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09-11-2013 , 12:08 AM
djle got this as a freebie for helping me out and wanted me to share it but i didnt wanna, but i not want him stay angry me so


my water bill has been way to friggin high at my hotel, more than electric, i do piss constantly but still....... so ive started pissing in a 1.5 liter bottle to limit myself to 2 or 3 flushes per day


im sure everyone remembers my sock situation when i first got to manila (how could you ever forget that TR?) well the socks i overpaid for have started to break the elastic isnt holding so they always fall down into my shoe..... being the genius i am i thought maybe putting a rubber band around them might keep them held up....... confirmed genius

Last edited by kick2dante; 09-11-2013 at 12:09 AM. Reason: just a lil sum sum for the OMG WHY STEALIN BACK THIS THREAD crowd
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09-11-2013 , 12:31 AM
I have a very good memory...your flushing conservation is nothing new. Why don't you just not flush if #1? Still using public bathrooms mostly?
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09-11-2013 , 12:40 AM
that was from pattaya and i dont think my water bill was to out of control there

i tried only flushing after every other piss but the toilet bowl started to stain and the room smelled

im in the philippines i hold my piss till i leave my hotel then when walking down the street duck behind a jeepney like the locals
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09-11-2013 , 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by kick2dante
dont really think there is anything wrong about staking me in hypers, im one of the few really aggro regs in those games and they are extremely fish filled

staking me at anything on microgaming other than full ring cash where i can pot control and avoid all ins is another story
There is something wrong with trying to play $22 hyper's off a $500 staked roll though.
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09-11-2013 , 12:55 AM
well i think ive done better in the 11s and 22s than the 5s where people dont have fold buttons

but A) i didnt know what the size of the stake was

B) the first time i asked him if 5.50, 11s and 22s were ok i got no response so i played a few 22s the first day, then after day 1 i asked him again and he said he didnt want me doing the 22s so i didnt play another

C) even the first day or on my own money i rarely play the 22s, it seems to me that there are severe cold rushes and severe hot rushes in these so when im cold i try and play mostly 5s, in the rarest of rare moments (talking like american chick let me touch her boob rare) where its going well i try to play mostly 11s with a few 22s, when its just meh i play 5s and 11s, think the most 22s ive played in one day is maybe 6 or 7

Last edited by kick2dante; 09-11-2013 at 01:01 AM.
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09-11-2013 , 03:28 AM
How many threads are you going to **** up?

Nothing good can come out of it if you stake this "slightly" mentally redarded weirdo and even not setting certain rules.

In staking world 50/50 is very generous (btw not mentioning k2d is certainly not winning player in long run), so lets handle it as 50/50 deal. PE response should be treated as correct exaple how it should play out.

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Originally Posted by PeoplesElbow
the thing K2D does not understand is this

profit split 50/50
There is no profit so nothing is split and -$200 put in the profit and loss


Rake back split 50 /50
not sure how much rakeback was earned but lets say $80, K2D think he is entitled to 50% of that but from what it looks like he has taken it all. But in staking if you are in make up like K2D is, the backer gets 100% of the rakeback to cover the loses. But K2D is not giving him anything because djle ended the stake. Even though djle had some legitimate reasons too.

its a a bit wishy washy but im here as acting mod to sort the situation out.
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09-11-2013 , 04:33 AM
k2d why not try a site like indiegogo for crowdsourcing? I think you'd be successful there.
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09-11-2013 , 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by nutsfl0pper
LOL. This is an awesome new level of unprofessional and pathetic. All around dopiness by both sides. wp guys

Just walk away from the whole thing and never stake or be staked again...
+1, both have different versions of events on this, which is a loan rather than a formal stake

k2d:

- 50% of winnings + pending bonus
- no makeup
- will ship bonus share when a) bonus unlocked or b) $500 loan busto
- if stake cancelled before a) or b), will ship winnings >0 and zero bonus share

djle:

- 50% of winnings
- no makeup
- if winnings<0, 50% rackback (lol) share
- receive effective rakeback $ on request from k2d's roll prior to bonus completion

it's just the word of one guy against another without a signed contract. we'd need all PMs and skype logs and aint nobody got time for dat itt
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09-11-2013 , 11:42 AM
That blew up pretty quick

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09-11-2013 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by obviousTROLL

In staking world 50/50 is very generous (btw not mentioning k2d is certainly not winning player in long run), so lets handle it as 50/50 deal. PE response should be treated as correct exaple how it should play out.
so "do what you think is fair" suddenly should turn into a normal staking deal? if thats what he wanted (which it isnt so i dont know why you think we should suddenly switched to that) he should have said it before, im not even sure i would do that....... actually i have an offer from another guy that is like a real professional staker but its 50/50 split with them taking half the rakeback plus makeup and then after a month we negotiate new terms........ i can do this right now if i want

but i dont trust microgaming so i doubt im going to, i dont want to keep losing on this crap site and then owe lots of makeup and either do it for nothing or want to quit and have them posting my details in the bad reviews thread


fwiw jspill by far has the best grasp at what is going on here like always, only thing i will change is he didnt have to stake me all the way until i cleared the bonus or lose all the money, he just needed to make an honest effort at it, and quitting when effectively down $65 after 3 days wasnt really making an effort imo, just 3 more days would have had me a lot closer to clearing the bonus which i could clear with my own money and if he were down like 400 and wanted to quit that would be understandable

Last edited by kick2dante; 09-11-2013 at 03:41 PM. Reason: 7 years isnt long run to some people i guess
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09-11-2013 , 06:00 PM
7 years is irrelevant because the game was so easy those first 5 years even fish like u could profit. Times have changed and they will continue too, but your mental capacity and poker thought process has not.

**Real Cambodia related question**

Has anyone here played at Royal Cambodia Phnom Penh Golf Club? thoughts on course and conditions?
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09-11-2013 , 06:15 PM
so my depositing $250 onto moneybookers a year ago and not having to deposit again until yesterday just gets overlooked? and only having to deposit again because of this stupid f'ing site

the games at the buy ins i play have hardly changed and never really will
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09-11-2013 , 07:03 PM
You've done well if you've travelled in Asia for a year on purely poker.

A few of us should chip in some money to stake Dante , depending on the deal.

And it needs a new thread if Dante isn't in Cambo.
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09-11-2013 , 07:15 PM
rut rooo here it comes
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09-11-2013 , 07:35 PM
I think its funny of all the games you could stake someone for you would choose hyper turbos as a backer. By far the game with the lowest ROI and highest variance. I understand theres rakeback here but you couldnt stake someone for these and expect it to be profitable.
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09-12-2013 , 04:19 AM
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09-12-2013 , 08:44 AM
I believe that Dante is a breakeven/slight winning player. He is still nitty as **** as his stats suggest but imo he is at worst a small loser. This is for every other game except hypers and cash games. He wont make much but with his money spending, he can make a decent life in asia having sex unlike the states. Hypers is also doable as long as he has the bankroll imo but more questionable.


If Dante is going to continue to talk about the stake and try to skew/falsify things, I will find a need to respond.

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Originally Posted by kick2dante
give me my money back or give me my f'ing money back you scammer

I have in no time during our transaction called you a scammer and to give me my money back esp with the harsh words you added in. Only thing close to it is for you to just ship me whatever is left over of the stake and what you owe me. Perhaps my last email was harsh as I was fed up. That about it. That was indeed within my rights.

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Originally Posted by kick2dante
djle got this as a freebie for helping me out and wanted me to share it but i didnt wanna, but i not want him stay angry me so
The rackback was completely your suggestion and i said no such thing. My stance was always it was an unfair stake and do what you think is fair. You added it in yourself. If you wouldn't have, I would of still shipped knowing it was an unfair stake just as I did have. I dont get how he can completely make things up like this. His mind is so ****ed up.

This is what it is like dealing with Dante, his mind thinks of one thing or the worst compared to what is happening. Compound that to his incompetency of not being able to provide me one thing during the whole time.

What tilts me the most is he is profiting 272 from this incident while I am still owed 136 more and in his mind its a okay.

Last edited by djle2; 09-12-2013 at 08:49 AM.
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09-12-2013 , 09:00 AM
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This is what it is like dealing with Dante, his mind thinks of one thing or the worst compared to what is happening.
This comes as a surprise to nobody except you. Normally I would feel sorry for someone in your situation, but anyone who could think Dante is someone worth staking is going to be scammed of their money sooner or later anyway.
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09-12-2013 , 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by kick2dante
he just needed to make an honest effort at it, and quitting when effectively down $65 after 3 days wasnt really making an effort imo, just 3 more days would have had me a lot closer to clearing the bonus which i could clear with my own money and if he were down like 400 and wanted to quit that would be understandable
He keeps mentioning this in some of his other post. This wasnt the reason for my cancle/hold at all. This was an issue that you believe that I dont get 50% of the rackback if I we stopped here and than when I had good reason to be concerned due to incompetency.

I think at worst your a slight loser[hypers questionable], we could of kept going if you got your **** together and as you said been only down 65. This was about the 136 you think is right to essentially steal from me because you think its null and void because it got stopped short due to your doing.

By his own words, he will be close/capable of clearing the bonus so Im curious if he will shipp my portion but doubtful. He returned 299 to me so its not like its game changing money when he has 600 of his own already [what he told me] or he cant deposit more. Im sure he will clear the portion of the rackback that he started on. He would be compelled to as it would be a complete waste of money staring him the face. Unless he completly runs bad, he will break even with my portion of the money in it.

Hes down to like 3500 life/bankroll so maybe he is unconsciously trying to grasp from any and everywhere. **** getting real and desparate on him having to go home.
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09-12-2013 , 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerSpiv
This comes as a surprise to nobody except you. Normally I would feel sorry for someone in your situation, but anyone who could think Dante is someone worth staking is going to be scammed of their money sooner or later anyway.
No surprise at all, I just want to let it be known as it strengthens my case for his reasons to take my portion of the rackback. I had just cause to hold/cancle and he thinks that due to this, he can withhold my rackback.

If he didnt make that initial post and this didnt go public and he did return my rackback, I would have have continued after he was able to give me 1.daily reports with number of games played, win/lose, rackback, 2. histories 3. get on messenger [not so important but would be required eventually]. Now after all this though, even if he did return the rackback. Not so much.

Last edited by djle2; 09-12-2013 at 09:18 AM. Reason: still dont think hes a scammer just misguided
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09-12-2013 , 10:07 AM
in all honesty after seeing him on the money bubble of a 9 man stt non turbo where i was at the same table on stars a while back when he was chip lead and had an 11% pfr it was obvious he really has no clue. how a clueless nit like that could expect to make money playing hypers is beyond me.
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09-12-2013 , 10:17 AM
BUT! he put 250 on a site years ago and only now is having to deposit more.

Last edited by Pooter; 09-12-2013 at 10:19 AM. Reason: something about Vagas too
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09-12-2013 , 11:24 AM
djle you took my "djle got this as a freebie......." comment completely out of context (im honestly not sure you actually read things i say to you which could be what is causing most of the drama)

i wasnt talking about poker/thestake/rakeback at all

i was talking about me telling you i was pissing in a bottle and you wanted me to share that on here



i love how people take like a few hands i post or in scrooskos case one sng i played with him months ago and take that to mean they know exactly how i play

im one of the few really aggressive regs in these, if anything im to aggressive because i seem to constantly be walking into big hands in the one or two big hand behind situations
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09-12-2013 , 12:12 PM
bbv is in another forum

Last edited by orange; 09-12-2013 at 01:03 PM. Reason: inb4: LOL A4 shove on 10-20
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09-12-2013 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by kick2dante
djle you took my "djle got this as a freebie......." comment completely out of context (im honestly not sure you actually read things i say to you which could be what is causing most of the drama)

i wasnt talking about poker/thestake/rakeback at all
There is no mention about bottle pissing looking back 30+ post from that post. Your crazy talking to yourself or the mods deleted it. To me, its as if you were talking about rakeback.

But anyway. As regards to bottle pissing, I asked you if I can tell about it at the beginning of our stake, you never responded and I dropped it and never brought it up again. So in your mind, I wanted you to share it and you did even though you didnt want to because u thought this would appease my 'anger' when I was fed up with you days later? hahaha oh man.
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