Thanks for the non cherry coated input, that is what I need. Will check those videos out as well.

As for today I am quite mad at myself for forgetting my shag bag full of balls, was going to have a short game afternoon but got to the course and saw I had like 4 golf balls in my bag so I just played one ball. oops
I am pretty sure I shot 78 but left scorecard in car and too lazy to get it right now. Playing the par 5's in -2 is only thing that let me salvage a sub 80 round. Going to take 2 days off and work on my fantasy football stuff then come up with a practice plan for next week.

Thanks again for the videos. I found this one very helpful as I had been so focused on my left wrist trying to maintain the angle that I didn't even realize my right wrist is what is causing the majority of my casting issue. Now just need a few thousand swings that are done correctly and I might be on to something.

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No problem. The toughest part is stopping casting/early release is that there are two competing things going on.

You want to stop the right hand from dumping the club too early, but if you physically try and do it by "holding" the angle longer, then you can get tension in your arms/hands/ etc and then you actually end up reducing club head speed.

It takes lots of work trying to keep the lag but not create tension. I wish some of the better golfers would chime in but I think this might be the toughest think to address in golf. The long-armed nibble and flexible guys seem to do this better than short-armed stocky guys.

Lots of golf instruction talks about a good release "just happening" as a result of all the other good fundamentals being in place.

Not in my world....lol

Good luck on your journey!

Thanks, this has brought back my love of playing golf. There hasn't been a single time since starting this where I have thought "man I really wish I didn't go golfing today."

Not to derail the thread, but since the subject of casting is being discussed.

Would casting cause a high block? Specifically with the longer clubs.

casting way early wont per say but flipping early will make it go higher and blocking comes from inside out path with clubface square to path pointing way right. That might be the same as casting though since I always get terms messed up

Got to thinking more about casting. If you want to know if casting is a big problem for you, try hitting shots from a fairway bunker (130 - 170 from green). Most casters suck at this shot.

My course doesn't even have a fairway bunker, lol. Today was better though, got a video but it was from dtl and not super clear but was able to zoom in when shaft was parallel to the ground and my hands where a lot farther forward than the other one.

Afterwards spent a bunch of time on the green. Couldn't remember the practice routine that was posted here so I did my own little thing. 20 in a row from 4 feet with tees down as a gate so I would know if the putter released weird. Then did 20 in a row to a 3 foot circle from 40 feet. Last thing I put 8 balls around the hole in circle 3 feet away and another 8 around at 5 feet and would start over if I missed one. That all took way longer than I thought.

Can't really see a ton from the video but I felt decent today with what I felt like was good tempo. Totally screwed up actually getting right behind the ball with the camera though

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Shot 81, 74, 40 the last 2 days. Also been spending time on 60 yards in, 20 in a row from 3 feet, 20 in a row from 5 and 20 within 3ft on 30 foot lag putts ect. Also been working on staying a little more behind the ball on drives then making a solid golf from turn/swing/using the ground for extra leverage which has helped get ball at a better launch angle and a few more yards. I have also been making a lot of right handed only swings since that was the arm that was making me dump my angles too early.
Finally got above 50% GIR and 60% FIR for my last 20 rounds which was one of my set goals I had 6 weeks ago. Also have only had 3 rounds out of those 20 where my SGP was -1.00 or worse. Biggest struggle this week has been drawing fairway woods off the deck, totally inconsistent and not sure whether it is going to go straight or 30 yards left, especially with the 3 wood. Mostly I have just went ahead and used a 5W for those 250 yard shots and just dealt with being 20 yards short instead of pin high and 30 yards left.

This week I am going to work on 65-105 yard shot. Work on getting a solid 85% baby fade swing that I can use to take the entire left side miss out of play. Work on drawing woods off the deck. Continue to do putting and chipping practice

Haven't updated this in a while. Pretty sure handicap just under 2 at the moment as the golf season is over in NE Ohio in a week and a half. Haven't decided if I want to work hard in the winter at the range and work on changing my issues or just using an impact bag every day and range once a week so I can get my game back to the level it is now in a few weeks from when courses open back up.

Here are 2 swings face on. Finally remembered to video. Somewhat happy where my swing but I am sure I have a ton of flaws I am not seeing. Only thing that stands out is my head swaying too far back maybe.

7 iron face on regular speed and slow speed
Had about 171 pin, which was back left. Normally just a knock down 6 but was on wrong side of fairway so if I pulled the 6 would hit a tree and come up 35 yards short while 7 clears it. Trying to hit it a touch higher as well. Was slightly thin which helped since I only carried it about 165 and released 5 feet leaving me 12 feet for birdie which I made.





Stock 8 iron, was trying to carry 150 into slight breeze. Carried 148 and spun back 2 feet.

Great read. I found having a purpose to each practice session or practice round is a big help in improving. Practicing to practice isn't going to do much. Congrats

Here is a 2 month before and after with my battle against casting. Better but probably not all the way there. Have picked up 1 full club length with out swing harder though.


still don't have an hd cam so that is the best I could do, hard to be exact due to blur but I tried to match the frames up frame by frame

It really looks like you're flipping at impact (i.e. your right wrist is straight or even bowed at impact). Either I'm wrong, or you must have some great hand-eye coordination / timing to be near a scratch. Or a really good short game I suppose.

Got rid of most of the flip I thought compared to a few months ago. I used to have great hand eye as a kid and it is slowly coming back. Decent short game and probably good compared to an average and I putt well. Worried about the flipping now though since I thought I got rid of most of it. If your talking about the picture above top half is 2 months plus old.

What is the rating/slope of the course you play. I recall you saying it had no bunkers???

70.8/123 blue usually around 6600 yards
70.3/119 white usually around 6100 yards

They used to have a longer set of tees but no longer maintain them and all the trees overgrown make it almost impossible to try to play them even if you wanted to.

I play the blues 95% of the time but the course plays the same minus the par 5s from any tee, just less drivers from the whites.

There are a few bunkers but the majority have been made into grass a long time ago. Almost every hole has mounding and grass bunkers so it plays similar to bunkers. I would still consider the course fairly easy though, most of the water and OB takes a pretty bad shot to find.

how'd. you fix the cast?

It was mostly by a certain feeling. The cast came naturally because I used to bowl a lot so I would be trying to use just my muscles to throw the club at the ball. The new thought was pretending that you are pushing a kid in the park on a swing. Every time they pass you push them harder and they go higher so I just tried to make my club the swing and me the person pushing instead of forcing it I used gravity first before I started my release. That way the timing of my release didn't need to change just the timing of when to start it.

I have no idea if that makes any sense since I probably didn't explain it well.

My strokes gained putting is finally in the positive per round since I have been keeping track the last 40 or 50 rounds. (+0.105 per round)

Not the same as having those numbers on PGA greens but I am still pleased as it is one of the best parts of my game and a huge reason how I manage to shoot the scores I do.

Season now over in NE Ohio. Thought I would show my improvement using some stats.

Before this year
Scoring 87.1 27 rounds
FIR 40%
GIR 29%
putts per hole 1.84
scrambling - 31.1%
birdies 4.1%
pars - 35%

2015 total year
2015 total
Scoring - 78.7 112 rounds
FIR- 55%
GIR- 47%
putts - 1.74
scrambling - 46.4%
birdies - 9.6%
pars - 51.9%

First part of 2015
First 35 rounds
Scoring - 83.3
FIR - 50.4%
GIR - 34.4%
putts- 1.80
scrambling - 35.4%
birdies 4.9%
pars - 42.5%

Middle part 2015
Next 35
Scoring- 77.8
FIR - 56.9%
GIR - 47.7%
putts - 1.72
scrambling - 46.6
birdies - 9.5%
pars - 53.8%

most recent
Last 42
Scoring - 75.4
FIR - 57.5%
GIR - 56.8%
scrambling 53.4%
putts - 1.72
birdies - 13.3%
pars - 57.6%


random for last 50 or so
Strokes gained putting.
+0.11 per round

game golf driving stats
around 15 rounds SLDR 10 with R15
SLDR: 261 yards average
61% FIR
typical: 273 yards

R15: 265 yards average
57% FIR
Typical: 275 yards

Those results only took 100+ rounds and around 150 hours practice.

I am just not that naturally skilled so took tons of work.
Zero chance I get that low with only 1 or 2 rounds a week.

Great work!! I've had the same idea in my mind for a couple of years now. Excuses come to easy for me now. Nike needs to bring back the "Just do it" ads for me :/ Pretty jealous truth be told. So course closed then? Between yesterday and Thursday I'd think you could get another 81 holes or so in.

Not closed yet but it is considered off season now so scores aren't allowed to be posted anymore when it comes to GHIN. A few more weeks left till it closes