the ones in Hua Hin are!!

so new month girl responds to text tonight, but says she needs to talk to me

uh oh


she comes over at 3 looking better than ever, usually doesnt dress all that sexy, today is black dress that shows off everything


sits on bed and can tell she wants to say something but at the same time doesnt want to and is stalling

eventually she says that she is scared that since i go with to many other girls and she doesnt know if i use condom with them or not she doesnt want to do no condom anymore

she also didnt understand the month deal and thought i was just paying her $10 each time recently, that one was easily enough explained and she got over that pretty fast


the no condom thing wasnt so easy..........


i beg, i plead, i tell her she can trust me, that i dont want HIV either so i use condom with other girls, she knows some of the girls ive been with so i tell her to check with them, ive told her before that there is only one other girl i dont use with (my fav) and that she is in kampongcham and i will let her know when she comes back and get tested again if she wants


she still says she is scared


i tell her i will do anything she needs me to do to make her believe, jokingly say ill take pictures, or make movie and make sure to zoom in on condom


i pull over the trash can and show her all the wrappers that are in there

i tell her i will get tested once a week if she wants


eventually after 30 minutes of begging she says that she believes me, but i wont know if true for a little while because she told me before she came over she didnt feel like boom booming tonight


i hope she does, as hot of a girl thats out here agreeing to go rubberless was like one of the greatest things that ever happened to me, i really really really really really really really really really really really really hope i dont lose that

Pretty scary that the ten dollar hooker is the responsible party in this relationship.

I hope she agrees to you taking pics though so you finally get a camera.

start chattin up the new good girl thats all it takes u dont have to just ask but chat with them if possible
eye them
if they willin u find out soon enuf
u eye them walk past and then they disappear
show some more interest and u get em
if u can chat with her when u see her make the effort to go do a little chat

O man literally laughed out loud.

K2D you're a ****ing mess. Don't change a thing.

K2D - its not cool.

I used to think you were a nice guy, with a good heart, eager to see the world. Not so much anymore.

Do you remember the french guy someone mentioned a few pages back. Apparantly drunk driving and thus killing a father and causing his daughter to lose a leg. I don't know if it is true that he was drunk, but if he was, I hope he will spend long time in a cambodian prison cell. People that drink and drive often think they are oh so cool, and nothing will happen to them. And even if it does, then so be it, as they want to live life to the fullest. Well, guess what. I don't care if they die, but what they do, is that they endanger the lifes of innocent people. They show absolutely no respect and compassion for other peoples life and other peoples feelings. How do you think that little girl feels now? No father and only one leg. Her life completely ruined. There is no social services here. No job for her. No food. No future husband. She will most likely end up as a beggar somewhere. Because of some jackass (still assuming the story about drink driving is true). Driving while drunk is a despicable behavior towards other people.

Guess what, k2d?

I find your attempts to go rubberless with the girls to be in the same category or maybe even worse. Maybe you don't care about what viruses you get or don't care about getting old. But they do. Currently more than 25% of these girls will end up with HIV. Again, no social welfare, no treatment. Their families and friends will most likely send them away and never talk to them again, because most people are uneducated and don't know enough about HIV. So they get scared. The girls will end up alone, and suffer a horrible death at a much too young age, if they get this disease.

Every decent human being with a good heart should try to get that percentage down to 15% instead of trying to push it to 35% or more. It is people like you, that constantly beg them of tempt them with money, that will cause some of them so much suffering. Maybe you will not be the one infecting them. Maybe you will. But once they get tempted once or twice, they may get used to it. Or even believe that it is not so dangerous after all. When a girl is sensible enough to say no, because she is frightened, and then you try to change her mind, like that - that is showing a complete lack of respect of the working girls life.

Shame on you!

They should be allowed to be in the trade, maybe end up married to a foreigner (customer) in a few years down the road and have some kids. Enjoy the remaining 60 years of their lives. Not risk throwing it away because someone like you has a lack of character.

I will see you next week and help you out as I promised. But then you are on your own. I will no longer be part of your adventure here.

/signing out of this thread for a while

Wabby

"/signing out of this thread for a while"

Probably because you know how ******ed that post was

congrats k2d, you are now more disliked then me in the travel section.

not even close lol

at least he pays his cheap hookers something

Wow. I dont know what to say here. I just started following this thread a week ago by reading all of the second half and all seemed cool. BUt this is a shady.

This girl has shown real concern and all you do is worry about rubberless trying to convince/trick an uneducated women who prob is simple enough to convince to follow through. She is not convinced I bet. If she does follow through she will be anxious each time and youll prob will see a change in her. If not she is not knowledgeable to understand the ramifications.

I have no doubt one day you will get a std one day but that is your choice, same as the girl who is doing it. Now you are just a sad soul who I would assume who would continue to go rubberless when you do contract a serious viral std.

That's one hell of an accomplishment!

anyone willing to live in Cambo is of dubious character... IMO

seems these girls' biggest problem is they forgot its 2012, not 1969

ouch, for the first time i really wish i could take back a post, wabby cutting me off would really make things difficult for me and i hope i can change his mind, and this is why i disagree with him


i dont go rubberless with every girl, or any other girls, ive been with 30 in asia and have not used with 2 of them, one of them is in kampongcham and i already told this new girl that if i go with my fav again without one i will get tested before going with her, and this time ill get a real test at the red cross not the BS one i just took


i have been so open here i think people should believe what i say, so if i really am using a condom with every other girl and am clean at this point how am i going to get it to pass it on to her?


if i was lying to her and begged every girl to go rubberless than i would 100% agree with wabby that i was scum, but thats not the case and im not putting this girl at harm



and djle how am i trying to trick her? i am being 100% honest with her in every thing i say and am willing to take whatever steps/precautions she wants me to, there is no tricking going on



sigh already depressed day just got worse, hopefully wabby will reconsider after an email

Are you going to get tested for sperm motility also? Getting her pregnant is far more likely to **** up her life than an STD is.

Pulling out doesn't always work, and I would venture a guess that she's not on any other sort of birth control.

hey K2d dont feel depressed, you just made a boo bo, im sure every person reading this thread has done something they dont like and regret. Just learn from it and take the advice of everyone in this this thread.

My advice, both get tested together at a proper place, if your both clean, raw dog her till her kunt drops off imo. Obv get her on the pill in case she has a baby or something.

she wont take pills, ive tried to get her to take any sort of birth control and she wont do it, bring it up every time she wont budge

i brought up last night that she needed to worry more about a baby from me than HIV and she laughed and called me crazy


thing is i know im not doing anything wrong, im not putting her at risk of HIV because i always use condoms with other girls, its very unlikely id get it even if i didnt, but i do so..........

unless wabby thinks im lying about that (which i would be surprised that anyone in this thread would think im lying considering how open ive been the entire time) i dont understand why he had such a strong negative reaction to this

getting a test at a non legit place is already trickery imo. either way, i think your a straight shooter and do believe you. How you see things vs reality is another story though.

Plus these girls are not educated on this sort of stuff and you are taking advantage of it. the facts to me is she is really concerned about it and you are still convincing a girl to when she doesnt really understand all things necessasry to make a choice of her own.

This is sarcasm, right?

Nothing in k2d's posts makes me think of him as a nice guy.

Seriously, *begging* to go bareback? Dante, that's sad.

Wabby confirmed ******ed.

Seriously, dude, that is one of the dumbest posts I've seen in a long long time.

This thread moves on from mild/good exciting stories to a mini soap opera

Its going to turn out that Wabby is this chicks father!

5*

ok hard to argue about the getting the test at the non legit place, if i had barebacked a lot of girls i would consider it far more of a dick move, but having only been with one girl less than 20 times who had recently been tested herself (yes, naively maybe, but yes i believe her when she says that, i wouldnt believe most of the girls out here but i do believe her) my odds of having it are under 1% imo

i would have gone to a more legit place if i had thought there was any reasonable chance i had it


as far as her not understanding HIV, i disagree i bet she knows more about it than i do, probably most of us in this thread as well, she is a smart girl (taught herself english without a teacher) and has researched HIV a lot

sigh, i didnt share this before because i didnt want haters going off on me for being an idiot and barebacking a confirmed AIDS case but...........


3 or 4 years ago she weighed a lot more , she showed me pictures and didnt even look the same, she started to lose a little weight and then when one of her friends went to get an HIV test she decided to get one as well

the test came back negative, but for unknown reasons her friend started to spread rumors that it was positive, so everyone thought she had it, this caused her to get depressed, she quit eating and lost a lot more weight, smoked 2-3 packs of cigarettes a day and never ate

this only made the rumors stronger and eventually she couldnt take everyone gossiping about her anymore and ran off to siem reap by herself, lived there for a few months started eating again, got her **** together and came back

things are better for her now but she is still obviously depressed you can tell she isnt a happy person (why i was worried she might have done something bad when her phone went off last week), also being that she used to be fat(ter) she has a distorted body image and doesnt even realize she is as hot as she is


im not gonna go that far but i definitely disagree with him in this instance since i do use condoms with every other girl

the thing that sucks is that wabbys opinion is about the only one in this thread that matters because he helps me out with money via transfers and has been as kind and helpful as i ever could have hoped for

him having such a negative reaction to this is terrible for me and thats why i for the first time wish i could take a post back

anxiously awaiting his response to my email, but i fear his mind is already made up and he wont read my response with an open mind


on the other hand your kindness shows every time you decide to pop into this thread

Hiv scare is so blown out of proportion. Its like an asteroid hitting the earth... when it happens everything gets ****ed but there are much more immediate worries. You need do your research on other stds and see if they are worth the risk.

Also with the dick per day ratio this girl is probably getting having her get tested once is not going to mean much because it takes so long to detect hiv that she could have already gotten it by the time she even takes the test but it wont show up.

^^

exactly. Notice I never said HIV and used std's and yes you can be infected with many viruses and not detect them or show symptoms for a long time.

Either way, im not here to hate. Compared to the average expat in asia, hes one of the better ones so w/e. Guys choose and girl chooses, knowledgeable or not, when it gets down to it, guy chooses to be a jonh and girls chooses to be a hooker. They get the jist of it.

To dantes defense regarding Wabby, I think he's blowing it to out of proportion. My reall issue isnt the barebacking. Their both stupid adults. Its trying to convince her to other wise when she was concerned not to. Asian girls in asian countries are not able to make an informed decision imo smart or not.

jesus christ make it ****ing stop.

this will sound like a very naive comment, but i would guess this girls "dick per day" number is lower than almost any other girl ive been with over here


this isnt me trying to say she is super clean or that she never goes with other guys, i can easily admit that ive probably been sloppy 7ths with both m3thie and shack girl before, and my fav would tell me she was with another guy earlier in the day, then get a call during round 2 and tell me she had to go with another guy when we were finished


but i would bet this girl is with under 4 different guys a week, and im an ubernit that wouldnt put money on a prop bet unless i was pretty sure, imo it seems pretty easy to tell who the hard core go go go get that money girls are and she doesnt seem like that


as far as the STDs go we have gone over this 100 times, i know the risks, ive only used no rubber with 2 of 30 girls and there are plenty of guys thats never use them over here and some of them never get burned, i dont run that good so im sure ill get them all eventually


but #YOLO