MISC/RANDOM/BS Golf Chatter Thread

[ZBTHorton]

Originally Posted by UCBananaboy

I disagree, I have seen a lot of people shoot 94 who really aren't that great ballstrikers. Moreso than good ball strikers who just piss away shots around the green - hence why I said getting fitted isn't that essential at this stage.

I agree though, lots of stats regarding his game are key to making an appropriate call though.

I guess I am just lucky to have never needed adjusted clubs

I have no idea what your disagreeing with. I don't care whether he is a good ball striker who can't putt/chip, or whether he is a below average ball striker who is good around the greens, there is absolutely no disadvantage to getting custom fit for your clubs.

94 isn't even that bad of a score, that's like basically bogey golf. I know tons of bogey golfers who hit the ball fairly well but just don't know how to score. A huge % of them would be helped by a basic club fitting. It's not like it's expensive. He can get a pretty basic fitting for free at most golf shops. I'm not saying he should ship 500$ to a custom club fitter, I'm saying he needs to make sure he's got the right shaft in his clubs, make sure his lie angles are correct, and make sure his clubs are the right length.

Although, it should be said at this point, that with a driver/3 wood, this stuff should really be done at time of sale.

[UCBananaboy]

Originally Posted by ZBTHorton

I have no idea what your disagreeing with. I don't care whether he is a good ball striker who can't putt/chip, or whether he is a below average ball striker who is good around the greens, there is absolutely no disadvantage to getting custom fit for your clubs.

94 isn't even that bad of a score, that's like basically bogey golf. I know tons of bogey golfers who hit the ball fairly well but just don't know how to score. A huge % of them would be helped by a basic club fitting. It's not like it's expensive. He can get a pretty basic fitting for free at most golf shops. I'm not saying he should ship 500$ to a custom club fitter, I'm saying he needs to make sure he's got the right shaft in his clubs, make sure his lie angles are correct, and make sure his clubs are the right length.

Although, it should be said at this point, that with a driver/3 wood, this stuff should really be done at time of sale.

Fitting is quite expensive, if you think of all the alterations that will be needed. It is likely that he isn't a standard lie and that his shafts aren't optimal for his skills -- therefore he will have to get 13 of his clubs bent and reshafted, at a pretty hefty cost. That money would be better spent on a lesson tbh.

The only real fitting that would be very beneficial is if this OP is like 6'4" and needs lengthened clubs. Otherwise the lie angle and shaft will have fairly minimal results. He might hit it a few yards shorter or hit it with a bit more left/right tail -- again though, fitting isn't entirely free.

[Spenda]

yea cuz $150 that could save a player 1-3 strokes a round for the rest of the time they use their clubs is "quite expensive"

who are you, are you just some golfer who reads internet forums, do you just read your monthly golf digest, are you an instructor?

fitting is optimal, necessary, and is not expensive at all compared to what ppl are paying for a set of clubs.

[sylar]

Originally Posted by Spenda

****ty posts don't need to be threads

did tuq die and make Spenda mod?

[sylar]

Originally Posted by Spenda

yea cuz $150 that could save a player 1-3 strokes a round for the rest of the time they use their clubs is "quite expensive"

who are you, are you just some golfer who reads internet forums, do you just read your monthly golf digest, are you an instructor?

fitting is optimal, necessary, and is not expensive at all compared to what ppl are paying for a set of clubs.

interesting. where would you recommend getting fitted? at golfsmith or would a regular smalling store/pro-shop do? what kind of equipment do i need to ask them about before agreeing to get fitted?

[Spenda]

well if you're buying new clubs at a major golf retailer the fitting "*should** be free! In some cases the clubs might have to be special ordered (at no added cost) and some upgrades (i.e. better grips/shafts) can cost more.

If you go this route you will have to settle with being fitted by the salesperson at one of these stores, or you could find a local PGA Professional and pay $50-$100 for a clubfitting session which also might cost more on the back end (unless you take this info to a retail store and they make the alterations if you buy the clubs from them).

You should be fitted for shat length/flex and lie. Those are the three biggest things. Most places are going to take a metal yardstick looking device and hang in to the floor to determine club-length, will have you hit off of a lie board to determine the proper lie and will look at swing speed to determine shaft flex. While these are not the best proper methods they certainly are better than nothing. You could try to get in well with the club makers at these places as they tend to know more than the random salesperson and will be the ones working on your sticks. Hell, offer them $20 under the table to spend 15 minutes with you fitting their sticks and then tip them after they finish adjusting your clubs.

All of that is nowhere near as good as visiting someone who knows how the golf swing affects the fitting process.

[UCBananaboy]

Originally Posted by Spenda

yea cuz $150 that could save a player 1-3 strokes a round for the rest of the time they use their clubs is "quite expensive"

who are you, are you just some golfer who reads internet forums, do you just read your monthly golf digest, are you an instructor?

fitting is optimal, necessary, and is not expensive at all compared to what ppl are paying for a set of clubs.

I never said that fitting wasn't important.

I'm just saying that the original poster said he has very "erratic" play, so getting fitted is likely going to not have as much benefit for him versus getting a lesson or something to develop a more consistent strike of the ball.

Given that he hits the ball more regularly - then yes I agree that fitting should be the next progressive step towards game improvement.

[ZBTHorton]

Originally Posted by UCBananaboy

I never said that fitting wasn't important.

I'm just saying that the original poster said he has very "erratic" play, so getting fitted is likely going to not have as much benefit for him versus getting a lesson or something to develop a more consistent strike of the ball.

Given that he hits the ball more regularly - then yes I agree that fitting should be the next progressive step towards game improvement.

Maybe he's erratic because he doesn't have the right clubs.

[Spenda]

Originally Posted by UCBananaboy

I never said that fitting wasn't important

Originally Posted by UCBananaboy

Getting fitted isn't that important imo. I think if you get down to near single-digit handicap -- then it should be more of a concern.

[MiloDanglers]

I don't really have a swing, set up, or anything like that. I have talked to a couple guys who golfed in college that I have played with before and they said that the stiff shaft is probably correct for me.

I honestly don't think getting fitted would be beneficial for me right now because there is no consistency as to how I address the ball. I just kind of get up there and hit it. I mean I take my time and try to line everything up but my stance, grip, and swing all vary by the week. Heck I went to the driving range last week and doubt I had the same swing, grip, and position relative to the ball twice. Nothing looked great so I tried switching everything up hoping I would find one that works. I would imagine there is a slim chance that the way I would address and hit the ball with the club fitter would be the same way I would do it if I golfed again a week later.

I do understand how getting it fitted would be important and maybe that is something I will try when I actually try to get some consistency in my swing. This may all sound stupid but I do appreciate all the help.

[Spenda]

you should stop assuming you know what's best for you seeing how you're seemingly new to the game. Also, unless your friends have more education on the subject besides what they picked up watching the 19th hole on the Golf Channel you might want to ask someone who teaches/fits/plays for a living.

[westhoff]

Originally Posted by ZBTHorton

I have no idea what your disagreeing with. I don't care whether he is a good ball striker who can't putt/chip, or whether he is a below average ball striker who is good around the greens, there is absolutely no disadvantage to getting custom fit for your clubs.

94 isn't even that bad of a score, that's like basically bogey golf. I know tons of bogey golfers who hit the ball fairly well but just don't know how to score. A huge % of them would be helped by a basic club fitting. It's not like it's expensive. He can get a pretty basic fitting for free at most golf shops. I'm not saying he should ship 500$ to a custom club fitter, I'm saying he needs to make sure he's got the right shaft in his clubs, make sure his lie angles are correct, and make sure his clubs are the right length.

Although, it should be said at this point, that with a driver/3 wood, this stuff should really be done at time of sale.

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[ZBTHorton]

Originally Posted by MiloDanglers

I don't really have a swing, set up, or anything like that. I have talked to a couple guys who golfed in college that I have played with before and they said that the stiff shaft is probably correct for me.

I honestly don't think getting fitted would be beneficial for me right now because there is no consistency as to how I address the ball. I just kind of get up there and hit it. I mean I take my time and try to line everything up but my stance, grip, and swing all vary by the week. Heck I went to the driving range last week and doubt I had the same swing, grip, and position relative to the ball twice. Nothing looked great so I tried switching everything up hoping I would find one that works. I would imagine there is a slim chance that the way I would address and hit the ball with the club fitter would be the same way I would do it if I golfed again a week later.

I do understand how getting it fitted would be important and maybe that is something I will try when I actually try to get some consistency in my swing. This may all sound stupid but I do appreciate all the help.

Did you mean you shoot 94 per 9? Because there is absolutely no ****ing way you play bogey golf if you don't even know how to line up to the ball.

[bonds]

I eagerly await hate-filled responses to this article.

[Ineedaride2]

Originally Posted by bonds

I eagerly await hate-filled responses to this article.

I only know one thing for sure, after reading that article:

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