yes, alcohol has no tax or virtually no tax on it. you can only drink so much alcohol though.

food depends and i would say on balance you'll spend the same or slightly more on food in phnom penh compared to bangkok. i'll agree that western food is cheaper in phnom penh, local restaurants are awful compared to the equivalent place in bangkok. bangkok is one of the great food cities in the world.

There are several modern cinemas in PP that show the new hollywood movies in 3D.

Right enough , thanks. There's two. Some dodgy reviews. But overall sounds ok.
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attract...hnom_Penh.html

shows what u know... its not the gas tank its water!!!! pulling a tuk tuk overheats the engine so uses loads of water so they all do that with a plastic container... so no BOOM!!! but sure BKK is more developed ,, PP is catching up and has its own charm

I don't think you understand what standard of living means.

You can buy a better standard of living for the same price in Cambodia than you can in Thailand. Because the cost of living is lower.

Sure, the average Cambodian earning 3000 baht a month might have a lower standard of living than the average Thai earning 7000, but you are not the average Cambodian, because you'll be living it large on western-style salary, in a country that's about 30%-50% cheaper than Thailand.

that's absurd.

*** rubs hands together in front of face in excitement***

been awaiting a clash of the 2 know it alls (spiv vs salty) for awhile now



trolol69 you already showed you dont know what you aretalking about when you tried to say hotels are the same price in both cities......... go do some more studying up from your parents basement and get your facts straight before trying to continue in this discussion



not sure how or why anyone would try and argue cambodia is more expensive then thailand

you can get $15 a night hotels in bangkok too. where did you stay? let me guess? around the golden sorya mall??

only molloscom infected sex pests want to stay in that area.

there are decent $15-$20 a night hotels all over phnom penh or anywhere in cambodia


i got a shoebox in bangkok for $35

hotels are around the same price for low and midrange hotels and possibly backpacker places usually a lot depends on location. But for value for money for 5 stars hotels bangkok has PP there ( bigger range of hotels more competive rates in BKK).
I think for what you get apartments in BKK are 20-30 percent cheaper then PP you can get super cheap places in cambodia but if you want decent western style apartments and living in safe areas you are looking at least 1k USD also utilities are much more expensive ex electricity for foreigners is 28c kw.

ouch

Standard of living is not just related to your income versus the native income. If you don't understand this statement, then explaining further is useless.

Consult a dictionary or textbook and then get back to us.

There are many accepted ways to qualify which countries have a higher standard of living, but your example is just pure rubbish. Do you generally just spew diarrhea out of your ass, or did you actually put thought into it?

Just wait until you get into a car accident in Cambodia and need immediate medical attention. If you have the money, they're going to ship your ass on a medivac to Thailand, while the poor die in what passes as a hospital in Cambodia ... yes, this is just one item that directly influences the standard of living.

Educate yourself.

K2D,

Do you actually have any knowledge, or are you just the biggest troll in the entire forum?

For the record, I'm not a know-it-all .. but I know my ****, while you seem to know nothing except banging cheap hookers for the lowest price possible.

In some respects, Cambodia can be far more expensive than Thailand, it just depends what creature comforts you require. However, since your idea of living is eating the cheapest street side food possible and living in what amounts to the city slum, then yeah, Cambodia hands down.

Heck, you can live in Manila for 40$ for a shared bed spacing arrangement and eat 7 php instant noodles three times a day, and bang the 50 year old hooker for 150-200 php, since that seems to be your thing. Enjoy!

i havent been here 10 years yet so my knowledge certainly nowhere as vast as yours, but i have been to each of these countries in 2013 and dont have any clue how people keep saying hotels are the same price in bangkok as in phnom penh, or that western food is cheaper in thailand than cambodia


and i also have something else going for me and thats that im not a condescending pr1ck who only comes here to talk down to everyone here like you do

where does Philippines rank?

angeles $800-$900ish

cebu/manila $1100ish


BUT could basically cut out all "entertainment" costs here if wanted because it would be so easy to get freebies so it could be done cheapest here for sure

Really miss reading your daily stories k2d

is that you, Dad?

true on walk-in rate but if you try agoda / latestays / booking.com / directrooms you can often get half off

funny cuz that hotel in bangkok is the only hotel ive ever used agoda for

SWF needs to learn how to use the quote function - For the readers sake please post your response UNDER the quote field.

Thanks

uhhh pooter salty is the supreme being here and if thats how he thinks it should be done WE are the ones who need to change not him

This a discussion that will never end.

Some things are definitely cheaper in Cambodia, everything locally produced or anything that involves a labor cost, like moto taxis etc.

Some things are definitely more expensive here, most imported foods, some luxury items as the market is so much smaller.

So for some people Cambodia is much cheaper, for some its more expensive.

Also standard of living is a subjective thing. Some people don't like the "smell of poor people". I guess they will be better of somewhere else. Some of us don't mind, and actually enjoy the company of very poor people. They are no less than the rest of us, maybe just less fortunate in life.

If you tend to like luxury and can afford it, and you don't really like poor people, and get really uncomfortable if you get pushed a bit out of your "comfort zone" Cambodia is definitely not your thing. Its more expensive and no fun. Find somewhere else.

Cambodia is not for everyone. But if you like a little adventure, and can live with the problems a third world country will throw at you, then its a really nice place.

I don't think anyone is saying they don't like Cambodia or poor people. Just comparing living standards a westerner can expect in each city and what is the best value for money.
PP should be compared to smaller Thai cities, as it isn't in the same league as Bkk on any level. Forget that they are both capital cities.

PP hotels are expensive for what you get. I paid $25 a night at The Tonle Sap / Pickled Parrot, and it doesn't even have an elevator, safe in room , or phone in room. The aircon was an ancient old ****ty thing , a mini fridge , **** TV. Most Ghs have bars on the windows in PP. I can better that in Pattaya by a mile.

What are the names of these $15 GHs in PP?

Imagine me not knowing the mechanical workings of a tuk tuk lol! Thanks for the info though. I will feel a bit safer.

Behave Compare the airports! PP won't have an airport like Suvarnabhumi in the next 50 years, and probably never.

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You can find good hotels in both cities at 15-20$ in both cities, with a bit of research. I stay at the same hotel when I go through both places. In Bangkok, Watana Mansion Hotel is a great 15 story hotel with mini fridge, bath tub, decent tv, restaurant + convenience store downstairs, massage (+extra) room service, balcony (the higher, the better), elevator and a big pool. It is also located by the train. As far as value, I cannot imagine better than this, even though I have not spent a significant amount of time in Bangkok, but always spend 1-3 days. 20$/night.

http://www.wattanahotel.com/

In Phnom Penh, you cannot get better than #9 Hotel at 15$/night. I have been to a couple of other hotels at 15$ and they were simply horrible. The value for this hotel is astonishing. You get a pool, excellent food, 3 stories to hang out with the first floor being the bar/restaurant, second a pool table and lounge area, third floor a small pool and bar/big screen tv. This hotel has 5 floors, no elevator. Rooms are small but cozy. The shower is basic. The flat screen tv is great. The rooms look very nice. No fridge though. And oh, it is located 1 block away from Nagaworld.

http://number9hotel.com/

I seriously can't understand how anyone could think PP is more expensive than BKK.