I think similar topics have been done before, but I would really like something that rates specific criteria in a clear and concise way. I'm thinking about five separate aspects of what I would want and I think they cover what most people would be concerned with. The rating would just be on a score from 1 to 10, with 10 being the best. I will explain the criteria and then give an example. If anyone else could add to it using the same format that I do, I think this could be a valuable thread with lots of useful info. Also, please indicate whether you have firsthand experience living there, or if your data is based off of internet research/things you've heard/etc.

The Five Criteria:

Cost of Living - How far does your money go? In terms of food, housing, clothing, electronics, utilities, internet, transportation, etc...

Recreation - How fun is it living there? How is the night life? Is there beautiful scenery/hiking nearby?

How Scary? - How scary is it living there? Do many people speak English? Are the police corrupt? Are you afraid of being shived by a local for his girlfriend smiling at you? Are there groups that hate foreigners? Will people try to rip you off and get angry when you call them on it?

Poker Playing - How is the B&M poker scene? Or is gambling even legal there? Do you have to do stuff to try and evade detection for playing online in secret?

How Easy to Get There and Stay There? - Are you welcomed with open arms at the border? Is it easy to stay there indefinitely/cheaply with tourist visas? Do you need to leave the country and come back periodically? Is there a maximum amount of time you can stay without becoming a permanent resident? If becoming a permanent resident is necessary to stay long term, how easy is this to accomplish? Or do you basically have to marry someone or be offered a job to get in?


Here is an example...I will use a country I have zero real experience with, and I want people to be encouraged to do the same if they so choose. While real experience is preferable, there could still be valuable information from others. Plus, I want the people that DO have real experience to be encouraged to write more accurate reviews when they perceive a flaw in another. Please feel free to write reviews on already reviewed countries. The more reviews, the better overall picture we can discern of that country.

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Country - Thailand
Firsthand Experience? - No

Cost of Living - 9 - From everything I've heard, you can live very well here for not a lot of spending. I read the average Thai makes around 7000 baht a month and lives okay off that. Making enough from poker and decently supporting yourself in a first world country would appear to provide you the money to be an ultra clubbing baller here, if you so desired.

Recreation - 9 - Beautiful beaches, cultural landmarks, not good for surfing though. Lots of venues for crazy partying, all the casual sex you want...if you don't mind paying for it. Watch out for transgenders...unless that's your thing.

How Scary - 5 - I have heard the police are corrupt, and that driving anywhere holds a higher chance of lethality than most other places. Don't be a hardass and start something with a local or you will pay for it one way or another. But I hear that if you are friendly/go with the flow and there to have fun, you will be just fine.

Poker Playing - 2? - I hear gambling is illegal? Seems like people have to do crazy loopholes to be able to play online and do so in secret. I really don't know much about it though so by no means take my word for any of this.

How Easy to Get There and Stay There? - 8 - Don't know much about this either. I've been hearing people get 90 day tourist visas for pretty cheap and are able to leave the border for a day and come back for another 90 days indefinitely.

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That's the gist of what I'd like to see. If people follow this format, I think this thread could be a great resource for people like me. Some countries I'd love to hear about personally are: Malta, Brazil, Thailand.

This is a good idea. 2+2 is massive forum and there are people who have lived all over the place.

Anyways:

Country: Brazil (specifically, Rio de Janiero)
Firsthand experience?- Yes- 2 weeks. (I know there is a travel forum poster '40s' who is a Rio native, he can definitely correct me if I'm wrong in any of my statements).

Cost of Living- In terms of some of the other countries in South America, Brazil is one of the most expensive. In relation to the cost of living in, say, America (or UK), it's probably a little cheaper.

Other comparisons for expats such as Argentina, Thailand, Malta, etc, I'd imagine Rio is probably on the higher end.

Some girls at my hostel were staying for a few months in Rio for a school project. They got a 2 BR place for like $750 a month (together) in one of the nicer areas of the city (ipanema). You can get even cheaper ones in the more ghetto areas.

Recreation-Top notch. I had a fantastic time in Rio. The girls are beautiful, the beaches are excellent, the food is good. In my two weeks in Rio I climbed a mountain, hang glided, went to a soccer/football game, played on the beach, went to the club districts (Lapa) and biked through the city.

Really, Rio offered everything. I know that if I were to stay there, I'd set a list of things to do: learn Portuguese, learn to surf, practice BJJ, scuba dive, continue rock climbing, etc.

How Scary?-Unfortunately, Rio is probably going to be on the higher end of 'scarier' places to be at in terms of other options. I never had a problem nor did I ever really feel in danger. That said, I'm not white (I blended in right with them) and I stayed in a nicer area.

I heard of a few different instances where some friends from the hostel were mugged at night. I guess just don't be an idiot, travel smart (don't carry all your **** with you), etc.

Poker Playing-No idea. Didn't even think about playing. The internet is good there I guess...40s would be a better source on casinos.

How Easy to Get There and Stay there? -Kindve a bitch...at least for US citizens. A VISA is required. For non-US people, it's okay though (I think?). Rio's airport is quite big though and there are other ways to get around (long bus rides).

Any Rio residents/travelers feel free to correct me on any of my statements.

I don't see how police corruption is a bad thing unless they're constantly shaking down foreigners. Do you want a guaranteed trip to jail if you're caught smoking a joint or do you want to pay a small bribe at the scene and walk away?

I'll write one up for Laos later.

I forgot one; I'd also love to read reviews on the Philippines!

Great idea for a thread

But, I hope people realise that the OP hasnt been to thailand and should wait for a proper review of Thailand from one of the guys who has stayed for an extended period.

Do the right thing in Thailand/be smart and u can give all categories a 9/10 imo.

Internet quality is a HUGE factor, I would add this to the list.

About "Poker Playing": Casinos are not allowed in brazil, but there are some poker clubs, where u can play tourneys and cash games - from 1/2 to 10/20 afaik - (currency = reais)
internet is good!

Country - Barcelona , Spain
Firsthand Experience? - Yes

Cost of Living - 2 - One of the most expensive cities in the world. Rents are high. We are paying €830 for an old and small two bedroom apartment in the nicer part of the city. Average cost for a lunch is €10 - €15. A drink at a club is around €10 - €13.

Recreation - 10 - The limit is your imagination. All kinds of places , people , events etc etc You have the beach , you have the mountains , you have the culture , you have the history..

How Scary - 7 - It really depends on where you are. In the center of the city , it can get scary at nights. But it can get as scary as any tourist attraction city gets.

Poker Playing - 7 - There is the casino where EPT is held. There are some home games etc etc

How Easy to Get There and Stay There? - 8 - 3 months for americans , visa requierements for some other countries. Europeans can stay as much as they want obv.

also, this thread should be about cities.. its ridicilous how different cities are inside the same country

Country - Vienna, Austria
Firsthand Experience? - Yes

Cost of Living - 5 - One of the cheaper capitals in western Europe. Prizes depend obviously where you live and which size you want. Flats are bigger than in other European cities, especially in old built houses. Rents in Ok places start around 550 Euro (unfurnished and cold). Public Transport is excellent and very cheap.

Recreation - 10 - Not the biggest party capital but you can do so many things in Vienna. Many events are taking place in Vienna and there is huge cultural treasure in the city. Twice time in a row Vienna was rated as the most livable city of the world http://www.mercer.com/press-releases...Ranking_Tables.

How Scary - 10 - One of the savest capitals in the World, maybe even THE savest capital in the world. Also Austria in general is super save.

Poker Playing - 8 - Biggest poker scene in Europe. Many cardrooms and live poker is taxfree and legal. Online poker is a grey zone but i have never heard of somebody who got punished playing online poker. Next year 1 EPT and 1 WPT will be held in Vienna + the EPT Snowfest in Saalbach which is also not so far away.

How Easy to Get There and Stay There? - 8 - 3 months for americans , visa requierements for some other countries. Europeans can stay as much as they want obv. So same accurs than in every other european city. Two aiports are not far away from Vienna. The Vienna Aiport and the Bratislava Airport.

Central and South America - Scary and very overpriced for what you get.

Asia - Very safe and aside from Korea, Taiwan, and Japan and big cities it is cheap.

Africa - Scary and expensive. Exception is S. Africa and some of the Arab Africa like Morocco.

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You can play internet poker everywhere via proxy.

You can travel everywhere for $1000-1500 max.

Recreation depends on the person. Everywhere is fun for a little while except for Muslim countries if your only source of fun is drinking and picking up girls.

Country - Thailand
Firsthand Experience? - Yes

Cost of Living - 7 - The currency has gotten stronger, used to be maybe 8.5. Many things are as expensive or more expensive than the USA though. Some examples: cars (far more expensive), electronics (more expensive), Western food (the same or more expensive - western groceries are far more expensive). Many things are of course very inexpensive.

Recreation - 10 - Depends what you are into I guess but great nightlife, great beaches and islands, outdoors stuff for people who are into that, very cheap hookers (recreation imo) and on and on.

How Scary - 8 - Probably one of the safest countries in the world, at least for westerners. Only does not get a 10 because of the dangerous traffic/motorbikes. As mentioned, I consider the corrupt police a good thing.

Poker Playing - Online, 8, Live 1. Technically illegal to play online but they have made no efforts to crack down on foreigners playing and imo they wont. As far as live goes, not only are there no casinos but they regularly bust home games/mini casinos.

How Easy to Get There and Stay There? - 4 - If you are just coming for a few weeks on vacation this is a 10, if you want to live here it sucks and can be expensive, time consuming and inconvenient - but is doable at least. Some places you flat can't stay without getting a job.

Country - Holland
Firsthand Experience? - Yes

Cost of Living - 2 - Extremely expensive to live in Amsterdam, not sure about smaller cities.

Recreation - 10 - Whatever you can't find in Holland you can surely find in any of the amazing neighboring countries.

How Scary - 4 - Central Amsterdam is generally safe but there are a lot of thugs about and I had a guy threaten me with a knife and demand 5 Euros one time so I'm probably jaded. I would imagine other parts of Hollard are much safer.

Poker Playing - 8 - They have casinos where you can play poker and playing online is not illegal, but they do tax there citizens on winnings and you'd probably legally owe taxes if you lived there and played for a living.

How Easy to Get There and Stay There? - 1 - The first 90 days are a 10, after that it immediately drops to a 1. It is basically impossible to stay longer unless you get a job.

You should have included something about how hot the girls are and how easy it is to bang locals imo - this is a poker forum after all...

Country - Argentina (Buenos Aires)
Firsthand Experience? - Yes

Cost of Living - 7 - Basic items such as food and rent are cheap, especially in comparison to other cities of similar size. Public transportation is highly efficient and practically free. Electronics are expensive. Inflation has been chipping away steadily at cost of living benefits.

Recreation - 9 - Nightlife is abundant and cheap. There are many parks and museums. Beaches and skiing and natural beauty are all accessible.

How Scary - 6 - Most of the city is safe during the day, and the nice areas are generally safe at night. Nonetheless, muggings occur frequently and can happen in nice areas as well. Criminals seem to have some common sense and do not resort to violence unless the stakes are high. Foreigners are treated the same as anyone else.

Poker Playing - 7 - There is live poker but with uncapped rake. The government doesn't care at all about online gambling. The banking system is a mess, so you're not going to get any help with cashing out.

How Easy to Get There and Stay There? - 9 - Flying to Argentina is annoyingly expensive but staying is as simple as renewing your visa every 3 months with a day trip to Uruguay or a visit to the office downtown.

Helsinki, Finland

Cost of Living - 4 Helsinki is neither cheap nor expensive. Cheaper than London, Berlin etc large cities, same as Stockholm etc., more expensive than most.

Recreation - 9 You can pretty much do anything you want here. There are also excellent outdoors options since Finland is 3 times larger than Japan but has only 5.5 million inhabitants. We have plenty of snow during winters.

How Scary? - 10 No question, one of the safest countries in the world.

Poker Playing - 9 1 Casino in Finland, in Helsinki. Poker playing online is legal, depending where you play it is taxable.

[b][u]How Easy to Get There and Stay There? -6-10

If you are EU citizen, you can just move here and do whaever you want for however long you want.
If you are not an EU citizen, you might need to work/study at least from time to time. It takes couple of years to get Finnish nationality. Visa covers 3 month. You can also apply for residancy permit that is year, you can apply as Self-Employed but I don't know if poker is covered in that.