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04-19-2009 , 08:02 PM
Figured since every other forum has these...this one deserves one too.

Random golf chatter
Should I buy this? / is this used X a good deal?
Stupid/dumb questions that don't deserve their own thread.
Random observations etc etc
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04-19-2009 , 08:27 PM
I'll start. I just bought the Nike deal at Dicks. I got a Nike Sumo Squared 5900 driver and 4 wood for $200. I don't play often but plan on golfing once a week this year. I usually golf only a couple times a year and usually shoot around a 94 with very erratic play.

What I am wondering is how important it is to have these clubs fitted. I just went into the store and bought them. Does it cost more? Do I have to go to some special place to do this or should Dick's just do it for me?

Thanks for any help.
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04-19-2009 , 10:48 PM
Getting fitted isn't that important imo. I think if you get down to near single-digit handicap -- then it should be more of a concern. At shooting 94, you likely have trouble making consistent solid contact anyways, so getting fitted is the least of your concerns (no offense). Only thing that you may want to get fitted for is if you are extremely tall and may need extended shafts and such... otherwise, I wouldn't worry about it.

$200 is a great deal for the clubs tho. I think you'll enjoy what you got and really see an increase in length and such.
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04-19-2009 , 10:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXpfs...eature=related

Funny! This guy is like the most unknown tour pro ever.
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04-20-2009 , 02:49 AM
so I am getting back into golf.
I played a little when i was in 6th-8th grade.
now im 22. 6ft, 165-173lbs.

I dont have alot of money b/c NL200 and PLO200 are hard.
I'm in no hurry to buy a bunch of stuff.

The other day I hit my bros little driver (he is 12). That was fun, I was slugging them 200yds. I felt I had good distance, but poor control.

So naturally I wanna buy a used callaway ft-i.

http://callawaygolfpreowned.com/driv...vers-ft-i.aspx

I really like the square look of many drivers (nike not so much). I also feel I would swing the club w/ more confidence w/ square. Though, I have no proof. just a hunch.
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04-20-2009 , 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by UCBananaboy
Getting fitted isn't that important imo. I think if you get down to near single-digit handicap -- then it should be more of a concern. At shooting 94, you likely have trouble making consistent solid contact anyways, so getting fitted is the least of your concerns (no offense). Only thing that you may want to get fitted for is if you are extremely tall and may need extended shafts and such... otherwise, I wouldn't worry about it.

$200 is a great deal for the clubs tho. I think you'll enjoy what you got and really see an increase in length and such.
Eh, pretty much disagree with this entire post. We have no idea what his swing is like, so telling him that getting custom fit isn't important is pretty meh. He didn't even tell us what shaft he has in the clubs, so we have no idea whether these clubs are even remotely close to what he needs.

I personally think everyone should at least know the basics of their swing(swing speed, lie angle adjustments, etc) before they go buy clubs. Swinging the wrong shaft, or non adjusted irons can really hurt your game and keep you from improving. Shooting 94 is the exact time when I think you should be getting involved in custom fitting, because in most cases you've started striking the ball pretty well and can really notice a difference.
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04-20-2009 , 05:13 AM
Just bought a Callaway FT-5 driver.
Any experience with it here?
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04-20-2009 , 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by UCBananaboy
Getting fitted isn't that important imo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3y3QoFnqZc

also, thx for starting this thread, hopefully this will weed out some crappier threads that didn't need to be started.
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04-20-2009 , 07:32 AM
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Just bought a Callaway FT-5 driver.
Any experience with it here?
solid stick, and I dislike Callaway clubs in general
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04-20-2009 , 05:52 PM
I got the Diamana S-65 shaft with a 9.5 degree head. I swing very hard. I have no clue what the speed is but I am a fairly strong and athletic guy and I definitely put a lot in my swing. I typically have a slight fade but a few years ago I had a slight draw. lol.

I saved the receipt and would think about getting a more flexible shaft but I swing so hard I don't know if it is necessary. I don't understand why shaft length is important because can't I just scoot up or back if I need to? That maybe a really stupid comment but I really know nothing about golf except put the ball in the hole.
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04-20-2009 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MiloDanglers
I got the Diamana S-65 shaft with a 9.5 degree head. I swing very hard. I have no clue what the speed is but I am a fairly strong and athletic guy and I definitely put a lot in my swing. I typically have a slight fade but a few years ago I had a slight draw. lol.

I saved the receipt and would think about getting a more flexible shaft but I swing so hard I don't know if it is necessary. I don't understand why shaft length is important because can't I just scoot up or back if I need to? That maybe a really stupid comment but I really know nothing about golf except put the ball in the hole.
Go to golfsmith or PGA superstore or edwin watts, or whatever you have where you live. Have them tell you your swing speed, and ask them if the shaft you have is a good fit. It's not a custom fitting, but it's better than just guessing.

The reason you can't just scoot back, is because in order to hit a good golf shot you've got to approach it from a certain angle.
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04-20-2009 , 06:48 PM
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Eh, pretty much disagree with this entire post. We have no idea what his swing is like, so telling him that getting custom fit isn't important is pretty meh. He didn't even tell us what shaft he has in the clubs, so we have no idea whether these clubs are even remotely close to what he needs.

I personally think everyone should at least know the basics of their swing(swing speed, lie angle adjustments, etc) before they go buy clubs. Swinging the wrong shaft, or non adjusted irons can really hurt your game and keep you from improving. Shooting 94 is the exact time when I think you should be getting involved in custom fitting, because in most cases you've started striking the ball pretty well and can really notice a difference.
I disagree, I have seen a lot of people shoot 94 who really aren't that great ballstrikers. Moreso than good ball strikers who just piss away shots around the green - hence why I said getting fitted isn't that essential at this stage.

I agree though, lots of stats regarding his game are key to making an appropriate call though.

I guess I am just lucky to have never needed adjusted clubs
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04-20-2009 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamming Monkey
Just bought a Callaway FT-5 driver.
Any experience with it here?
I got one last year and it's my current gamer. I've been very pleased with it - I definitely have picked up yardage (thanks to a much better shaft fit) and have a lot of confidence on the tee. I'm able to work the ball either way if necessary.

First Callaway club I've ever owned. You probably paid a lot less than I did, too.
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04-20-2009 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Spenda
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3y3QoFnqZc

also, thx for starting this thread, hopefully this will weed out some crappier threads that didn't need to be started.
you ona downswing? seem bitter lately!

the ****ty threads (including mine) are my fav part of this forum.
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04-20-2009 , 09:28 PM
****ty posts don't need to be threads
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04-21-2009 , 02:12 AM
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I disagree, I have seen a lot of people shoot 94 who really aren't that great ballstrikers. Moreso than good ball strikers who just piss away shots around the green - hence why I said getting fitted isn't that essential at this stage.

I agree though, lots of stats regarding his game are key to making an appropriate call though.

I guess I am just lucky to have never needed adjusted clubs
I have no idea what your disagreeing with. I don't care whether he is a good ball striker who can't putt/chip, or whether he is a below average ball striker who is good around the greens, there is absolutely no disadvantage to getting custom fit for your clubs.

94 isn't even that bad of a score, that's like basically bogey golf. I know tons of bogey golfers who hit the ball fairly well but just don't know how to score. A huge % of them would be helped by a basic club fitting. It's not like it's expensive. He can get a pretty basic fitting for free at most golf shops. I'm not saying he should ship 500$ to a custom club fitter, I'm saying he needs to make sure he's got the right shaft in his clubs, make sure his lie angles are correct, and make sure his clubs are the right length.

Although, it should be said at this point, that with a driver/3 wood, this stuff should really be done at time of sale.

Last edited by ZBTHorton; 04-21-2009 at 02:22 AM.
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04-21-2009 , 10:59 AM
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I have no idea what your disagreeing with. I don't care whether he is a good ball striker who can't putt/chip, or whether he is a below average ball striker who is good around the greens, there is absolutely no disadvantage to getting custom fit for your clubs.

94 isn't even that bad of a score, that's like basically bogey golf. I know tons of bogey golfers who hit the ball fairly well but just don't know how to score. A huge % of them would be helped by a basic club fitting. It's not like it's expensive. He can get a pretty basic fitting for free at most golf shops. I'm not saying he should ship 500$ to a custom club fitter, I'm saying he needs to make sure he's got the right shaft in his clubs, make sure his lie angles are correct, and make sure his clubs are the right length.

Although, it should be said at this point, that with a driver/3 wood, this stuff should really be done at time of sale.
Fitting is quite expensive, if you think of all the alterations that will be needed. It is likely that he isn't a standard lie and that his shafts aren't optimal for his skills -- therefore he will have to get 13 of his clubs bent and reshafted, at a pretty hefty cost. That money would be better spent on a lesson tbh.

The only real fitting that would be very beneficial is if this OP is like 6'4" and needs lengthened clubs. Otherwise the lie angle and shaft will have fairly minimal results. He might hit it a few yards shorter or hit it with a bit more left/right tail -- again though, fitting isn't entirely free.
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04-21-2009 , 01:08 PM
yea cuz $150 that could save a player 1-3 strokes a round for the rest of the time they use their clubs is "quite expensive"

who are you, are you just some golfer who reads internet forums, do you just read your monthly golf digest, are you an instructor?

fitting is optimal, necessary, and is not expensive at all compared to what ppl are paying for a set of clubs.
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04-21-2009 , 01:41 PM
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****ty posts don't need to be threads
did tuq die and make Spenda mod?
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04-21-2009 , 01:42 PM
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yea cuz $150 that could save a player 1-3 strokes a round for the rest of the time they use their clubs is "quite expensive"

who are you, are you just some golfer who reads internet forums, do you just read your monthly golf digest, are you an instructor?

fitting is optimal, necessary, and is not expensive at all compared to what ppl are paying for a set of clubs.
interesting. where would you recommend getting fitted? at golfsmith or would a regular smalling store/pro-shop do? what kind of equipment do i need to ask them about before agreeing to get fitted?
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04-21-2009 , 02:24 PM
well if you're buying new clubs at a major golf retailer the fitting "*should** be free! In some cases the clubs might have to be special ordered (at no added cost) and some upgrades (i.e. better grips/shafts) can cost more.

If you go this route you will have to settle with being fitted by the salesperson at one of these stores, or you could find a local PGA Professional and pay $50-$100 for a clubfitting session which also might cost more on the back end (unless you take this info to a retail store and they make the alterations if you buy the clubs from them).

You should be fitted for shat length/flex and lie. Those are the three biggest things. Most places are going to take a metal yardstick looking device and hang in to the floor to determine club-length, will have you hit off of a lie board to determine the proper lie and will look at swing speed to determine shaft flex. While these are not the best proper methods they certainly are better than nothing. You could try to get in well with the club makers at these places as they tend to know more than the random salesperson and will be the ones working on your sticks. Hell, offer them $20 under the table to spend 15 minutes with you fitting their sticks and then tip them after they finish adjusting your clubs.

All of that is nowhere near as good as visiting someone who knows how the golf swing affects the fitting process.
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04-21-2009 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Spenda
yea cuz $150 that could save a player 1-3 strokes a round for the rest of the time they use their clubs is "quite expensive"

who are you, are you just some golfer who reads internet forums, do you just read your monthly golf digest, are you an instructor?

fitting is optimal, necessary, and is not expensive at all compared to what ppl are paying for a set of clubs.
I never said that fitting wasn't important.

I'm just saying that the original poster said he has very "erratic" play, so getting fitted is likely going to not have as much benefit for him versus getting a lesson or something to develop a more consistent strike of the ball.

Given that he hits the ball more regularly - then yes I agree that fitting should be the next progressive step towards game improvement.
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04-21-2009 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by UCBananaboy
I never said that fitting wasn't important.

I'm just saying that the original poster said he has very "erratic" play, so getting fitted is likely going to not have as much benefit for him versus getting a lesson or something to develop a more consistent strike of the ball.

Given that he hits the ball more regularly - then yes I agree that fitting should be the next progressive step towards game improvement.
Maybe he's erratic because he doesn't have the right clubs.
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04-21-2009 , 03:44 PM
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I never said that fitting wasn't important
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Getting fitted isn't that important imo. I think if you get down to near single-digit handicap -- then it should be more of a concern.
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04-21-2009 , 08:24 PM
I don't really have a swing, set up, or anything like that. I have talked to a couple guys who golfed in college that I have played with before and they said that the stiff shaft is probably correct for me.

I honestly don't think getting fitted would be beneficial for me right now because there is no consistency as to how I address the ball. I just kind of get up there and hit it. I mean I take my time and try to line everything up but my stance, grip, and swing all vary by the week. Heck I went to the driving range last week and doubt I had the same swing, grip, and position relative to the ball twice. Nothing looked great so I tried switching everything up hoping I would find one that works. I would imagine there is a slim chance that the way I would address and hit the ball with the club fitter would be the same way I would do it if I golfed again a week later.

I do understand how getting it fitted would be important and maybe that is something I will try when I actually try to get some consistency in my swing. This may all sound stupid but I do appreciate all the help.
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