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Old 04-03-2011, 01:10 AM   #1
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Living in Cambodia and turning Pro

This is my story and if anyone wants advice on joining me then let me know.
I’m originally from the UK, London and have been playing poker for around 6 years to varying success but as it was to secondary work never really committed. Then the economic down turn happened I sold business (a night club) and I thought I’d take a couple of years out in a cheap foreign country.

I live on the Cambodian coast in a place called Sihanoukville, about four hours drive from the capital Phnom Peng. It’s a beautiful little spot with 5 beaches and with the Thai border 4 hours drive to the west and Vietnam about 5 hours to the east. It has a vibrant night life, with a number of clubs, beach bars and western and local restaurants (and 3 casinos). The sex trade is a lot less prevalent than Thailand and the place has a mixture of backpackers passing through, holiday makers from Phnom Peng and a large friendly expat community.

So why Cambodia.
• It’s cheap (half the price of Thailand), I stay in a 2 bedroom western style apartment, all mod cons, 24 hour security sea views $340 a month. A one bedroom bedsit in the same building is $120 a month. A meal out varies from $3.50 – about $7 for top end, beer is 50c-$1 a glass.
• Language isn’t a problem most Cambodians in the major cities speak English.
• Visas, unlike Thailand you can extend your visa indefinitely without leaving the country $250 a year.
• Internet, now is fine, i have ½ a mega bite which is $60 a month and a 3g card for back up should either the internet go down while playing or a power occurs. Power cuts do happen infrequently but all that’s needed is a back up battery or a laptop.
• It’s safe, like any major city anywhere in the world there is crime, just don’t wonder down dark streets at 4am you wouldn’t in New York!
• The people are lovely, not yet obliterated by western values or capitalism.
• The expat community is varied and very friendly to new comers.
• The currency is the Riel but the dollar is more widely used
• No tax
• Live poker is available in casinos and a few low homegames
• The weather is hot from October to June, June to September is the wet season which while still hot it rains to varying degrees.

I think Pro maybe a little strong, I play 3 hours a day mainly in the morning (+7 GMT) and last month 90 hours made me $900, mainly I play SnG. $900 is hefty amount here, waitress earn around $100 a month and western bar managers around $400 a month. In the UK i would have to earn $3000 a month and have a fraction of the life style. I normally finish with poker by 10am and this leaves me the rest of the day to visit the beach, take a boat ride to Island, ride my bike, watch movies, study poker, or just visit friends for a beer.
I have yet to find anyone else out here who is supporting their lifestyle from internet and poker and would either like to find someone who is or encourage someone to come and join and me. I’d be happy to help anyone thinking of making the move and it would be great to have someone to speak poker with, especially if they were at a more advanced level than me
It could be ideal for someone who can make $1-2000 a month but not enough for Pro and a decent western lifestyle, or someone who has to grind silly hours to make a western style wage.
So ask me anything about me, my poker or living in Cambodia

Iao

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Old 04-03-2011, 01:11 AM   #2
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Old 04-03-2011, 01:16 AM   #3
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It’s safe, like any major city anywhere in the world there is crime, just don’t wonder down dark streets at 4pm you wouldn’t in New York!
You mean 4am I hope. I hope. :P

Sounds like a great life bro. Few questions.

Was it at all hard for you to give up UK life and move to Cambodia? Friends, family, sentimental value?

How'd you meet your friends in Cambodia?
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Old 04-03-2011, 01:17 AM   #4
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Is 1/2 mgb speed really enough for playing online poker?
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Old 04-03-2011, 01:18 AM   #5
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Re: Living in Cambodia and turning Pro

Maybe you shouldve started this thread here http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/92/travel/

Sounds like an awsome place, i was interested in thailand before but the visa thing wasnt looking too fun.

Is online poker legal there?
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Old 04-03-2011, 01:19 AM   #6
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The sex trade is a lot less prevalent than Thailand
Count me out
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Old 04-03-2011, 01:22 AM   #7
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Yeah I meant 4am

Well in the 4 months i have had 3 friends from England come over and visit and a few more planned as it is a great place to visit. Skype helps me keep in touch with freinds and family as well. I plan to go back at least once a year mayhbe more if the poker is going well. Meeting people isn't a problem most expats own business, bars and restaruants and will happily chat to new comers. There also a few low stake poker nights happening a weekly football game of expats vs locals. I am also engaged to a lovely local girl I met here.
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Old 04-03-2011, 01:26 AM   #8
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Is online poker legal in Cambodia, well lets start with it is illegal in Thailand and most sites will block you playing unless you hide your IP. Here they don't so from the sites prespective its ok. The police im not sure but they won't come to your house and look at your hade drive and they don't scan the internet.
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Old 04-03-2011, 01:30 AM   #9
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I dunno I feel like Cambodia is a place where police can easily be bribed. Who's to say someone doesn't pick up on your poker playing and bribe security and follow you.
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Old 04-03-2011, 01:33 AM   #10
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How on earth would anyone find out that you are playing poker online in your home if you want to keep it a secret?
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Old 04-03-2011, 01:33 AM   #11
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Re: Living in Cambodia and turning Pro

It isnt that safe of a place like you think it is and it isnt a major city altough it grow bigger the last few years its still a small city where the crime rate is huge compared with other city's of this size.

For the rest its indeed a very nice place to travel to if you
dont get involved with the locals to much...so maybe stay away from the casino's there and play in Phnom Phen if you wana play live.

I regulary visit the place and altough its beatyfull i dont have the need to make it my homebase just for the safety reasons and the huge coruption o i forgot to mention the huge amount of drugaddicts.
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Old 04-03-2011, 01:51 AM   #12
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Re: Living in Cambodia and turning Pro

i was thinking about going to that very city for a few months next year. I'm not sure if i want to get an apartment or hotel for my stay. what's your opinion? do the hotels have stable internet for you to use?

I also heard there's some sort of border dispute with Thailand, do you see any safey issues with this in the future?
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Old 04-03-2011, 01:56 AM   #13
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• The people are lovely, not yet obliterated by western values or capitalism.
Sweet, the "Nobel Savage" canard.

GL OP.
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Old 04-03-2011, 02:16 AM   #14
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is polygamy legal in cambodia? I want to buy a large mansion and start a family with 10 wives.
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Old 04-03-2011, 02:49 AM   #15
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It isnt that safe of a place like you think it is and it isnt a major city altough it grow bigger the last few years its still a small city where the crime rate is huge compared with other city's of this size.

For the rest its indeed a very nice place to travel to if you
dont get involved with the locals to much...so maybe stay away from the casino's there and play in Phnom Phen if you wana play live.

I regulary visit the place and altough its beatyfull i dont have the need to make it my homebase just for the safety reasons and the huge coruption o i forgot to mention the huge amount of drugaddicts.
Ziggi I'm not sure where you hung out to see all this problems.

If anyone has only ever lived at home with your mum then its probably not the place for you. I grew up in London and worked in the night club industry so interms of saftey I've downgraded in threat level. My friends have been for 5 years plus without incident.

Of the 3 Casino's, one is attached to a large hotel, and the other is geared ter towards foriegners (having an unwritten no locals policy). The Manager is Korean and organises friendly $1/2 games occasionally.

Coruption is rife but shouldn't effect anyone either on holiday, living here but not owning a bussines. As for drug addicts I'm sure they are here but I haven't found them.

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