun for him as it used to be. Whether or not this bleeds into his results I don't know, but I suspect it does put pressure on him on Sundays and it shows in the results.

You know I'm as big a fanboi as they come, but I think something is different this time. I still think (and hope) he gets back to being TW, but the last two Sunday performances are concerning.

Full swing seems fine. He's hitting it better and further than he has hit it in 10 years. The putting is something different. 3 different putters in the last 12 months (and now a new grip!), a wholesale change of his stroke, etc. Mentally something is different with his putting. Whether it's just getting old or something that changed due to last few years I don't know, but it feels like something other than "need reps." Hope I'm wrong.

First, blame a lot of that on the media. Nobody else gets asked questions about the state of his game like Tiger. Like, if [insert Tour player here] were going through a major swing change with a new coach, and was asked about his progress, it would be a completely reasonable response to say that they were getting close.

But second, there is a distinct difference between just not playing well and not playing well while working through a swing change.

Agree with this for the most part.

Tiger is an elite player. One of twenty players that can easily win any week.

So his chances are 20-1 know.

I remember when his odds of winning a golf tournament were 1-1 and I was betting against him and getting my ass kicked. I had the entire field!

He is an amazing golfer still, but that stretch of a decade is probably the most dominant any player has been in any sport in relation to the rest.

Now this is a good post tuq.

My lineup for this week's Northern Trust Open on a 100k salary cap:


Aaron Baddeley $24,570
Josh Teater $11,256
K.J. Choi $21,196
Dustin Johnson $20,847
Keegan Bradley $14,448
Patrick Cantlay $7,594
Total Salary $99,911

My only hangup was taking Choi over Mahan or Day....

I took Baddeley, Choi, and DJohnson in fantasy. Thought about Stanley, Mahan and Na, but didn't take them. Nice field this week, should be a great tournament.

he won alot because he didnt have to play anybody. Its just a fact. I cant believe so many ppl are still on his jock.
First of all hes a pos. Cusses kids, never tips, and if anybody starts getting any attention around the diva they get fired.
I would def put him in top 5 all time but he would have to get to 26 majors for me to consider hime 1st. Also would have to do something as amazing as 86 and jacks run at the age of 58 on 1 hip.
By the way u guys know jack played his whole career with bad hip right.
Please tiger was good but slightly overrated to call him goat which they were already doing a few years ago.

Remember he didnt have to beat anybody for his majors

I'm sure you have no proof that he never tips, just rumors and stories that have been passed around. Also, your story is the only one that discusses his "cursing kids".

Any explanation for the random number of 26 that you picked? I'm curious.

yes well i would allow him a sliding scale and im being very generous. Jack had 19 2nds and 9 3rds the 3rds im guessing. He also did it vs much much tougher competition. So he needs to go way beyond 20 to acct for that. As is hes nowhere close to that now.
18 wins 19 seconds 9 thirds is complete domination.

Saw the cussin with my own eyes. My best friend was asst pro at sawgrass saw the tipping

LEOSLAYER4MOD imo!!! He can backfill cwice, who tosses Tiger's salad like he's his personal chef.

lolllllllll

malice name any great players hes had to beat for a major. the fact is todays players are pussies. its not their fault they were just conditioned that way.

leo you are delusional if you think today's fields are weaker than fields from 30+ years ago.

hahah

Agreed, fields are way deeper nowadays, the guy who is the 75th or 100th best player in today's tournaments is way more capable of winning/placing high than said player 30-50 years ago.

re: the bolded part. Maybe you forgot Tiger won the 2008 US Open on 1 leg?