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07-07-2014 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Suit
I do this first. If they don't let you through and there is at least one hole between them and the group in front of them you can call up the pro shop and have them send the ranger out if they have one. If not you can either skip ahead like someone suggested or put up with the slow pace.


If you think Eddy is joking, he's not. Or at least I'm not joking when I say to do this. If that doesn't work or you don't like the idea, start picking up their balls and putting them in your pocket. If they want them back I say invite them to try and get them back. Of course I play with a group that is rather large in physical size and always ready to go. This actually happened one time and needless to say they stopped hitting into us. I bring this up almost everytime I see those guys, "you want your ball back? It's right here in my pocket, come get it." The look on that polo wearing country club prep was priceless.

Either way, don't be afraid to confront douches.
A group that's always ready to go? Are you for real lol this is a golf course not a saturday night on the town. IDK what kind of course you play but the members clubs I know you'd be insta banned for any of that.

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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
When is it appropriate to tee off on a short par 4?

If the green is drivable, but not easily reachable do you hit and yell fore or wait for the green to clear? I have put 3 balls in front bunkers or right near the front edge on par 4s this year and every single time been confronted despite yelling "fore" quite loudly multiple times. I waited for the pin to be pulled in each of these instances. I feel like this is a no win situation though as sitting on the tee box while another group collects behind me on a par 4 isn't a great solution either. Most times I am also with guys who aren't great golfers and may not hit the green in 2. These holes are often ones where the "yardage" is a lot higher than it plays if you cut a corner.
If you can drive the green you need to wait until it's clear, just last week I played with the junior captain on a 310 yd par 4 and he was hit on the hand whilst standing on the green, hand is broken badly and won't play for 3months minimum, I had to take him to hospital right away so didn't get to confront the guys.

OP- as others have said just ask to play through or try and get a new t time. If you and the group you're with are shooting around the 100 mark I doubt they'll be happy with letting you through as a few of you will be prone to searching in the trees yourself As for the group behind hitting balls down you really need to confront them ASAP but none of this "come and get it off me" nonsense. Just tell you can't go any faster because of the group in front etc If they keep firing then go ahead and get some wedge practice in and fire the ball into the trees.
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07-07-2014 , 11:41 PM
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It does boggle the mind how resistant people can be towards letting a group play through when feasible/QUOTE]

Appears people don't really understand etiquette, When the course is stacked up I adjust. But when some slow ass four-ball has 1-2 holes open in front of them and gets chappy when my group asks to play through I just don't get it. It's too late to "pick up the pace". We are on the tee waiting for you while you are on the tee. Just get out of the way.
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07-08-2014 , 12:12 AM
This happened to me on Sunday. I find this is way more common and a bigger problem then slow groups.

Teed off as a group of 4, at 9:30 Sunday, at the public course I am a member of. There was a group of four behind us and a group of two behind them. A single, in a cart putts out the 4th hole as quickly as he can and joins us on the 5th tee box. I tell him there are several groups of 4 in front of us and we are waiting on every tee box. He still pressures us to let him through. We let him through and he hits his second shot into the group in front of us, while they are on the green. He proceeds to join them on the 6th tee box.

That I could see, this guy ended up passing 5 groups on the front 9. The course was moving at a normal pace for Sunday morning. What is the etiquette for dealing with people that expect to play speed golf? He was trashing the pace of everyone. We all ended up waiting for him to play through.
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07-08-2014 , 12:45 AM
^guy obv doesn't have any friends that wanna golf with him. I tell him to shove it or drive ahead if there's a course stacked of 4 somes ahead of my group
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07-08-2014 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by powder_8s
This happened to me on Sunday. I find this is way more common and a bigger problem then slow groups.

Teed off as a group of 4, at 9:30 Sunday, at the public course I am a member of. There was a group of four behind us and a group of two behind them. A single, in a cart putts out the 4th hole as quickly as he can and joins us on the 5th tee box. I tell him there are several groups of 4 in front of us and we are waiting on every tee box. He still pressures us to let him through. We let him through and he hits his second shot into the group in front of us, while they are on the green. He proceeds to join them on the 6th tee box.

That I could see, this guy ended up passing 5 groups on the front 9. The course was moving at a normal pace for Sunday morning. What is the etiquette for dealing with people that expect to play speed golf? He was trashing the pace of everyone. We all ended up waiting for him to play through.
Shop/starter should never send a single out on a crowded weekend morning for this very reason. Sounds like nobody was willing to stand up for what's right on the golf course. Sometimes you've just gotta say "I'm sorry, but there's nowhere to go" and stand your ground. It's not your fault that the situation is the way it is.

BO
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07-08-2014 , 12:02 PM
Either way it's pretty hilarious that the guy just kept charging right on through foursomes despite an apparently full course, and also that groups kept letting him through.
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07-08-2014 , 09:12 PM
Yeah really, I can't imagine why the single wouldn't just join the twosome.

Two weeks ago I was in a foursome and had a single coming up behind us. I tell my buddies "why don't we tee off while he's putting out" and then let him play through when he gets up here. Of course he gets up to the tee, yanks one 20 yards into the left rough then drives up and plays my ball from the middle of the fairway. Sometimes people's stupidity is so surreal you have to just shake your head and go on about your business.

But back to the thing with the carts by the par 3. It's not so much about getting to the clubhouse sooner. It's that I've been chilling in the cart watching the group ahead putt out. When they start walking to the carts I'll wrap up my conversation get out of the cart, check the wind, and start lining up because I expect them to be gone in a minute. If I do that and go through a couple practice swings and they're still there not appearing to do anything at all, I just get out of my rhythm and tilted about what the hell could they be doing for this long, which typically leads to substandard play. I guess I have the same problem in rush hour traffic. Like if everyone's going 5-10 mph on the highway but the car in front of me is leaving a 4 car length gap, I know the added time to my commute is negligible but I just can't fathom what this person is doing and why they don't pull up to the same following distance that almost everyone else is using.

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07-09-2014 , 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by tuq
Either way it's pretty hilarious that the guy just kept charging right on through foursomes despite an apparently full course, and also that groups kept letting him through.
lol if he's able to pull that off...

--meanwhile we're the people trying to be nice/respectful etc.

at the place i was playing today there were 2 groups (of 2) trying to start at the back 9...i felt a lil weird..so i play 10,11,12 pretty fast to be nice--at par mind you...get to 13(par 3...but it's kinda up against 10) and they're basically pin high but like 20ishyds left....so i sit there for like 10mins on the tee waiting for them--just in case//rant..i played 3 holes in the time it took them to GET to their 2nd shot..and they were trying to go before me lol
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07-09-2014 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BadBoyBenny
I guess I have the same problem in rush hour traffic. Like if everyone's going 5-10 mph on the highway but the car in front of me is leaving a 4 car length gap, I know the added time to my commute is negligible but I just can't fathom what this person is doing and why they don't pull up to the same following distance that almost everyone else is using.
At that speed such a gap doesn't make sense, so the obvious conclusion is that they are 1) female, 2), asian, 3) texting, or 4) all of the above.

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Originally Posted by wet work
lol if he's able to pull that off...

--meanwhile we're the people trying to be nice/respectful etc.

at the place i was playing today there were 2 groups (of 2) trying to start at the back 9...i felt a lil weird..so i play 10,11,12 pretty fast to be nice--at par mind you...get to 13(par 3...but it's kinda up against 10) and they're basically pin high but like 20ishyds left....so i sit there for like 10mins on the tee waiting for them--just in case//rant..i played 3 holes in the time it took them to GET to their 2nd shot..and they were trying to go before me lol
Took me a second to decipher this. You are saying they were still on the 10th hole while you're already on the 13th, and were far enough offline that they were in your way. Wow.

I've mentioned it before, but one of the more immature things I've done on a golf course was firing drives over a foursome that wouldn't let my brother and I through. It was a medium length par-3 that played well downhill. We'd been waiting on them for a few holes and the course was otherwise wide open so I teed up some balls and started hitting them into the lake behind the green. On principle I didn't want to skip a hole just to accommodate their being inconsiderate, and they absolutely knew we had been waiting on them for some time and didn't seem to care. Well I did.

Predictably, this made them irate and once we got down to the green a couple of them yelled at us from a distance, but I'm kind of a big guy and that coupled with them maybe thinking I was a bit crazy due to the driver thing kept us at a reasonable distance and it didn't escalate further. They didn't end up letting us through because they were on the 18th so we just dealt with it for one more hole.
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07-10-2014 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by S.K
How do you deal with having to wait so long when stuck behind a very slow group who won't let you through?
1. Ranger
2. Skip past them (or ask to play through)
3. Look on the back of the scorecard for the pro shop phone number. Call.
"Hi, I'm currently on the 8th tee, and the group in front of us is a hole and a half behind. I had a 7:15 tee time, and it's now 9:30. Could you send someone to help them along? Thanks"

Being pleasant works most of the time.
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07-10-2014 , 08:40 PM
We were in a situation today where the group in front of us were taking wayyy too long. They would hit multiple mulligans, they would all stand beside each golfer as they shot. Then they would have a little pow wow and discuss things in a circle, and even do funny daces every once in awhile. (and this is just through 2.5 holes!)

In short - they had no clue or consideration we were standing at the tee box watching all of this.

3rd hole (par 3) we decide to skip them (and the 3rd hole altogether) - so, as they're all standing in the bunker, I do the polite thing and say, "hey, you guys mind if we just pass through". 3 guys begrudgingly say "yeah whatever", 4th guy goes, "but there's a group right infront of us!"

We skipped them, and never saw anyone infront of us, or behind us the rest of the round.

moral of the story:
Spoiler:
I don't know, but **** them
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07-10-2014 , 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by t3hbandit
A group that's always ready to go? Are you for real lol this is a golf course not a saturday night on the town. IDK what kind of course you play but the members clubs I know you'd be insta banned for any of that.
Hit into us once or twice, ok, maybe you just really got ahold of one a little more than expected. But if your whole group is hitting balls that go past us or its happening more than twice, yeah, be "ready to go" and if you are too dense to realize that we are waiting on a group in front of us then that's on you. I am not going to sit there while you send 100mph golf balls at my head and just ask you nicely to stop. If you want your ball back it might hurt.
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07-11-2014 , 06:01 AM
tuq, ya the way that place is laid out that par 3 aims to a green--but it's long enough i'm hitting my driving iron, with the next teebox just off to the left(headed back). people at their 2nd shot on the other hole are just left of that. prob just me being paranoid lol. i just feel weird teeing off with people right in the potential kill zone. i usually hit a fade anyway..fwiw i hit my shot about 15-20ft right of the pin.

wrt to the other stuff i just read a couple hilarious posts on golfwrx by madgolfer-something about some shenanigans they've gotten into with people hitting into them. well worth the read!!!lol (one they let a guy think he hit a hole in one---gave out his # to the clubhouse bar with drinks for everyone!!--the other he's laid out in the fairway letting a guy think he's dead. lol)

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07-11-2014 , 12:14 PM
Wow those are both great trolls - the hole in one being the better of the two (although chances to execute would be pretty rare) since it's the type of thing that someone would want to believe.
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07-13-2014 , 10:07 AM
lol--i thought they were well written tho. thought the dude had credibility...maybe not.
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07-14-2014 , 07:41 PM
My one story that is kinda related harkens back to when I was in college and my buddies and I would have lots of fun golfing. I am not saying we were slow but we definitely were not fast. The course that we played was semi-private and had decent spaces between tee-times so we never held anyone up. And we were good enough so that if we ever did we could speed up and it would not be a problem.

Anyway, this one time we were playing in front of a foursome of little old ladies with carts (we were walking of course). We didn't ever see them until we got to around the 5th hole. It is a par four with a ravine around 150 yards in front of the green. After one of our group had some trouble navigating the ravine, we were up on the green lining up our putts. All of a sudden we hear "Thwack" and look up to see one of the little old ladies on the other side of the ravine hitting a wood right at us. Luckily it comes up short of the green so we go back to lining up our putts.

You guessed it, a few seconds later another "Thwack" and another ball is rifled towards the green (a couple of us covered our heads since we knew we were in mortal danger). Luckily, this ball too doesn't quite make the green. We try to speed up our putting but four guys putting out takes a few minutes. During this time two more "Thwack"'s have us virtually running to the next tee. (Again, neither ball made it all the way to the green.)

We are quite bemused and slightly ticked off at the same time. We didn't want to stir up any trouble since we were "guests" on the course and the little old ladies were presumably members and we don't want to lose our playing privileges. I am elected to talk to the ladies after we tee off on the next hole. One of the ladies parks her cart near the next tee as we finish teeing off. I gingerly approach her and ask how her round is going, or something like that. If she was mad at us I thought she would basically tell me so in response to that question.

She says she is having a good round and it is a beautiful day, isn't it? Yes it is, I say. I clear my throat and say in a low non-threatening tone that I couldn't help notice that the other members of her group (I had no idea which lady she was in the hitting order towards our green) hit their approach shots into the green while we were still on the green putting.

Oh dear, she says, every one in her foursome knows that they cannot reach the green from the other side of the ravine so on that hole they always hit their lay-up shots when the group in front of them reaches the green! I say that makes sense, have a nice day, and scurry off after my buds walking down the next fairway.
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07-14-2014 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by whosnext
My one story that is kinda related harkens back to when I was in college and my buddies and I would have lots of fun golfing. I am not saying we were slow but we definitely were not fast. The course that we played was semi-private and had decent spaces between tee-times so we never held anyone up. And we were good enough so that if we ever did we could speed up and it would not be a problem.

Anyway, this one time we were playing in front of a foursome of little old ladies with carts (we were walking of course). We didn't ever see them until we got to around the 5th hole. It is a par four with a ravine around 150 yards in front of the green. After one of our group had some trouble navigating the ravine, we were up on the green lining up our putts. All of a sudden we hear "Thwack" and look up to see one of the little old ladies on the other side of the ravine hitting a wood right at us. Luckily it comes up short of the green so we go back to lining up our putts.

You guessed it, a few seconds later another "Thwack" and another ball is rifled towards the green (a couple of us covered our heads since we knew we were in mortal danger). Luckily, this ball too doesn't quite make the green. We try to speed up our putting but four guys putting out takes a few minutes. During this time two more "Thwack"'s have us virtually running to the next tee. (Again, neither ball made it all the way to the green.)

We are quite bemused and slightly ticked off at the same time. We didn't want to stir up any trouble since we were "guests" on the course and the little old ladies were presumably members and we don't want to lose our playing privileges. I am elected to talk to the ladies after we tee off on the next hole. One of the ladies parks her cart near the next tee as we finish teeing off. I gingerly approach her and ask how her round is going, or something like that. If she was mad at us I thought she would basically tell me so in response to that question.

She says she is having a good round and it is a beautiful day, isn't it? Yes it is, I say. I clear my throat and say in a low non-threatening tone that I couldn't help notice that the other members of her group (I had no idea which lady she was in the hitting order towards our green) hit their approach shots into the green while we were still on the green putting.

Oh dear, she says, every one in her foursome knows that they cannot reach the green from the other side of the ravine so on that hole they always hit their lay-up shots when the group in front of them reaches the green! I say that makes sense, have a nice day, and scurry off after my buds walking down the next fairway.
I was waiting for her to start hitting you with her nine iron. So basically nothing happened?
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07-14-2014 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by EddyB66
I was waiting for her to start hitting you with her nine iron. So basically nothing happened?
I never said it was a good story!
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07-14-2014 , 10:49 PM
Moth story - the boring golf version lol
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07-17-2014 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Kvitlekh
A lot of the time on public courses it's more the fault of the course for scheduling so many tee times in one day when it's clear that it's going to get extremely crowded.

By the way, when is it ok to hit if there is a group in front of you? Say on a par 3, if they're already off the green (but still on the cart path adjacent to the green) and in their cart, can you tee off? Or do you have to wait until they drive away?
Just use common sense. With your worst pull or push, or longest shot, can you hit them? If yes then wait until they are well clear. We are talking seconds of wait time.
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07-17-2014 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by powder_8s
This happened to me on Sunday. I find this is way more common and a bigger problem then slow groups.

Teed off as a group of 4, at 9:30 Sunday, at the public course I am a member of. There was a group of four behind us and a group of two behind them. A single, in a cart putts out the 4th hole as quickly as he can and joins us on the 5th tee box. I tell him there are several groups of 4 in front of us and we are waiting on every tee box. He still pressures us to let him through. We let him through and he hits his second shot into the group in front of us, while they are on the green. He proceeds to join them on the 6th tee box.

That I could see, this guy ended up passing 5 groups on the front 9. The course was moving at a normal pace for Sunday morning. What is the etiquette for dealing with people that expect to play speed golf? He was trashing the pace of everyone. We all ended up waiting for him to play through.
Dick move by the guy to pressure u even after you tell him there is nowhere to go. I would have said "sorry bud......nothing is moving any faster if we let u through.Maybe you want to jump ahead 3 or 4 holes ahead of the traffic?"

He either has to drive away or STFU - he doesn't have anything else he can say.
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07-17-2014 , 06:10 PM
I was playing The Plantation in Maui in the late 90's at twilight so it was getting dark. This dude comes playing through as a single, doesn't say anything, just play's through like there's no one else on the course, and its packed. We were hitting into the green so it was empty, he was left of us and was never going to hit us. But, no eye contact, anything, just playing golf. I was grouped with 3 other singles and we were kinda stunned. Later that night i head out to meet my friend and his friends for dinner and this dude is at the table. When I told my buddy I was golfing he said he had a friend that wanted to go and I said cool I'm teeing off at 2, have him meet me if he wants to play.
Asked him wtf at dinner and he's like " I wanted to make sure I played the 18th before it was dark ". What a dildo
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