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08-18-2016 , 12:47 AM
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Will the poker room move to the new Wynn casino, anyone who's there can update?


"Ahead of next week’s planned opening of its new $4.2 billion Wynn Palace Cotai development, American casino operator Wynn Resorts Limited has announced that it has received approval to transfer up to 250 under-performing Wynn Macau gaming tables to the new property."

https://news.worldcasinodirectory.co...g-tables-32729
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08-18-2016 , 05:33 AM
thanks!
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08-20-2016 , 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Smans
Macau poker

Will the poker room move to the new Wynn casino, anyone who's there can update?


"Ahead of next week’s planned opening of its new $4.2 billion Wynn Palace Cotai development, American casino operator Wynn Resorts Limited has announced that it has received approval to transfer up to 250 under-performing Wynn Macau gaming tables to the new property."

https://news.worldcasinodirectory.co...g-tables-32729
I hope they do...
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08-24-2016 , 12:06 PM
Anybody in SZ or dongguan?
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09-17-2016 , 10:37 AM
Can someone trade me some money on stars for HKD in the next few days? I am currently in Macau. Need around 10-15k$
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09-29-2016 , 01:02 PM
Sorry for what's likely a terrible grunch -- was surprised there wasn't a FAQ in the OP or something. I needed to take a trip to China for business and wanted to get a bank account opened while I was there. Can someone tell me whether 5 days be long enough to set up a bank account? I want to be able to make payments through online banking since I have business partners and merchants in China that I'd like to be able to send and receive money without being there. Any info would be great.
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09-29-2016 , 01:10 PM
You'll have to go to a bank and ask. Not sure what kind of account you want to open, but pretty sure a personal account requires a lease for most banks, at least for the larger banks.
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09-29-2016 , 02:28 PM
Interesting. All the banks websites online say just a passport is required.
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09-29-2016 , 02:34 PM
I'm pretty sure my bank of China account required a lease, can't remember for the other. Either way best bet is to just go.
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09-29-2016 , 08:04 PM
Yeah, although I would hate to fly all the way there of course and then find out that I can't open without a lease. A google search turned up a lot of links such as these:

https://www.quora.com/Banks-How-can-...count-in-China

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339136.0

Can anyone else confirm they needed a lease?

Edit:
Just searched this thread and saw a couple posts also saying just a passport is required....
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=4709

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=4927

Last edited by Flawless_CED; 09-29-2016 at 08:33 PM.
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09-29-2016 , 09:33 PM
Depending on the connections/level of pull some of your Chinese business partners have, I'd say one of them could probably assist you in opening a bank account without you having to dot every I and cross every T.
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09-29-2016 , 10:18 PM
ICBC: still really easy, possible even with only passport and someone else's housing contract (just say you live there) BUT (!!!) no online banking if you register with a tourist visa (you can use WeChat wallet without issues, just no access to their online system)

BoC: getting more and more hesitant to open accounts for foreigners, a lot of them won't do it for tourists visas and require at least a 6M business visa or similar (it's not set in stone)

CMBC: your best bet imo, always really friendly and welcoming in my experience, can usually open an account with passport + alien registration form (the paper you get after registering your address with the police... meaning if you stay in a hotel it might bring difficulties) - also including full access to online banking, sending money overseas and changing currencies ALL IN CHINESE - no english

All that being said, it might differ from city to city and especially from branch to branch. They all say something else. It's definitely not mission impossible. Like IT666 said if you bring a Chinese friend (the type of friend who can go straight to the VIP counter), it will be really easy with whatever papers you managed to get.

Another option is to simply get WeChat and do all your transactions with that. I don't know what kind of numbers we are talking about but it's always possible to somehow get the funds on your WeChat Wallet and send it to the merchants that way. It's by far the #1 used (and/or AliPay) payment system in China anyway. Unless maybe we're talking about hundreds of thousands of renminbi.

One more difficulty I'm seeing is that if you only have 5 days and you're planning on opening the account on Day1, how are you going to get funds on there in time? International wires will take a few working days so chances are it will be too late, and if we're talking about amounts you could get out of an ATM, then WeChat seems to be the smartest and easiest choice anyway.

And be aware you can't access Chinese online banking from overseas even if you had access to it. Maybe on a Chinese VPN, dunno, never tried it.

Last edited by Syndr0m; 09-29-2016 at 10:24 PM.
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09-30-2016 , 03:13 AM
Flawless, just forget about it, just do wires, paypal or swap out cash to have someone send you money on wechat.
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10-01-2016 , 12:33 AM
yes you are able to access to internet banking even if you are outta china,
as syndrom said, different cities have sorta of different rules,
try to bring a chinese friend there to the bank,
ICBC still one of the best !
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10-03-2016 , 04:40 AM
So my gf and I are thinking of going to china (from aus) for a 2 week holiday most likely some time in Jan.

at the moment i've suggested beijing (& nanchang), shanghai and HK. maybe squeeze macau in there.

given its going to be cold and the skiing in aus sux i'm pretty keen to get to the snow. we're both novices and have only gone once or twice each.

i looked at yabuli which as rated the best resort but the weather avg -15 to -20 celcius and thats way too cold for us.

nanchang looks to to be avg -10 and close to beijing. can anyone advise what the skiing/boarding there is like and what costs we can expect? we don't need it to be amazing because its more just having a bit of newbie fun although i may push it a little bit (i totally kicked ass when i last went boarding in Dubai..)

we'll obv do the usual touristy things in all the cities however my gf want to be able to relax somewhere for a few days as well.

is this timeline also realistic to see everything we ought to (not even sure what yet)

Bejing - 3 nights
Nanchang - 3 nights
Shanghai - 4 nights
HK -4 nights

with maybe 2 nights in macau squeezed in (her colleagues dad is some big shot in a casino there?) and maybe 1 more additional to account for travel getting there?

we picked china because we figure it will be cheaper than japan.

our other options could also be taiwan & korea in place of some of these chinese cities.

Very open to any travel suggestions and whether you think i should spend more time in some places!

Last edited by kail0r; 10-03-2016 at 05:01 AM.
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10-03-2016 , 06:07 AM
There's really not much to do in Hong Kong or Macau except eat and party, you can see all the sites in one day each. Shanghai two days. So you might want to cut out some time there and add it to Beijing imo. Beijing has a ton to see and transportation is awful so it takes a long time. (Hong Kong actually has a lot to offer, but most of it requires some planning and is a bit of a trip in itself so I'm guessing you won't be doing that) I've never been to nanchang so can't comment there.

if you really want some good advice here then you'll need to get a bit more specific with your plans and what all you want to see/do in each city.
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10-03-2016 , 06:23 AM
i havent been to Japan, but youre picking the most expensive cities in China, not sure how much youll save.
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10-03-2016 , 06:34 AM
i don't ski but have heard the skiing here isn't that good and a lot of people actually go to japan or further up north to do that but it's becoming more popular and with winter olympics it could be getting a lot better

I would seriously reconsider your itinerary, given the size of china you're doing something more like "I'll go to Belgium for 3 days then hop on a plane to Vienna for 4 days before hitting up Helsinki for 3 more"

I would just choose one area and really focus upon that.

I have friends that come and visit in Beijing and spend over a week here and feel like there is stuff they still didn't get a chance to see and want to come back for reference.

I think a Beijing centric trip is really what you want with side excursions to Datong, Pingyao, Xi'an and possibly include Chengde and these are all overnight train rides away so you can save money on hotels by traveling at night and sleeping in the bunks.

1 day in Datong, 1 day in Pingyao (on way to or from Xi'an), 2-3 days in Xi'an, one day in Chengde and rest in Beijing.

1 Day: Forbidden City, Tiananmen Square, Great Hall of the People, Maoseleum

1 Day: Great Wall - if you bring camping gear and hire a car/driver and go to a more remote section 3 hours outside city instead of typical touristy spot 1 hour away then you can hike up, be basically by yourselves and camp in one of the towers then hike down next day and meet your driver

1 Day: Summer Palace(s) - there are two, the one we foreign devils sacked and now in ruins and the newer one they built to replace it with

1 early morning: Temple of Heavan - go super early and see all the retirees singing together, swinging swords, playing hacky sack - incredibly surreal to see how Beijingers treat retirement

1-2 days: wander the hutongs, see the lakes and canals veering up north from forbidden city

then theres so much more, drum and bell towers, lama temple (tons of temples) and it just goes on and on. You'll be taking a cab to go get dinner and just pass this old tower remaining from original city wall and it's there like no big deal not even set up for tourism because they just have so much **** remaining from the ming and qing dynasties
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10-03-2016 , 07:22 AM
Yeah agree with both of you. Re what pe said: another thing to consider is that japan's rail pass is such great value for a short trip, flying in China can get expensive.

What Rick roll said is also correct. China has a ton of stuff to see and do, but I understand when people just want to do one trip and see as much as possible because they'll probably never be back.

Beijing itself can be a week trip. Shanghai has a ton of places to see within a short distance, and that could be another short trip in itself. Hangzhou especially is, imo, one of the best tourist destinations in China. Absolutely loved that place, great food, best tea in China, and so many things to see within a short distance. Best place to take pictures and also to bring a girl.

So yeah, you'll he better off focusing on a few areas and we can help you see all the best things. If your goal is to just hit the major cities then that's totally understandable too.
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10-04-2016 , 03:49 AM
Wow thanks for the great responses. I'll have to never another think about it got sure and try plan a little more
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10-04-2016 , 04:01 PM
You should consider Xian. Honestly I was a bit disappointed by the Terracotta Warriors but the food in Xian is amazing and if you're into history, it's even better than Beijing. I've been skiing twice in China...both times were disasters. There is absolutely no etiquette or any of that stuff on the slopes. Japan is a much better choice. Rail pass is the nuts.

I would choose either Shanghai or Hong Kong. Don't go to both. They are both full of the same stuff with people who have a 'we're better than the rest of China' attitude. You don't need that. Furthermore, since both cities are extremely fast paced, it will be hard to interact with locals. Beijing, Xian, and Chengdu are a lot more laid back and full of great people.
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10-05-2016 , 03:54 AM
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Wow thanks for the great responses. I'll have to never another think about it got sure and try plan a little more
Just a suggestion, but if you come to Macau, you can easily use this as a few days of relaxing in the Casino spas for the Gf (1-2Days). They are on the expensive side, but are full day packages, as well as private pools/steam and the weather is good for tanning etc

Gives you time to play some cards
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10-05-2016 , 03:45 PM
Any of you China guys been to Xinjiang? Or made is as far as Kyrgyzstan? Any recs on things to there?
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10-05-2016 , 09:27 PM
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Any of you China guys been to Xinjiang? Or made is as far as Kyrgyzstan? Any recs on things to there?
I've been there, it's a must see imo if you've seen most of the Han Chinese stuff.

Two things that come to mind are the animal market in Urumqi but most importantly work your way to Kashgar, take a bus to the Karakul Lake and spend a night or two with a local family in a yurt or tiny house. They will come pick you up at the bus stop with motorbikes and ask about 30rmb/person for food+stay. One of the most breathtaking views I've ever seen too. It's right at the border between Pakistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgizstan and China.

Don't believe all that tour guide / permit crap you read on the internet about getting there. It's really simple.
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