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07-21-2017 , 12:40 PM

#851

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Watch out for Pieters this weekend. You heard it here first.

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07-21-2017 , 01:37 PM

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Watch out for Pieters this weekend. You heard it here first.

welp

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07-21-2017 , 03:10 PM

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Wow, that was quite the hex I put down on him.

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07-21-2017 , 03:36 PM

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Wow, that was quite the hex I put down on him.

to be fair i liked the call/your post when it was posted. was thinking the same thing.

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07-22-2017 , 08:06 AM

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Lots of low scores so far this morning. Might see some big moves at the top of the leaderboard.

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07-22-2017 , 10:39 AM

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Just had a discussion about it and would like to hear input form more knowledge people: what's the significance of shooting 62 if almost every other reasonable player scores 66 or lower on a par 70 course?

My buddy says it's big but not nearly as big as guys on TV make it, I say that 2 years from now everybody still knows about the score (unless it has been beaten by then) but nobody will talk about how 'easy' it was. My point: People talk about the 31 63s, but barely anyone mentions which ones were shot on par 70/71/72 and nobody talks about how those rounds measured up to the average score that day, unless they compile a list of "best rounds ever played".

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07-22-2017 , 11:06 AM

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you bring up some good points. the way i look at it, i ask myself was this one of the top 20 rounds in major championship history? the answer is no.

a great golfer shot -8 in pristine scoring conditions. it happens nearly every week on major tours throughout the world.

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07-22-2017 , 11:10 AM

#858

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i partially agree and partially disagree............

there is some differentiation often cited on the 59's that have been shot i.e. par 72 vs. lower par... but OTOH, i think there's a good argument for not overthinking it.

is there something about johnny miller's 63 that makes it so special? i know lanny watkins shot 65 that day.

i think a golf academic - david broadie?? - has quant analyzed the best rounds ever.......... my research and a poster contribution suggest geiberger and furyk have been 6 strokes better than field when they shot 59. interesting when tiger won 2000 pebble USO by 13 (???) he never had the best round.

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07-22-2017 , 11:14 AM

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My buddy says it's big but not nearly as big as guys on TV make it

Your buddy is wrong, men's major championship golf has been played since 1860 and nobody had shot 62. Until today. There's a huge reason why there's been so many 63's with nobody going lower, stats geeks like poker players can certainly see the logic in that.

Although I was yelling at the TV that there have already been 2 62's in major championship golf, women's major championship golf.

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07-22-2017 , 11:18 AM

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i think a golf academic - david broadie?? - has quant analyzed the best rounds ever.......... my research and a poster contribution suggest geiberger and furyk have been 6 strokes better than field when they shot 59. interesting when tiger won 2000 pebble USO by 13 (???) he never had the best round.

Tiger had the solo lead after round 1. Also think he had the lowest final round. He won by 15.

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07-22-2017 , 11:37 AM

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Koepka's on course demeanor is a bit of a put off. It's like he's trying to be DJ. With DJ it works, because he definitely has an air of 'I don't really even love this game, it's just that it allows me to plow women like Paulina Gretzky.'

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07-22-2017 , 11:42 AM

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Although I was yelling at the TV that there have already been 2 62's in major championship golf, women's major championship golf.

I never figured you for a social justice warrior.

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07-22-2017 , 11:42 AM

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I don't think it's very significant, except that it broke an old record that a lot of people seemed to mentally choke on for years. The course they're playing on is pretty easy with no wind/soft conditions.

Shutting up Johnny Miller is a pretty significant part of it.

And even though Par 70s lack par 5 scoring opportunities, I do think it cheapens low scores a bit. A 59 on a par 72 is more impressive to me, even if the par 5s are super gettable. It's hard to go that deep, even if you can hit iron into 4 par 5s.

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07-22-2017 , 11:47 AM

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Great post.

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07-22-2017 , 12:36 PM

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I mean I agree with that in general, but by the same logic a 57 would be an awesome score on a par 58 course.

I am very sure the average score today will be lower than the vast majority of days somebody shot a 63.

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07-22-2017 , 12:43 PM

#866

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Coverage has been awesome.. Rooting for Kooch.

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07-22-2017 , 02:39 PM

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Wow, that was quite the hex I put down on him.

Didn't post it but I liked Henley through two rounds and thought he'd make a run at it today. +5. Oops.

Anyone with a heart has to be rooting for Matt tomorrow.

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07-22-2017 , 02:42 PM

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Yep.

Not a major so not fully relevant to this conversation but this 62 was not half as good as Davis Love III going from T3, 2 shots back, to 1st by six shots at the Players by shooting 64 in the rain on a day when the field averaged 76.5

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07-22-2017 , 02:44 PM

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BOOM

an American hero. a golfing American hero.

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07-22-2017 , 03:18 PM

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those in the U.S., put it on FS1. the final holes of the boys U.S. Junior Am. you're not going to believe the leader's (Wolff) action as he hits the ball. can't believe he is elite w/ that swing.

edit: at least with an iron off the tee, i haven't seen him hit a fairway wood or driver.

also, Wolff was 4U w/ 8 to play (36 hole final) and this thing is getting interesting.

Goodwin shot 59 last month:

http://usatodayhss.com/2017/texas-16...in-shoots-a-59

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07-22-2017 , 05:02 PM

#871

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Please Kooch, run that kid down tomorrow.

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07-22-2017 , 05:03 PM

#872

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I'd be happy to see Speith win. Not like I'm a huge fan but the top 5 in the world need to be winning more majors right now.

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07-22-2017 , 06:17 PM

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Question:

Let's say the weather was going to be terrible late in the day Saturday, so the leaders going out will be at a severe disadvantage. Would somebody intentionally lose a few strokes to have a better draw come Saturday? Like a guy taking a triple on 18 in order to go out earlier.