Be wary of that guy, it shows an incredible lack of respect towards you, you have no idea what he is capable of doing next! And I second Yellowfever to slap some sense into him even though I don't like violence.

Curious though, what was the girls reaction? Did she seem uncomfortable, how was her reaction?

my personal, often frowned upon opinion - but too much drama, possessiveness, selfishness, and ego in relationships these days. Yes, your new acquaintance was being kind of a dick, but you aren't gonna be with her or control her every second of her life. Let the cards fall where they may, love and let love and pass it all around if that's how its playing out. If she wanted to be loyal to you, she would be.

I slightly encourage my friends to see what they can get away with when they're around my gf. It's doing me a favor in a way and helping solidify where my relationship stands.
Test that girl's loyalty. As long as there is honesty and respect involved throughout, humans gonna human.

Depending on the circumstances I may need to drop the girl if she goes behind my back, but really who are we to say what she's allowed to enjoy? If she is deceptive about it, then that shows a lack of respect. If both my friend tells me and girl tells me that they fooled around, there's no harm no foul in my eyes. Everyone was upfront and honest. but trying to control the desires of another or force your own ideals upon others is close minded and immature. Not saying all of this applies to you OP, but a shift in perspective of how we look at these everyday occurrences can really benefit the well-being and happiness of everyone involved.

Note - I'm not that dude who hits on other people's chicks. I have no game when it comes to that but still end up getting laid plenty. there's literally billions of girls in the world, and hundreds of millions who are bangable.

in the eloquent words of guru Mr. Rock - that tiger didn't go crazy, that tiger went tiger!

Boliver/SuperMario: Boliver, I definitely agree in a way, and I think that was a way I haven't really looked at it from before. I guess my biggest problem was the fact that it wasn't flirting, so much as inappropriately groping her when she clearly wasn't alright with it or into it, and trying to lie about it. When someone does that weird side-pull in of a girl where he tries to make-out with her face from the side in a surprise attack, and she's just kind of like "what the hell, we weren't even dancing or talking." I could come to terms with it if there was a reciprocal interest, and not a predatory unwanted groping.

An interesting thing was when I first met the guy, it was all braggadocio about how he only sleeps with 8s or better, and showing me some pictures of women "he had slept with in the past." It was all clearly bull****. The girl is cute, but by no means a traditional stunner, and my attraction to her definitely stems from her sweetness, so it was funny with plenty of attractive women in the bar, he tried to go for someone who was so far away from the pictures he was showing me of his "past girlfriends, etc..."

Definitely an interesting night, and still feel although he had no real allegiance to me, just out of sheer common courtesy, after taking him out for dinner, and around, that it wasn't too much to expect in a bar full of countless good looking women, to not creepily try and grope the girl he knew I was hanging with.

Ps. Love the CR quote, one of the first standup specials I truly got into

Maybe with a Western girl telling your friends to flirt with her in front of u might give u some info. Most Asian girls would just be uncomfortable with it. My GF would just ask me why i have such creepy friends or something when we went home.

I know in my case i dont worry at all about my GF cheating on me. I do know if she was going to she would do it in a face saving Asian style low key way.

For me its the respect thing. If someone is going to act like that in front of me i can only imagine what they would do behind my back.

yeah encouraging your friends to flirt with your gurl to test her loyalty is some megadumb **** and the stype of stuff guys would call women crazy for.

if open relationships work for you thats great. Theyre not for me.

good point YF. I went to college with a lot of PUA types who would go to hollywood every weekend and game chicks, similar to what OP experienced altho that dude just sounds way out of line. Some of them got bored with 'the game' that they started only going after girls that were there on a date, just alpha *******s. Confronting these guys heads on trying to 'out-alpha' them just isn't my thing, so when I run across them occasionally now, I just tell em to go for it as long as they're respectful and let me know how it went.

I have wiiide ranges and date like 7s and below, so maybe just not as big of a problem in my life.
since im so quotey today - Ancient Confucius proverb: choose your wife like you would choose your couch. Nice enough to look at everyday and comfortable to sit in, but not so sexy and attractive that people want to steal it.

I see where you're coming from and have a similar outlook when it comes to casual dating. It's extremely common in our group of friends in BKK to lightly flirt with the gfs and girls of other guys in the group, and in fact I think it's a really healthy attitude both because the guys keep their game sharp around women and the girls see that you're not hanging around chodes (for lack of a better word)but with fun confident guys (which is also more fun for them). However, there's a world of difference between light teasing and full on trying to make out with the girl in front of your friend, assuming the guy has already done some work to make **** happen with said girl. That's a massive lack of respect imo

Forgot to add, thanks a ton for this thread Boris. I'm thinking about moving again to Taipei next year for a long-term period; 2 years ago I stayed for 2ish months but pretty much worked the entire time and didn't experience the city almost at all so this is really entertaining and informative. Big thumbs up mate

Thanks Torg, I really appreciate it. Like I mentioned above, I enjoy writing and if it helps anyone in any way, whether it being able to relate, wanting to know about a different country they may move to, etc... then I feel like it is serving a purpose and will keep continuing it.

I'm going to an awesome seafood market, area of restaurants tonight called the Addiction Aquatic Development. Will try and take some pictures.

Pretty laid back week. Been quite asexual lately which I noticed more after I stopped drinking as much. Maybe I'm just not putting myself into as many situations where there's women around. Had gone on a date last week with some ABC-ish type, and it was great to just have an awesome conversation and in depth. She wasn't great looking face-wise, but during dinner she took off her jacket and was in this tight red sweater, also I hadn't jayed it in like a 3 days and almost just turned rabid. She lives like 45 mins to an hour outside of Taipei, and works late sometimes and had casually thrown out, "If I miss my bus, I'm staying over." I kind of dismissed it at first, but she has actively kind of been following up on it and today texted me asking my address and whether she should stay the night tonight.

As great as it would be, I also kinda just wanted a night to myself, and would much prefer a Saturday. My place is a pretty big mess currently and I didn't really feel like cleaning it tonight. I tip-toed around a bit and told her if she is out real late, just give a holler, otherwise I'd probably just be calling it an early night. I think people can relate to just needing "me-time." I just need some time alone to recharge, and I'm not feeling very recharged after Hong Kong still. Also, after that pussy that smelled so ****ing terrible, I've been more apprehensive. But, you gotta get back on the horse after you are thrown off, unless you are Christopher Reeves.

-Big Body

Ps. Not much of a cunnilingus man, but all these petite Taiwanese girls walking around in short shorts and dresses are giving Big Body the itch to make a meal of it (I'm straight up just going to own the creepiness of that statement).

Place was ****ing awesome, just a 3-tier fish market and bunch of restaurants, with tables outside and live jazz music, stand up tables, and endless fish, meat, booze and food. Will write about it more tomorrow. Was a double date of sorts, blind date, and the girl was ****ing awesome, got her Line and will hopefully be seeing her soon for a movie. Boris is jazzed.






Like butttttahhhhh


Be great,

-Big Body Boris

Pretty laid back week. Not much coming up other than my buddy Uncle T's wedding this Saturday. Should be fun and all, except I'm at the table with our Indian HR lady who doesn't drink and doesn't like me.

Can start posting more pictures if people are interested. I'm not much of a picture person, and after my first stint in Beijing, my mother was wondering why I only had 6 pictures on my camera, with 3 of them being some Chinese girl's ass and 2 being pictures of me drunk, and 1 of me imitating a Chinese farmer in a clearly racist fashion.

Texted a chick who I met over the sushi thing, that didn't pan out, numbers game though. Need to start getting back to dating better quality women. I guess if it was easy, people wouldn't be pumping out some slags while they wait.

Hope everyone's week is grand,

-Big Body

Everybody likes pictures bro. Esp of hot girls!

went there a couple of months ago, and also thought it was awesome. looks like it was plucked right out of brooklyn. some taiwanese man at the bar was nice enough to pay for some really nice wine / jamom iberico (which I had missed dearly) while I waited for my number to be called.

there was another 2p2er living in Taiwo. He was busto in Thailand when he drunkenly ****ed some 40 yo Taiwanese ayi. She took him back to Taibei as her 小白脸。Ever seen/heard of him?

Glad you also liked it GBP, give a holler if you back in Taipei anytime soon.

PE: Never heard of this guy, link? Sounds like the children currently weep for that man.

What is maximum price you'd pay for this chick? Think she's about $12000-15000 NTD or $400-$500 USD for a few hours.





Tempting, not sure if most economical.

-B

I'd pay 100 to 120 max short time depending on how into her I was in person. Maybe if didn't live in Thailand and was horny id go 200. Figuring it's going to be one nut and out.

Im usually the type to just take a girl not as hot as that but for like only 45-60 bucks for the all nighter from a disco and I'm happy. I rarely would go up to that 100 premium range anymore.

Think the most I've ever paid for one nut is 2500 st a 800 barfine and 200 baht drink. So thats like 120usd I would value that girl in that range for sure. It would still be tough for me to pay it though when I know I could go Gran the long time multple bang disco slut for so much cheaper.

Yeah YF, I'm definitely in the same boat as you there. Just wondering if anyone has made that jump to the more expensive and if it was worth it or not. I've never really been much of a filet mignon guy, because I enjoy the bologna and cold cuts too much.

Looking for someone to weigh in on the actual differences in quality, experience, etc... and whether it was worth that price spike.

-B

Interesting situations brewing on the female front. I guess it is one of those things where it comes in waves. However, I can't say I'm entirely pleased at all my options, as they are all offset by some wildcard factors. The following in no particular order.

Girl 1: US educated, decent body, lives very close (could be good and bad), just broke up with her boyfriend, met on Tinder, already on same terms we just want some good ole fashioned, unadulterated, horizontal dancing. Downside, she has this kind of crazy look in her eye, a sort of mix between the ******ed guy from It's Always Sunny that Dee Dates, and Krazee-Eyez Killa from Curb Your Enthusiasm. Also, already sense there is a potential for clingy-ness.




Girl 2: Should probably phrase this as woman 2, as this is a straight up 41 year old cougar. Decent looks, a bit older face, not the best body, still skinny. Kind of in that mother mentality where she tries to recommend all this **** that you don't really need, and gets mad if you don't agree or want to do it. Straight up asked me how my sperm was and if I could give her a child. I'd say that is the negative there.

Girl 3: US educated, not great face, good body, had great conversation when went out on a date. A bit sporadic and kind of moody. Kind of pissed me off that after 1 date she thought she could just crash at my place whenever she felt like, and has been calling me at like 4am trying to come over. Held off for now, but may give in.

Girl 4: Straight up Mainland lady, who is kind of the definition of the left-over women (Chinese term for women after 27 looking for love). Rough lookin' face, too much makeup, bad english, but huge, and I mean, huge but good titties. This is all from pics. Her and I chatted a while ago on Tinder, but faded out after I was drunk and told her me and Esquire would tag team her. Now she messaged me outta nowhere wanting to take me up on the offer, but seemed to settle when I said 1 New Hampshire moccasin will have to do.

-Boris

Lizzie:

I alluded to Lizzie earlier when recounting my meet up with the Hellcat, and figured now would be a good time to write about her. In a thread, forum, and website with so much sin, it is sometimes nice to go back and recount purity. But all that is pure, becomes tainted at some point, and I was just that for Lizzie.

Lizzie and I were in law school together. She was doing a masters, while I was in my J.D. She was from the Mainland, a mix of Xinjiang (the very Western non-Han dominated province) and Jilin (Northeast). I actually had no idea who she was, until the Hellcat told me that she had a friend who was interested in me because I look like Wayne Rooney. I don't even think old prostitutes want to **** Wayne Rooney, so it was perplexing. I'd also state, that I don't really resemble him at all, but then again, all "white people look alike."

We planned a Friday night out, which always consisted of 10-15 muppets from the law school, who you never really enjoyed hanging with, but always gave you some hope it could lead to branching out from your own incestuous group. Going out in Lan Kwai Fong, it was quite strange to dress up in anything but something rather revealing or form fitting (for females), so I was surprised when I first saw Lizzie in a giant purple skirt, kind of like Esmerelda from The Hunchback of Notre Dame (also, not going to lie, but I still tear up thinking about him getting the fruit and vegetables thrown at him - shoutout to all the hunchbacks reading this).

She was definitely shy and had a fair amount of acne on her face, but had the sweetest smile. We all stood outside Oyster Bar (thank the lord that place closed down, for selling like $40 HKD long island ice teas that tasted like Snooki's *******). We branched off a little and I walked her to 7-11 to get a classy breezer. We drank a bit and gradually the flirting escalated to me kissing her on the street, to which she was a bit in shock, but had that look in her eyes which was intrigue and pure happiness. I told her she could sleep at my place, and we headed back.

Little did I know that this was maybe the most innocent girl I had courted. Some light making-out ensued in my bed, and I was told that she had only ever kissed her high school boyfriend. She was shy about her body, but was eventually able to coax the clothes off. Nothing happened that night, but the next morning, we were laying in bed and she looked at me and said how she had never touched a penis before and was curious about it. I know some of you are thinking, she had probably played a bit of chess for asking that, but it was a sincere, curious question.

Out it came and I basically coached her through her first handjob, to which she got the hang of, except for a bit of a death grip. As the grand finale came, I realized it was pointed directly at my face, and in a moment of sheer ecstasy and unable to really move, I gave myself a chin facial, which is absolutely ****ing demoralizing.

Things were a bit casual for a while, and she would come over usually when I was hungover and blow me and then we'd watch a movie, and then I'd go out later that night. Eventually, I realized how much I actually loved spending time with her, and we started going on more official dates, which I absolutely loved. She was a virgin, so occasionally in the heat of the moment she'd ask me to get a condom and put it on, then kind of back out. One day she texted me asking if I wanted to sleep over her place after dinner, which was odd because it was always at mine, but her roommate was out of town. We went to a german restaurant and ordered some beers and food, and eventually made it back to her place, where the deed was done. I don't really regret taking her virginity, because we waited quite a while, until she was fully ready. And I think being with me opened her up to a new way of thinking, or so I hoped. Both her parents were in the Communist Party, and I hoped maybe she would view the world in a different light, to which it seemed she was.

Like most of my stories, they are kind of just the average thoughts about the matter, but I think we were really good for each other, and I always held on this hope that one day we might be together. 2 years ago I got a text that she had moved back to Beijing, and married her high school sweetheart. It disappointed me to hear because I felt like someone with great potential, and also dreams to get out there, took the easy route. I don't think she is very happy now, as it was one of those loveless, I'm 25 now, all my friends are married, type of marriages. Not saying I thought we would end up together, but I always held onto hope, but always wished the best for her, especially in getting out there and straying from the norm. That was the first girl I ever really cared about that got married and started a real life for herself, and that's always a strange feeling, and hard to put into words. Our tryst of sorts lasted over 2 years, on and off at points, so it was someone who played a significant role in my life. There's a lot of women in my life that I am able to block out their thought due to something that went wrong, so it's an odd, yet pleasant and calm feeling thinking about a girl who nothing ever really went wrong, and you ended just due to the circumstances of moving.

To this day, I still look at the only picture I have of us on Halloween, me dressed up in a dragon costume, and her a lady bug, posing in front of the LKF entrance, and it makes me more sure of what I am looking for in a future long term relationship.

"People say that old road is haunted, if you travel on it long enough you'll never get off it."

-Big Sensitive Boris

for some reason I really thought that was gonna end with her being a crack whore on the streets or something after you popped her cherry. Nice she's settled down or whatever, but yea a weird kind of grief knowing that she's just accepted mediocrity.
I think the only ex gf who resents me is one who I took her virginity. Her next boyfriend she married and started popping out kids, which I feel bad about as she was a smart girl with a sick career and grand plans of getting her masters degree and travelling the world.

So I mean, at least she probably looks back upon you fondly - that counts for something. My main rule is leave em better off than you found em. Can't go too wrong with that, even if we are horn-dogs with the need to get some strange on the regular.

Shark was a short lived legend but no doubt a legend.

do yoi got the link for Boris? shark was a legend indeed. hopefully he didnt die on his motprbike.

Boliver: I like that thought on leaving them better off than you found them. Took me a while to realize that severing most relationships in a toxic way definitely not the answer. BTW, can't believe I just found your thread now, love it and the pics are awesome.

Couldn't make an edit in time, but one great thing that I left out, was that first night she had a raging bush, and I told her that most girls in the states are shaved or waxed, and right on next hangout, smooth as silk. Over the time we spent together, she started getting really into yoga and the Brazilian butt workout, or whatever that was, and by the end of it, was just Fergalicious back there.

One thing it seems about Asian women is that they are able to mold their bodies so much better than Western women. Just seems like a fresher clay as opposed to an already hardened one that has to be chiseled away at.

Esquire sent a message after a big weekend. "I got pink eye or something. It really hurts. But I can't stop thinking >finger> vagina> rub eye> eye herpes> blindness. I was on top of the world Tuesday. And may be reduced to blind beggar status on the bridge from IFC to Ferry Pier by end of the week."

-Boris

Going drinking with crazy eyes tonight (Candidate #1). Was supposed to meet Sunday, but I think once I get settled at home, I wouldn't be too thrilled to get off the couch to take her to a night market. Also, it's gotten to the point with my night market dates (out of laziness), that all my go-to spots give me a knowing smirk when I bring another date there.

There's a pretty sassy dumpling lady who works at Tonghua night market, but I love her and call her my "dumpling mama." Always gives me the broken dumplings on top of my original order. Also randomly spotted her out in Xinzhuang (New Taipei City area), at a Brother's baseball game, and she's a huge fan so sells dumplings there occasionally. She has absolutely no problem just straight up asking me how many women I'm seeing, who's my favorite, etc... Feeling like I don't want my dumpling mama to think I'm just ****ing slags. I want to make mah dumpling mama proud.

Have a roll dawg's wedding tomorrow, and then we have Monday off. The krazee-eyed killa wanted to sleep over Sunday, but it looks like tonight will be the night. You know when you wake up and you are kind of just like humping the crevasse between two pillows and are like, goddamnit I wish that was real. I think that happens when you just need to get the easy one out, and hopefully tonight is just that.

Also, was looking through some old pictures of some girls from Hong Kong that I had slept with, and there were a few where the gun prematurely went off. I get a chuckle thinking about being 21 and just so embarrassed that it was literally just a 3 pumper, when it does happen. But the funny part is that with the few that it happened to, I'd just pretend like I was sick or something and sneakily run to the bathroom to take the condom off, and feign illness the rest of the night. One girl accidentally elbowed me (not very hard) in my eye during sex, but it was right as I was getting off, so I just jumped right off after and pretended like I couldn't have sex for the next 30 mins because my eye was in so much pain. Even faked it with an ice pack. When no condom was used, it was just way too obvious, but I remember back into the Beijing days with Peppa on my bed, it was pitch black and I just came at the foot of the bed, and tried to cover it with a blanket.

Be great this weekend,

-Mr. Leftward Sloping Penis

Ps. ****ing love how fearless the cleaning lady in my building is, just comes right in the bathroom while I'm hanging the rat and is scrubbing the toilet right next to me, completely unfazed.