help me? (videos) - Page 8

DeathDonkey · 03-29-2012, 02:22 AM

A little closer, yes. You have to overexaggerate it just as much as you possibly can, its not there and in no danger of being "too much". As spino1i is alluding to, after you are taking it away better I would next add the swing thought of "hands low and back" in the backswing. You need to feel the left arm stretched across your chest instead of over your shoulder.

nih han · 03-29-2012, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Your Boss

Augie, couple pictures for you. But first, I want to make note of your grip. It really looks to me like you have the grip in the palm of your hand and not the fingers. What are your thoughts on that?

In this one you can see how Fowler c0cks his wrists instead of side bending them. Go back to my previous post explaining how the wrists can move and get a feel for c0cking vs. side bending. If you can't figure this out let me know and I can give you more details. But this is priority number one for you.

What I want to draw attention to in this picture is the gap between your right bicep and chest. See how much tighter Fowler's is? This is one of the reasons your swing looks so long. Lots of ancillary benefits of getting that straightened out. You'll stay more on plane in backswing, your downswing will be less steep, more speed will be generated, etc.

You do the same thing in your follow through as well. Both arms come off your chest, you lose the "connection" you hear people talk about.

you can actually hit balls doing that drill.

A good drill for you will be to take a couple of tees, or towels, or small headcovers, or anything like that and stick them under your armpits. Right armpit is for backswing, left for follow through. You can do both at the same time though. You should be able to hit balls without them falling out. Just concentrate on keeping those pressure points intact. Will you take a video hitting a couple of shots doing that?

a good drill to chk if your properly setting your wrist **** at the top of the back swing is.....

your set up posture looks pretty good so from that position at address, simply lift up your club head (with your wrist only) skyward till its about parallel to the ground. from there simply turn your shoulders 90 degrees and that should be right around the position you want to be at the top with your wrist ****.

you can actually hit balls doing that drill

doublem3up · 03-29-2012, 08:18 AM

Based on couple previous vids and the most recent vid I think you have a wider stance than necessary, you could be losing power from this.

Kyle Mulhesta · 03-29-2012, 08:33 AM

agreed

**augie_** · 03-29-2012, 07:15 PM

very productive day today. was hitting it very pure, had a beautiful mark on my PW right in the sweet spot. and for the first time i really felt like i was hitting it with my hips and legs and not my arms. hit very few bad shots and didn't get as tired!

also from my own rudimentary analysis, i think i'm taking it back above plane now! take that, death donkey!

first vid is PW, second vid is 6 iron, third vid is some 50 yard LW shots. was fading the ball a bit again today. must be coming over the top slightly?

now that i think i have the takeaway under control, tomorrow gonna focus on keeping my backswing shorter and my arms down even more. i think that will cure the remains of my head-wobble. rotation getting a little better but still rough on account of lack of flexibility.

i've figured out that i can only work on one thing at a time on the range, if i try to think about too many things it just doesn't work.

okay swing 1.13.2

okay swing 1.13

okay swing 1.13.3

bonus game: i chunked one of my PW shots. can you guess which one?

mvoss · 03-29-2012, 08:02 PM

Sorry but imho you still need to work on your takeaway. Your hands are still working away from your body so your arms get steep and the shaft gets flat.

**augie_** · 03-29-2012, 08:24 PM

lol don't be sorry! of course you're right, didn't mean to sound like i have any aspect of the swing down pat

Brock Landers · 03-29-2012, 08:29 PM

HUGE improvment in the takeaway Augie! I know how hard it is to make those adjustments, well done. One thing that you might want to keep in mind: if you're anything like me you will want to revert back to the old inside takeaway. I suggest regularly taking video to keep it in check.

DeathDonkey · 03-30-2012, 12:53 AM

Great job, its not above plane, but its getting closer. The Rickie Fowler picture still shows the biggest difference, he gets his hands inside and club head outside halfway back, your club head still sneaks inside (from the back view it goes to the left of your shoulder) very quickly. It is definitely still caused by the way you bend your wrists in the takeaway. I like that drill idea 'nih han' suggested.

By my count it was the 4th PW swing that was fat? You can hear it.

spino1i · 03-30-2012, 03:26 AM

meh Rickie Fowler's takeaway is not something you want to be emulating, as its not parcticularly good. He doesnt rotate his forearms right. But yeh you definitely want something close to his position at the top of the swing.

Also in a good swing, the club c0cks itself, and if the club is cocking in an odd direction its almost certainly related to the way your gripping the club. If you try to actively hinge the club, you had better be very precise or you will be hinging it off plane a lot. Its a lot easier if your takeaway is such that club is forced to go back exactly one direction and set exactly one way everytime.

Your Boss · 03-30-2012, 07:24 AM

Augie, definitely see some improvement, but still have the same issues. Hands work out away from your body and you side bend the wrists to get the club inside.

I really think you need to feel like your wrists don't side bend at all in your takeaway. See the angles of the green lines? Those should be almost straight at that point.

I'm still not convinced some of this isn't grip related. For example, just in your house grip one fully in your palm and then again fully in your fingers. Feel the difference in how the club moves. It's much easier to hinge (c0ck) when in your fingers.

Your Boss · 03-30-2012, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by spino1i

meh Rickie Fowler's takeaway is not something you want to be emulating, as its not parcticularly good. He doesnt rotate his forearms right. But yeh you definitely want something close to his position at the top of the swing.

FWIW it's not about getting Augie to exactly emulate that position. The exaggerated nature of his takeaway is why I chose him, to give OP a very distinct and clear picture of the direction he needed to go.

chilin_dude · 03-30-2012, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by augie_

okay swing 1.13.3

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KenoVictoryLap · 03-30-2012, 01:11 PM

That is awesome.

LFC · 03-30-2012, 01:30 PM

sweeet

btw I would never say you're too close to the ball...
if so I think that I'm way to close to the ball