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09-28-2015 , 04:53 PM
yes every single hand i played terrible, getting the drooler to call sixteen of his one hundred pre with two unders to my pair....... how terrible i played that one

the only hand i dont like the way i played was the sixes that i turned into a bluff trying to bluff a fish....... thats never wise

i dont mind the sevens bluff at all, that guy should never be stacking off one pair vs me, i am never playing KK or QQ in that way, he beats basically nothing

the AQ hand vs the fish for a smallish stack is something i really cant fold

the AA vs AK where i bet small and got the guy to shove on me with two percent....... another example of me playing every hand terribly, im sure if i would have played that one better he wouldnt have hit
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09-28-2015 , 05:04 PM
Youre right. i also made an excellent play jamming 72o getting everyone to fold preflop. Nothing like being results orientated to prove you played a hand correctly...

mistake in AQ hand
mistake in 66 hand
mistake in AA hand
mistake in 44 hand
mistake in 77 hand (special lol at "i have a set 90% of the time", 9 combos of sets, 6 combos of 7, sure you have sets 90% of the time buddy)

no i wont be telling you what those mistakes are on an open forum. Was just giving you advice to not play 1/2 online with some incredible leaks/thought process. but hey ho, if you want to keep burning money, go ahead
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09-28-2015 , 05:20 PM
im a huge winner at 1-2 because i only play if the game is good

where is the mistake in the AA hand? limping in a spot where there is a huge chance one of the aggro guys will raise (which they did) and iso'ing the fish getting a quarter of his stack in pre...... terrible mistake

44 hand was player dependent, as a post from a few days ago mentioned i have already made a lot of money bluffing him when he bets half pot..... it didnt work out one time


you are right just calling pre with the QA was terrible things would have worked out much better if i had 3bet

im not playing 7s like that every time, and if i am check raising on a low flop vs him in that spot then yes i have a set 90% of the time particularly if i am betting big on the turn


im not asking for your advice on my horrible mistakes, this happens any time i post a hand.... omg i am terrible and will be broke by the end of 2012 if i keep playing this way because there is only one way to make money at poker and if i dont play like every other reg then i will be back in the US before 2013 so i better get a HUD and watch some training videos before its all over

guess what guys...... there is more than 1 way to make money at poker

i know that sounds crazy but its true
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09-28-2015 , 05:31 PM
yeh youre right theres more than 1 way to make money. A mistake is made when you take a line which is less +ev than another line. Which clearly seems to be the case with a lot of those hands. but yeh w/e. laters
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09-28-2015 , 05:46 PM
it's possible you're way over EV lifetime, you play long hours but don't mass-table or get many hands in. would ask how many but no holdem manager

just recall you 1 - 2 table a lot, rarely more. then before when playing mtts it was only a handful a month

above EV as much as lol69 is down imo
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09-28-2015 , 09:15 PM
The argument against open limping big PP's from EP is 'don't do it because it turns your hand face up for your opponents.'

In this situation though it should be alright because he has a total drooler that his hand isn't face up to even when he does this, and he actually likes the fact that his hand is face up to the other guy because he wants him to fold so he can have the droolers money all to himself. Also it works out quite nicely considering the droolers stack size.

I think limping AA is fine there, and quite possibly did work out better for him than open 2-betting would have.


Also AQ does not need to be an auto 3-bet everytime, I don't play online anymore but I'd have to guess there are winning mid stakes players that flat AQ more than 3-bet it. If your choices are to be near the bottom of your 3-bet value range or the tippity top of your flatting range thus under repping your hand somewhat in the process which would you prefer? The latter sounds preferable to me.


Most of his mid pocket pair hands I'm on board with not liking.

His AA hand and his AQ flat pre seem fine - good.
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09-28-2015 , 10:38 PM
K2D out of interest what do you class as a huge winner at 1-2? Didn't you put on a earlier post the .25/.50 games were pretty much unbeatable?
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09-29-2015 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by kick2dante
he then raises 60% of hands for the next hour and i get nothing, i get 66 he raises flop 954ss he bets i call turn Jh he bets I call riv Qs he bets small....... i rep the flush draw... he has 98ss for the flush, he just calls my riv raise
smh....
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09-29-2015 , 03:24 AM
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K2D out of interest what do you class as a huge winner at 1-2? Didn't you put on a earlier post the .25/.50 games were pretty much unbeatable?
there is ten times more action at 1-2 then at .25-.50, .25-.50 is always running and every time i sit in a game the action is terrible, or i catch the last round of the fish and then it dies

1-2 only runs if there is a fish, and once the fish leaves the game breaks

its the same between the difference of 1-2 and 2-5 in vegas

the low stakes games are scared money, if you want to play a run over the nits game then by all means play the .25-.50 on 888 or 1-2 in vegas and i am sure you can pick up tiny pot after tiny pot

if you want to bumhunt then you need to play higher, fish generally have lots of money and that is why they dont mind spewing it away

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it's possible you're way over EV lifetime, you play long hours but don't mass-table or get many hands in. would ask how many but no holdem manager

just recall you 1 - 2 table a lot, rarely more. then before when playing mtts it was only a handful a month

above EV as much as lol69 is down imo
did PE teach you a lesson in trolling?

i have actually run extremely bad at 1-2 (how many emails did i send you on the subject) and am still way up in it because of game selection

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Originally Posted by ITT666
The argument against open limping big PP's from EP is 'don't do it because it turns your hand face up for your opponents.'

In this situation though it should be alright because he has a total drooler that his hand isn't face up to even when he does this, and he actually likes the fact that his hand is face up to the other guy because he wants him to fold so he can have the droolers money all to himself. Also it works out quite nicely considering the droolers stack size.

I think limping AA is fine there, and quite possibly did work out better for him than open 2-betting would have.


Also AQ does not need to be an auto 3-bet everytime, I don't play online anymore but I'd have to guess there are winning mid stakes players that flat AQ more than 3-bet it. If your choices are to be near the bottom of your 3-bet value range or the tippity top of your flatting range thus under repping your hand somewhat in the process which would you prefer? The latter sounds preferable to me.


Most of his mid pocket pair hands I'm on board with not liking.

His AA hand and his AQ flat pre seem fine - good.
its funny how guys on here never watch me play, have no clue about the table dynamics, and then judge my 'terrible plays' when i got basically exactly what i hoped for out of the hand

i played my hand in a way that got someone to call a quarter of their stack pre vs my AA....... good luck finding more profitable spots then that in todays poker climate

the thing about fish is they dont really care how big a bet is, if they like their hand they are going to call, and getting people to call more than 10% of their stack pre when u have big pairs isnt a bad thing

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09-29-2015 , 03:35 AM
Yeah, I know.

I was agreeing with you on the AA hand Dante.
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09-29-2015 , 04:02 AM
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Yeah, I know.

I was agreeing with you on the AA hand Dante.
i know dude, even though that came after quoting you i know you are the only one that sees on my level here

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09-29-2015 , 01:26 PM
i hate this game so ****ing much please god let this be the last year i ever play

uber aggrotard reg who has played thousands of hands vs me and still gives me no respect raises full pot on the button after fish and others limp, i have AA in the sb after just 3betting him on other table and him folding

when the fish limped i knew all of this would go down

i 3bet him huge from 6.50 to 17.50 and he 4bets....... i just call so he can continue his agro tard ways (every decision i make these past few days is punished) flop Q103r i check he checks turn Q i bet he calls riv 2 i bet he calls he has KQo

4betting a 10/5 with KQo

getting 1/3 of stacks in pre

profit

this after a day of waking up with a brutal headache and grinding out $60 profit getting no action

please god have this be my last year of poker

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09-29-2015 , 02:05 PM
glad i don't play poker for a living.
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09-29-2015 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by kick2dante
i hate this game so ****ing much please god let this be the last year i ever play

uber aggrotard reg who has played thousands of hands vs me and still gives me no respect raises full pot on the button after fish and others limp, i have AA in the sb after just 3betting him on other table and him folding

when the fish limped i knew all of this would go down

i 3bet him huge from 6.50 to 17.50 and he 4bets....... i just call so he can continue his agro tard ways (every decision i make these past few days is punished) flop Q103r i check he checks turn Q i bet he calls riv 2 i bet he calls he has KQo

4betting a 10/5 with KQo

getting 1/3 of stacks in pre

profit

this after a day of waking up with a brutal headache and grinding out $60 profit getting no action

please god have this be my last year of poker
I noticed a lot of the hands you write about you seem to do a lot of checking when you have the best of it, and then betting when you have the worst of it. Like checking flop with AA then betting turn and river when way way behind. Try doing it the other way around. Less tricky plays, more straightforward action will probably work just fine against fish, and will get them to fold out and not hit their "x-outers" when your checking line gets checked back all around. Just a thought, GL.
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09-30-2015 , 03:45 AM
6.50 to 17.50 is a massive 3 bet? Really is it?
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09-30-2015 , 08:25 AM
for cash games thats pretty big, though i guess in that example of 6.50 its not that big

the big ones i guess are when they open to 2.62 and i make it 15

still its enough to make sure you are getting value from any hand that calls, and setting up a small enough stp ratio that you cant really fold on any board really really unless u wanna hero fold something like QJ10 and hope they dont have KK (or that you wouldnt bink a K)

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09-30-2015 , 11:03 AM
Holy fk you're bad at poker, id strongly advise that you give it up now, especially if you don't enjoy playing, chances are you're not as profitable as you think you are, and your 'strategy' will continue to get less 'profitable'(Im not so sure it can be called this) as time goes by, Stick to blogging or something, Im not trying to pick holes in anything here, I'm trying to give sound advice, but its probably best if you don't make posts about running badly, cause for you to be profitable in 2015, I assure you, you're running good.

Apologies for the harsh tone.
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09-30-2015 , 11:41 AM
Have you thought about getting a hud?

I was actually asking as i don't play HE (only microstakes PLO that i crush for 6 bucks a day, detailed in my book on amazon).
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09-30-2015 , 12:00 PM
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Holy fk you're bad at poker, id strongly advise that you give it up now, especially if you don't enjoy playing, chances are you're not as profitable as you think you are, and your 'strategy' will continue to get less 'profitable'(Im not so sure it can be called this) as time goes by, Stick to blogging or something, Im not trying to pick holes in anything here, I'm trying to give sound advice, but its probably best if you don't make posts about running badly, cause for you to be profitable in 2015, I assure you, you're running good.

Apologies for the harsh tone.
this post brought to you by the cambodia thread in 2012

considering i moved here with $6k, am not broke yet, and obsess over money 24/7 i think i know exactly how profitable i am

its really funny how you guys think there is only one way to play that can win
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09-30-2015 , 12:24 PM
my 2nd hand today reg raises utg folds to me in bb i have 3s and call flop A63, luckily i go for check raises and he slowplays his set of AAA and i know my life so when i bet turn Q and he raises i just call and check call river

then i grind my way to being up 100, games pretty bad i take a break, come back the same idiot that has owned me all week with terrible calls (109s vs my KK, AK shoving 10103 vs my AA) is playing

reg raises to 3 and other calls, i am mid with AA and make it 15 off 110 stack...... the drooler is behind me and cold calls with 5s

obv flop 754

more of my terrible play, if i just didnt keep putting myself in these super profitable preflop spots because i know my opponents are awful........... but oh wait you guys are right i just run so awesome thats why the worst player on the site is kicking my ass by consistently making terrible calls for way to much money vs me and hitting
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09-30-2015 , 01:08 PM
Youre correct, I was being naive, Im now interested in buying the ebook, I want to see how your style can win, can you post a graph first though so I know im not wasting my money?
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09-30-2015 , 01:11 PM
what was the flop action?
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09-30-2015 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by kick2dante
luckily i go for check raises and he slowplays his set of AAA
Sweet Jesus, stop always going for the out of position glorious checkraise! Granted it would've been worse this time with set over set. But what are you really accomplishing when you checkraise flop against his full range? You fold out his bluffs which probably have minimal if any equity and don't allow him to continue to bluff, and you pretty much turn your hand face up and let a smart player get away from a weakish top pair hand that otherwise would keep barreling. There's a reason Doyle Brunson said the checkraise is actually a relatively weak play.
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09-30-2015 , 01:40 PM
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Youre correct, I was being naive, Im now interested in buying the ebook, I want to see how your style can win, can you post a graph first though so I know im not wasting my money?
the fact that i am still in asia doesnt prove that i have been winning?

let me guess it was easy to win in 2013 and 2014 but now that its 2015 im ****ed?


for some reason you guys dont seem to understand, i am not saying i am a great player, i am not saying i make the most optimally correct play every time, i am not saying you can buy my ebook and make more than you are now (i even said that its not an ebook written for poker players)

i find places where bad players play, i play in ways that will make bad players make mistakes, i set it up so i dont have to think, i get them to make such bad preflop calls that no matter what long term i profit, i mostly play a preflop game, if i am playing a postflop game it is likely either with a set, two pair, or a huge draw


i dont want to study a ton to get better at a game that is clearly dying, i have no interest in trying to be the best reg at a table of 9 regs...... i probably couldnt be anyways, but even if i could i dont want to sit in games without bad players, my strategy isnt built around firing up any 1-2 table on stars and trying to outplay everyone, its built around finding bad players and
exploiting the fact that they have no problem calling 15% of their stack pre in hopes of sucking out


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what was the flop action?
i bet big he calls turn brick i bet big he shoves when im committed, flop had flush draw...... either way i have seen him get any overpair in in the same way so i am never folding after 15% of stacks goes in pre
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09-30-2015 , 01:43 PM
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