LOL at only tipping when winning, the thought process/play is pure gold though... It used to be bearable when you would post a ton of pics but now its just blah.

And what have you contributed to this thread?

Besides trolling, that is.

I agree tbh.. The trip reports + pics are good, I enjoy reading them and appreciate the effort you put into them.. But really, I don't think anyone here wants to read about your shortstack limp/jam hit n runs anymore...

This is one of the very few threads I still read on 2+2, mainly because I love PTs content but WMs posts about poker are becoming a bit cringy for me... Losing $200 in 1 hour.. That's not even 1 buyin ;o IMO you should make a thread in PG&C or in the blog section, this thread isn't really the place for "strategy" posts...

edit: and before you tell me to add to ignore list.. I tried that but people are responding which means I gotta read your posts to understand the replies

Test.

Test.

I've been reading this thread almost everyday for like 5 years...

Let him be. When was the last time you saw someone this enthusiastic about poker... Or throwing HU4Rollz challenges left and right... Of course, being TOO much of a nit is never a good thing...

Don't be too negative.. besides,where can you found something good to read nowdays (hooker story and pic,poker info and strategy) at one same thread.. embrace it

Thanks for the support and encouragement.

I was quite tilted when I got feedback that I have been tilting players and confusing the dealers with my antics.

I admit that's valid feedback and it got me in quite a bit of trouble before.

This happened in Manila. After putting in raising chips, I announced "call" as a joke and the floor was called. They ruled it as a call. My poker buddies told me I got the wrong ruling because of racism; I was non-local up against a bunch of locals. I was knocked out on that very hand.

Of course, my haters (aka trolls) said that "I totally deserved it" etc.

?? how should anyone know if you're joking or not? obv opens up room to angle...

verbal announcement is always binding or am I really missing something here?

Dude if it makes you feel any better, i think you are one of the most hardworking person i have ever seen. If i hadn't known better, i would have thought that you are either the owner or a shareholder to have invest so much time into the room. The room is lucky to have you and i think that most of the players think the same. I hope things keep going well for you!!!

P.s. more degen posts please.

U 2004 Agree well said especially more degen posts Please.

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So that is the rule that you could move your whole stack over the line and just say call??
Not trying to be smart just would really love to know the Rules, and I do understand that each place has its own interpretations on some. Is there such a thing as a Rule Book. Razz can attest that I am a Donkey.

Love the WM poker strat and insight, please keep it up but the habitual hit and run is a little concerning. I am a bit conflicted though as your style is like an online Russian short stacker which is the nut low.

That putting chips in and saying call is definitely angly even if unintended. I would have to rule that if the player intended to call but put in raising chips (meaning forward motion and released the chips onto the felt) that he is committed to a min raise at the least if not all of them but can see how some rooms may rule by verbal.

This issue had been debated to death before I brought it up here.

Conclusion is that once chips are across the betting line, the bet stands. Any further verbal action will not change the bet.

Please don't flog a dead horse.

Define hit and run first. In my books, it's cashing out immediately after stacking off an opponent for a significant pot.

I very rarely do that in live poker since it's pretty rude to do so. If I feel that I have won enough for the session, I make it a point to play at least a few more orbits before I cash out. If that is hit-and-run to you, then give me back the time/energy/money I have spent to play those extra orbits.

If I were to do a true hit-and-run style, I think I would have already been banned from the games at RK.

Cashing out to "protect your winnings" after a pot before you are even at 100bb is a hit n run in my books ^^ Especially for someone who plays poker every day, for a recreational who plays once in a while this may be acceptable.. IMO cashing out immediately after a 1000bb pot when there are other deep stacks is more acceptable than subtly cashing out after a 100bb pot...

I'm definitely biased on this topic as I am a degen gambler and I hate playing with/against a shortstack, and I know most of the fun players (atleast at RK) are the same.

When I first played at RK there was another reg doing the same thing, it really annoyed me and I know it annoyed the main fun player in the game at the time as we spoke about it on a night out before... He doesn't do it anymore tho, I guess after the "Cya tomorrow" comments as soon as he doubles up..

Anyway, trying not to hate too much, but what you are doing is hit n running in my books.. If you start planning your escape after you double up, do the ole fake phone call thing, doesn't matter if you wait a few orbits or not, then it's a hit n run... Just my opinion, which I know many wont agree with

The Riverking has no rule against hitting and running, whatever the definition. In fact I can't think of a single poker room that I have ever played in or heard of that has such a rule. The general philosophy is that in any room that collects rake, players should feel free to come and go as they please. As a floor manager I don't like it because it is difficult to keep an accurate count of players in a multi table situation where I'm trying to keep the tables balanced. As a player I used to do it all the time but have grown to dislike the practice, in myself and other players. All of this having been said, I'm not saying one way or the other that WarMage does this. I just wanted to clarify the room's rules.

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I could be misinterpreting but it seems like there is a hint of guilty conscience here.
I'm the type of person that goes by my gut and even if I or someone else can explain why something is not wrong but my gut is telling me flat out that it's shady I can't ignore that.
That's just me and I know other people are different but if something feels wrong to you then chances are it's wrong.
Anyways there is nothing against the rules with it and people are free to do what they want but other people are free to have their opinions.

Seems that you are the kind of person that likes to judge others.

I don't really see the need to explain or justify myself further with regard to this topic.

Why would I have a guilty conscience when hit-and-run is a totally legal thing in poker? I can even choose to cash out after winning my first hand. It's simply an etiquette issue.

Some people don't like it and they have to learn to deal with it. It's part and parcel of the game.

Whatever man, just keep in mind that you are on a public forum and not everyone is going to agree with everyone. Have you read youtube comments or yahoo news comments before? I think everyone is being pretty civil here so try not to get too defensive.

Anyways if there was no guilty conscience or at least being aware of a possible breach in etiquette you would never bring it up in the 1st place in your post. You'd be like I won a f***ing massive pot and I'm immediately going to cash out and get some hookers and blow bi***es!!!!

All that being said I don't know where the middle ground is for cashing out when up a lot. I don't know how many times I have ran a stack up to only be felted a few hours later.

Thank you for the kind words. I obviously wrote the post just to get this sort of reply.

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So you're an angle shooter as well as a shortstacking hit n run nit?

Jokes aside, there is no rule against what you're doing but if everyone was like you live poker wouldn't exist.

This. Shortstacking, angle shooting, hit-n-running and plain out nittiness is the nut worst for the game , I doubt Warmage sees it for what it is though, much like I doubt he realizes how the absolute cringe-worthy aspects of certain parts of his posts ITT can rub a lot of people in the wrong way (me as well...)...

This said, I just enjoy the entertaining/polarizing effect he brings to this thread

Then you are a piece of s***, typing judgemental comments from the safety of your own home.

Live poker exists precisely because of lowlife trash like you, degen-ing his last dollar on the penny games by the streets.