MISC/RANDOM/BS Golf Chatter Thread

[Tony Lepatata]

Originally Posted by Palo

Why would you do that?

the white 9.5s are going for 800-900 on ebay.

limited edition baby.

[BeerMoney]

Originally Posted by JTrout

True, but I'm talking about the players, and there are many, that hit a 7-iron 185 yds. once out of 10 times, but will hit 7-iron when they're 178 uphill on a cool day.
They have zero chance of ever having the right club, and are very often 2 clubs short of what they need.


edit to add that most players with a 12 or higher handicap, and many with lower handicap, would shoot lower scores if they always took the yardage to the back fringe and used the club they think would get them there.

I realize we're talking about something different, but doesn't it usually make sense to play for the front of the green?

[JTrout]

Originally Posted by BeerMoney

I realize we're talking about something different, but doesn't it usually make sense to play for the front of the green?

If you can get it there!

[CheckRaise]

Originally Posted by JTrout

True, but I'm talking about the players, and there are many, that hit a 7-iron 185 yds. once out of 10 times, but will hit 7-iron when they're 178 uphill on a cool day.
They have zero chance of ever having the right club, and are very often 2 clubs short of what they need.


edit to add that most players with a 12 or higher handicap, and many with lower handicap, would shoot lower scores if they always took the yardage to the back fringe and used the club they think would get them there.

i have the opposite problem, hit way too many approaches long...mid way through a round if i've hit a few approaches long i'll tell myself to take one club less than my brain tells me but even that doesn't help much.

[Palo]

So I got on a launch monitor and my driver backspin is about 2k rpms more than ideal according to the chart based on swing speed. This seems way too extreme to fix by changing shafts or equipment as I was using equipment that should at least be somewhat reasonable and the balls used were ProV1x's. The problem seems clear that I'm hitting the ball with a rather severely descending blow. Perhaps this also explains why I've generally been extremely good hitting driver off the deck in fairways.

I saw one web page mention some tips to lower driver backspin were to tee the ball higher and don't sole the club but hover it before beginning the swing. Anything else to do?

[ClubChamp04]

You want to hit the ball on the upper part of the face. It should launch high and flatline when done correctly. Fix your swing though if you are descending into it.

[ship---this]

Originally Posted by ClubChamp04

You want to hit the ball on the upper part of the face. It should launch high and flatline when done correctly. Fix your swing though if you are descending into it.

Just hitting it high on the face doesn't ensure you will have the right spin rates. You should be trying to hit the ball on the sweet spot and use technology to ensure the set up is right for your action. That is the best way to get consistent spin rates and flight. Hitting it high on the face for the knuckler creates a lot of variance in trajectory. I know what you are saying and agree it would probably be better than what he is doing, but it's not the absolute best way to hit it.

[ClubChamp04]

Agreed. I was just offering a way to knock some spin off right now, but that isn't the correct fix. I would not want to try hitting knucklers all day just to insure some type of proper launch and spin. Like you said, lot of variance in trajectory and balls can get away from you(well, me) very fast. Very erratic shot but a thing of beauty when hit perfectly.

Get a head/shaft combo that fits the bill when hit solid, and have the knuckler ready to roll for certain situations.

[manbearpig]

Spin is caused by the difference in angle of attack and vertical face angle. Period. The bigger that gap, the more spin. So someone who hits down on it while flipping it is going to spin the ever living crap out of it, because that gap is going to be huge. Like less say they are hitting down on it 3 degrees but are exposing 12 degrees of loft because they flip it, thats a 15 degree difference. Guys who hit low spin bombs hit within a degree of level AoA but also still have their hands in front of the ball meaning the face has less loft. So lets say 1 up AoA and 8 degrees of loft, difference is only 7.

Basically, guys with good golf swings, so not too steep and keep their hands in front of the ball hit it with low spin.

[CCx]

the Annika Invitational is here at reunion while i'm down here - there's nothing better than hitting at the range surrounded by teenage girls (giggity) who can destroy the ball straighter and farther than i could ever hope to on a regular basis

reunion resort grande estate villas are sick tho, courses are great and the disney course i played this morning (palm) was cool - playing the magnolia tomorrow then jetting back home to epic cold and wind

[ship---this]

MBPig....I really don't own tis answer.....isn't there a gear effect of some sort? It isn't just a straight equation I think. Or is it "me thinks".

[BeerMoney]

pm me for the answer to golf.

[ReidLockhart]

Originally Posted by BeerMoney

pm me for the answer to golf.

Make sure you bring enough for the whole class!

[POKEROMGLOL]

I like how I did that "pick to the back fringe" thing in my one tournament of the year and I hit the ball 45 yards over the green.

Then the next hole, I just go with the yardage to the flag, and it comes up 2 clubs short. I do stuff like that pretty much 100% of holes.

[manbearpig]

Originally Posted by ship---this

MBPig....I really don't own tis answer.....isn't there a gear effect of some sort? It isn't just a straight equation I think. Or is it "me thinks".

Not sure I understand your question (and to be honest, I am not an expert in this by any means, I just know enough to be dangerous). Hitting it higher on the face normally exposes more loft, and lower of the face less loft. That will affect spin rates.