dunno if you saw my other post but the delivery guy showed up today but they had mixed up something and brought me 2 27" monitors instead of the 1 30" I ordered. they said someone will come switch them tomorrow

i don't care how they do it so cheaply as long as i get the right monitor tomorrow

How are ppl arguing supply/demand? Current logistics are difficult in poker and many players in thailand want or need cash quickly at times. Those accommodating should get vig accordingly...maybe I'm misunderstanding what's being argued but it seems cut and dry.

btw are you sure that they sell brand new devices? (not refurbished or something)

ps looking forward for your tmrw reply

i got no clue what's in the box. all i know is what's on the website.

the 27" monitor boxes say made in china in december 2011

uihioh

i agree ...

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It's not hard to pay less than 5% vig. You can withdraw 30K baht at a time from an ATM and pay 2-3% (I've done this multiple times). Trying to sucker people into paying twice what they should is a scam if you ask me, and I think the only reason you're getting upset with my post just might be because you don't want to lose out on this lucrative money changing venture you talk about being involved in. As far as being a mouth breathing moron.. quite the contrary, a mouth breathing moron is someone who pays 5% for USD to THB.

i did the 5% vig trade with cmason (no problems) before, it's a +EV and convenient deal on <$300, not sure where the exact breakeven point is.

cos kasikorn charges 250 baht anyway when you cash out yourself from partypoker, and stars seems to go through 2 banks and it's more like 500-600 baht that you lose for some reason

for $1k-$2k then it would obv be a better deal to go via moneybookers or cashout yourself, as lessu said

maybe these ppl don't have an account they have an ATM card for?

if someone advertises 5% vig and someone else is willing to pay for that and both parties receive the money how on earth is that a scam?

^ who doesn't have a debit or credit card in this day and age?

Taking advantage of someone's ignorance, even if being ostensibly "upfront", is in my opinion a scam. For example, I consider money exchange booths at the airport that charge around 5% to be a scam. I also consider "instant cash" loan places with ridiculously high rates to be a scam. Some people think it's not a scam and is OK. Fine - let's leave it at that and agree to disagree, I certainly wont be using your "services" though.

Are you really this ****ing stupid? Just because a cheaper alternative exists doesn't make something a "scam." Bookstores are a scam, you buy them cheaper on Amazon. New cars are a scam, they depreciate as soon as you drive them off the lot. Restaurants are a scam, you can make the food cheaper yourself. Idiot.

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lol

i am not offering any services so i am glad you won't be using them

exchange booths at airport have much higher rents than some other locations. people who use those also have less options to get money. i think it easily justifies higher vig and anyone could do the research and avoid them if they wanted

Dude nobody is forcing you to use the service. It's also interesting that you've decided to just change the definition of the word scam for your own purposes. You definitely aren't doing the community any favors by coming in here and lambasting people for offering a perfectly reasonable service. It's pretty poor form and just makes you look like an ass.

Just as we seem to have different definitions of what is or isn't a scam, it appears we also seem to have different definitions of what "idiot" means. I will say, though, that when one side in an argument resorts to ad-hominem attacks instead of reasoned arguments, it's usually the side that's wrong.

I was referring to the other poster's services. Anyway, I consider it to be a scam, and would never pay 5% vig under anything resembling normal circumstances. If you feel that it's OK, then go ahead and pay it, I don't see why everyone is so touchy about this subject.

a $215 wire cashout pokerstars to kasikorn (would usually cash out more, but needed the cash quickly) i made in december was 9.2% vig (6023.07 hit kbank, was 6630.89 on xe.com at the time)

after that i used cmason's service and had the cash in my account instantly at 5% vig instead

dude, i am with you here. i think 5% is very high on normal circumstances. in case you haven't noticed i usually try to help ppl getting the most min vig possible

all I(we?) are saying is that for some people there are situations where they might need a service like was offered and without someone offering nobody would know about it

like jspill said, if you absolutely need let's say $300 fast there might not be better options for some. even i got ATM cards for finnish accounts but every finnish bank would rob me out of 2.5%+2 euros+150 baht on thai end+the 2.5% is taken after a horrible exchange rate. if i went to withdraw 20k from a thai atm it would cost me around 5% too. tbh, i would rather have someone i know to have that money than a bank

we all got different ways of getting money to thailand. the cheapest/fastest/best way isn't the same for everyone

Just received the 30"

says made in china, manufacturing date Jan 2012. has all serial numbers, service tags etc so i assume it is new. the site promised 5 year on-site warranty

so can highly recommend the site I ordered it from. it took 9 days after I ordered and without the mix-up it would have been 8

they did raise the price from 39 to 43k for the 30" though after my order

scammed!

Does anybody actually get that mid floating rate anyway? I highly doubt it, you will be getting the banks buy or sell rate.

hookers are a scam, you could jerk off for free

you are an idiot because you don't grasp the concept or have basic understanding for supply/demand in a free market economy. Anyone has a right to offer whatever service they so choose at whatever price. As long as there is no deception in the enterprise, it does not constitute a scam. You also provide no bright line as to what is an appropriate amount of vig to charge for these transfers, nor do you give any logic for why you are any type of authority on the matter. Why is charging 5% for a transfer a scam and banks charging 3% not a scam? Should all banks be bound to charge nothing for the services they offered?

its funny in this case i will continue to insult you because you are a ****** (a somewhat articulate ******, ill give you that), and I am 100% correct in everything i say despite using ad-hominem attacks in the process. I mean read your posts, do you not get how stupid your logic is? "well 5% is a scam because you can do x -> y -> z for <5%" is your basic argument, and despite your many posts in response, you still rely on the same elementary argument that gets you no where.

now please stfu and go away.

and reading these forums im pretty sure everyone agrees with my logic. you can apologize now that you realize you are wrong, or you can continue to be stubborn and argue in an attempt to save face (which is probably futile now that everyone understands why you are an idiot.)