No it does not apply as much. In my method you learn to hit 3 shots with your go to chipping club. A low, medium and high shot. You walk up to your shot around the green and generally go with whichever shot will get the ball onto the ground the quickest. Obviously low shots when there is not much between you and the putting surface, and higher shots when you have less green to work with. It's very similar to the "stock shot" that dagolfdoc created a thread for. Amateurs would do themselves a huge service to learn a a few shots around the green that they are very comfortable with compared to trying to carry around Phil Mickelson's short game arsenal of shots and trying to pull off whichever is the most optimal.

This is an incredibly illogical way to think about a golf shot. Why is your only consideration the worst possible outcome?

If I'm 150 yards from the green, and there's water in front, should I hit a club that normally goes 200 yards, just so that I always avoid the worst possible outcome of going in the water? Or should I hit my 150y club because it will result in the lowest average score, even though I'll hit it in the water once in a while and make a big number?

When you're deciding how to invest your money, do you only think about the most money you could lose with each option? Shouldn't the ROI be the most important factor?

Most bad golfers are also very bad at ROI assesment on the course, and while most would be better of putting (and playing all areas more conservative) there is a lot of variables to consider. Like some people here mention a certain amont of feet of fringe/fairway and such they would put from, but that again is way to general.

If I´m within 7 yards of the pin I like to put whenever possible to get clean contact and ball to be rolling/semi bouncing. If I´m 25 yards from the pin I would almost always chip/pitch as even the slightest misjudging of speedloss or not from the grass can often end in up to 4 yards of wrong lenght. Pretty much the same risk factor as my chipping, but based on complete randomness.

I´m a hdc 4

I'm going to defend BO here.

He clearly didn't mean it as literally as you are taking it. That's why he prefaced his response with "the quick and dirty answer." For the most part, the good shots with putting and chipping are going to be very very similar. But the difference in bad shots is huge. So if their is little upside, but huge downside....

I agree from experience. I can't tell you how many times I say to myself, I should have just putted it. Of course that means I need to work on my short game, but I'm learning that golf is about playing within your limits.

Another rule that most amateurs should follow if a 15 handicap or higher is aim for the center of the green with your irons. To many high hnadicappers ask were is the flag. Reality it doesnt matter hit to the center. I putt it myself if fringe

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I would ay this is almost invariably true.

I would also say that on most full iron shots, most amateurs should decide what the right club is, pull it out of the bag, swing it, put it back in, take a longer club, and swing it easier.

I chip if I have green to work with most times, I feel pretty confident with my chipping, I'm also pretty confident with my putting but I prefer chip shots on this situation. Lets say I was in the fringe 5-10 feet away from the pin then I might putt. Also depending on what type of slope I'm having to deal with.

I've started doing this well not exactly that but when I think I need x club I go with 1 more and swing it pretty easy....given me so much more greens hit and been on line so much more.

Let's hear the EV breakdown, Burgundy.

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****ing rocket science, right? You're talking about teaching 3 different swings or setups or however you're differentiating between your "3 shots". In the time it takes you to grill in the necessary information and physicality of your three shots, you don't think it would be easier to teach one swing and just change the tool in their hands for different situations? What's it take, 20 minutes to teach someone the ideas behind the carry/roll of different lofts and then they can take the last 40 minutes of the hour to play around with it. I know you're good enough to be able to do this in one lesson.

This would be opposed to trying to have someone hit a chip with a 56 when they're 5 feet off the green and have 30 yards of smooth flat green in front of them. How far do you want him to lean the shaft forward to make that happen? I'm not talking about pitch shots here. I'm talking about bona fide chip for a 20 handicapper. I'm not talking about this solution being the tools to be able to hit the short sided flop shot over a bunker. I'm talking about chipping.

While I agree that they shouldnt aim for the flag, I don´t agree about middle of green. They should aim for the area of the green that is furthest away from the hazard or other thing they just can´t play from. Sometimes that area also contains the flag=bonus. They are much better of with a long put or long simple chip than in the corner of the bunker, flop shot demanding area, water or whatever.

I think they should think about there 1st shot before hitting there 2nd into the green, I mean if it's like a 350yard par 4 they should really think about getting there ball to get a good angle into the green, Most people who don't think about there teee shots would probably pull out the big stick and end up out of postion. If there in postion then imo they should go for it. If there out of postion then just hit the less danger shots into the green.

The time it takes to "grill in" the 3 shots I'm talking about is equal to teaching someone the proper chipping/pitching technique. Once they have that down, literally all they have to do is move the ball position backwards/forwards to adjust the trajectory. And you're right, it's not rocket science. I'm more of a teach someone how to use a club properly rather than just giving them the best tool for their messed up technique.

I also don't care what club they use between a PW and a LW, whichever they feel most comfortable with.