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05-06-2015 , 11:12 AM
Third expat death in PP this week. Allegedly hanged himself from this door handle with a knot that doesn't look stressed.



http://www.dap-news.com/2011-06-14-0...90737--lr.html
Link in khmer.
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05-06-2015 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TheLandlord
Third expat death in PP this week. Allegedly hanged himself from this door handle with a knot that doesn't look stressed.



http://www.dap-news.com/2011-06-14-0...90737--lr.html
Link in khmer.
They had to loosen the knot to get him off the door handle I would think.
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05-06-2015 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 5 south
They had to loosen the knot to get him off the door handle I would think.
And tie it back on for a photo? I had thought they would take the end off his neck, but maybe you are right.
There's still the question of how to hang yourself from a waist high point?
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05-06-2015 , 01:02 PM
obviously u never watched the wire
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05-06-2015 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by kick2dante
obviously u never watched the wire
I don't watch dramas or go to the bingo lol.

It seems especially suss in the country where a driver at the bottom of a pond, with his decapitated head in the boot/trunk, was called a suicide. This weeks cases are just the latest in a long line of suspicious deaths over the years.
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05-06-2015 , 02:20 PM
The wire is the greatest none comedy show of all time, if you have never seen it you're doing yourself a great disservice.
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05-06-2015 , 04:43 PM
I remember a guy that broadcasted his suicide on webcam and he hanged himself from a very low height. I think he was swedish, google it if you wish but is quite disturbing.
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05-06-2015 , 05:05 PM
****ing idiot that I am. Forgot to renew my passport and will need to cancel the ****ing plane ticket. I'll hang myself on a door knob.
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05-06-2015 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ramabranch
I remember a guy that broadcasted his suicide on webcam and he hanged himself from a very low height. I think he was swedish, google it if you wish but is quite disturbing.
Googled it. Poor guy was lonely because he had aspergers, even though he had a nice apartment and good job. Not nitpicking, but it was higher than a doorknob!

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Originally Posted by ITT666
The wire is the greatest none comedy show of all time, if you have never seen it you're doing yourself a great disservice.
I'd watch it if it was a movie of under two hours. Not seen the Sopranos or any of the must watch stuff. I think of TV as a bit of a waste of time. Too many episodes in these drama series.
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05-06-2015 , 06:41 PM
Guys I'm due to be in Cambodia at the end of the month, but all these stories over the last week are making me a little in easy. I've been to cambo before and was fine, but it just sounds like a hell of a lot of tourists have been targeted recently. I'm a solo traveller and a pretty heavy drinker. I'm also a father and have no intention of being hung from a door knob, so pending advice from you guys who are actually over there I'm considering rescheduling.

Is it still as safe as ever over there, or has something suspicious been going on in cambo the last few weeks?
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05-06-2015 , 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by eyesforlies
Guys I'm due to be in Cambodia at the end of the month, but all these stories over the last week are making me a little in easy. I've been to cambo before and was fine, but it just sounds like a hell of a lot of tourists have been targeted recently. I'm a solo traveller and a pretty heavy drinker. I'm also a father and have no intention of being hung from a door knob, so pending advice from you guys who are actually over there I'm considering rescheduling.

Is it still as safe as ever over there, or has something suspicious been going on in cambo the last few weeks?
I'm not hearing from anyone about it being any worse, just maybe more reporting of incidents.
You should never leave your drink unattended in any tourist resort, or even in your room with a hooker. Tourists are targets in all countries as they are cashed up, and drunk people get targeted. Just be cautious.

And don't forget to take the doorknob off your room door and hide any rope.
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05-06-2015 , 08:21 PM
feels super safe tho
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05-06-2015 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by eyesforlies
Guys I'm due to be in Cambodia at the end of the month, but all these stories over the last week are making me a little in easy. I've been to cambo before and was fine, but it just sounds like a hell of a lot of tourists have been targeted recently. I'm a solo traveller and a pretty heavy drinker. I'm also a father and have no intention of being hung from a door knob, so pending advice from you guys who are actually over there I'm considering rescheduling.

Is it still as safe as ever over there, or has something suspicious been going on in cambo the last few weeks?
I've been here for 7 months now, drink heavily, walk around late at night and have had my girl here the whole time, and haven't had a single issue. Considering I moved from the US where a shooting occurs every 5 minutes, here is ridiculously safe, Lol/Spiv just like to post issues so people are aware.

But looking at the examples posted: I've been to pontoon hammered many times, as has a ton of people, you really have to be obliterated to not get into pontoon... like beyond drunk, this is not like the western world where they have alcohol responsibility, to be refused entry to a place here, you have to be paraletic/comatose... and even then tipping $5 will still get you in.

The second example, the russian who was coked out of his mind, bleeding from both orifices, doesn't take a genius to understand that he had someone there with him, one does not bleed from their ass after having a heart attack.

Now, looking at the demographic of people that live here, I can see why people are dying left and right, this really is a place where your health will suffer long term, the excess drinking, the hookers, the overall lack of inferstructure/poverty it takes its toll. A lot of guys retire here for this lifestyle, because they cant afford to retire in the modern world, when the money runs out, the above occurs.

if you are going off what the forum says about it being dangerous, just remember to think of your own lifestyle, if you are prone to blackout drinking, then this place will rear its ugly head. If you just follow basic life skills aka Take a tuk home after 1am, if it sounds too good to be true, it is etc you will be fine here....
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05-06-2015 , 11:43 PM
It's super safe. They closed down the organ harvesting ring 8 months ago

Police Shut Down Chinese Organ Trafficking Ring in Cambodia
Posted on 17 September 2014
By Andrew Rock

Last month, Cambodian police shut down an organ trafficking ring that was operating out of a Cambodian military hospital. Nine people were arrested, including the hospital director, the deputy director, three Chinese-Vietnamese nationals, and a Chinese physician and professor who had worked as the group’s consultant.

In China, state-sanctioned organ harvesting is commonplace. Prisoners on death row and prisoners of conscience are frequently killed for their organs. But the most prominent subset of the population killed for the purposes of organ harvesting are those of the Falun Gong spiritual discipline. It is estimated that approximately 60,000 of these individuals were killed between 2000 and 2008. Many claim that China is violating globally established ethical principles by allowing such practices to continue. And now, it looks like such behaviors are spreading to other countries.

Patients visiting the Cambodian facility were mostly Chinese and Vietnamese while donors were usually local Cambodians. The going rate for organs is high despite the meager sums paid to donors. For example, kidneys cost buyers around $35,000 to $40,000, while donors can expect only $5,000 in compensation.

“What’s at stake is that China is undermining ethical standards in other countries,” said Dr. Torsten Trey of Doctors Against Forced Organ Harvesting.

Soon after the investigation concluded, the Cambodian military refused to respond to further inquiries in an attempt to dismiss claims that this was a case of trafficking. Defense Minister Tea Banh maintained that the actions of those involved were completely voluntary.

These claims are largely questioned. “Since it’s a military hospital, not a private medical setting, it must be happening with the approval of the government or certain officials,” Dr. Trey explained.
http://globalbioethics.org/2014/09/p...g-in-cambodia/
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05-07-2015 , 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by jsplit
I've been here for 7 months now, drink heavily, walk around late at night and have had my girl here the whole time, and haven't had a single issue. Considering I moved from the US where a shooting occurs every 5 minutes, here is ridiculously safe, Lol/Spiv just like to post issues so people are aware.
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The Usa has a population of 318.9 million. Cambodia has a population of 15.14 million. The USA has a 5 per 100,000 intentional homicide rate. Cambodia has a 7 per 100,000. Keep in mind that theirs WAY more unreported homicides or lied about homicides rate. I'd bet its at least double this.

Also keep in mind theirs WAY more robberys and small crimes which also get unreported compared to first world countrys. Calling it ridiculously safe is a stretch. We have people who say they've been drugged etc when they go out while visiting who dont live in the country.

Most people travel to Cambodia and have no problems. I've also bought drugs in the ghetto of Detroit 50+ times when I was younger with no problems and it felt safe doesnt mean it is. The chances of something crazy happening are way higher when you go out in Cambodia then 1st world countrys.

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5
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05-07-2015 , 01:25 AM
Except for Japan, HK, SG, S Korea, Taiwan, life is very cheap in this region. For the most part you need to be looking for trouble but somewhere like Phnom Penh it's a little easier to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
In Thailand, scores of people die in public transportation accidents. In most countries this would be unacceptable, out here it's "buses crash, people die. That's what happens."
It's going to take awhile for that mentality to change.
Drink tourists doing drugs get killed sometimes, that's life out here.
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05-07-2015 , 01:25 AM
Detroit is first world??
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05-07-2015 , 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jsplit
you really have to be obliterated to not get into pontoon... like beyond drunk, this is not like the western world where they have alcohol responsibility, to be refused entry to a place here, you have to be paraletic/comatose... and even then tipping $5 will still get you in.
Thats true enough, although security aren't so relaxed inside. Think I'm up to 4 times being thrown out now. One time was where I went to lean against the bar and completely missed it. It was time to go home but there wasn't really any need to physically restrain me as I was escorted out lol not as if I'd glassed someone.

Rest of your post is spot on, guys are dieing here because of their lifestyles not because the place isn't safe.
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05-07-2015 , 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ITT666
Detroit is first world??
Detroit is like 3rd world in the 1st world. Detroit is one of the worst places in the first world obv. I grew up 30minutes from Detroit. I've met plenty of people who call Detroit a safe city in my area. I used to think it was when I was a younger idiot.
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05-07-2015 , 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TheLandlord
It's super safe. They closed down the organ harvesting ring 8 months ago

Police Shut Down Chinese Organ Trafficking Ring in Cambodia
Posted on 17 September 2014
By Andrew Rock

Last month, Cambodian police shut down an organ trafficking ring that was operating out of a Cambodian military hospital. Nine people were arrested, including the hospital director, the deputy director, three Chinese-Vietnamese nationals, and a Chinese physician and professor who had worked as the group’s consultant.

In China, state-sanctioned organ harvesting is commonplace. Prisoners on death row and prisoners of conscience are frequently killed for their organs. But the most prominent subset of the population killed for the purposes of organ harvesting are those of the Falun Gong spiritual discipline. It is estimated that approximately 60,000 of these individuals were killed between 2000 and 2008. Many claim that China is violating globally established ethical principles by allowing such practices to continue. And now, it looks like such behaviors are spreading to other countries.

Patients visiting the Cambodian facility were mostly Chinese and Vietnamese while donors were usually local Cambodians. The going rate for organs is high despite the meager sums paid to donors. For example, kidneys cost buyers around $35,000 to $40,000, while donors can expect only $5,000 in compensation.

“What’s at stake is that China is undermining ethical standards in other countries,” said Dr. Torsten Trey of Doctors Against Forced Organ Harvesting.

Soon after the investigation concluded, the Cambodian military refused to respond to further inquiries in an attempt to dismiss claims that this was a case of trafficking. Defense Minister Tea Banh maintained that the actions of those involved were completely voluntary.

These claims are largely questioned. “Since it’s a military hospital, not a private medical setting, it must be happening with the approval of the government or certain officials,” Dr. Trey explained.
http://globalbioethics.org/2014/09/p...g-in-cambodia/
So it's super safe as long as you aren't a poor Cambodian who wants to sell their organs, a Russian drug addict or someone who gets so drunk they pass out unconscious in a public place.
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05-07-2015 , 03:58 AM
made me think of this thread

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Patrick’s advice for travelers determined to make their way here was this, “Don’t do any research before coming to Cambodia. The things that I found online, Internet forums, they made me not want to come here. The expats focus on the negatives.”
I agree. My online research filled me with unnecessary anxieties. He spoke in jest about not doing any research, but I’d equally advise future travelers to stay clear of any threads or discussions that concentrate on the negative aspects of life here.
http://www.khmer440.com/k/2015/03/ad...e-in-cambodia/
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05-07-2015 , 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerSpiv
You can snort China White too. Just have to use a smaller dose.

The problem is that people are trying to buy Cocaine, but are being sold China White, and overdosing because they are sniffing Cocaine-sized lines.
This happened to my friend a while back in Loas.
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05-07-2015 , 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by samcx
Thats true enough, although security aren't so relaxed inside. Think I'm up to 4 times being thrown out now. One time was where I went to lean against the bar and completely missed it. It was time to go home but there wasn't really any need to physically restrain me as I was escorted out lol not as if I'd glassed someone.

Rest of your post is spot on, guys are dieing here because of their lifestyles not because the place isn't safe.
i love how they pour the drinks in that place. literally half whiskey, half mixer, and sometimes more like 60:40. at 2am after 6 hours of solid boozing i can barely finish one pontoon drink.
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05-07-2015 , 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by chasepoker
So it's super safe as long as you aren't a poor Cambodian who wants to sell their organs, a Russian drug addict or someone who gets so drunk they pass out unconscious in a public place.
You could get a job with the papers with your skills of making it the victims fault. Nobody has said the Russian with the butt bleeding was a junkie. In Cambo, they claim just about everyone does from a heart attack or suicide, even when your head has been severed and placed elsewhere.

Most die in their rooms, and there is no evidence that guy passed out in a public place and died from drinking too much, which quite an unusual way to expire.
Best to warn people to ne careful I think, rather than claim it's ridiculously safe.
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05-07-2015 , 11:52 AM
Not to mention the extremely high rate of crimes like theft, muggings, bag snatchings etc.

Anyone who says Cambodia is safe is just kidding themselves.

That's not to say you shouldn't go - it's a great place to visit. But you should take more precautions than you normally would while traveling. The people ITT saying that it's safer than The UK/US etc are just talking out of their arse.
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