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Old 08-12-2012, 02:18 PM   #1
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Best places to gain residency

I am a 22 year old poker player, looking to move outside the USA to play live poker. What are my best options?

I do intend to play online poker as well, so that will be a bonus in moving there.

I would prefer

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Old 08-12-2012, 02:34 PM   #2
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Re: Best places to gain residency

I've been traveling for 2 years playing live poker. I've hit most scenes, and in terms of softness it doesn't change too much. Much depends on your personal preferences/interests outside of poker. If your looking strictly for action and highest BB/hr around the $2/5 level I'd recommend Manila or Macau.

If you prefer 1st world living I'd recommend Barcelona.
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Old 08-12-2012, 02:46 PM   #3
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Can you talk more about Barcelona?
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Old 08-12-2012, 02:48 PM   #4
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Awesome city in general. Great nightlife, nice beach, casino is on the beach, cost of living is okay, girls are hot.

Action is average, higher proportion of good/pro regs:fish.
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Old 08-12-2012, 02:50 PM   #5
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Any idea on residency?
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Old 08-13-2012, 03:33 PM   #6
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Re: Best places to gain residency

moving outside of the US solely to play in live casinos seems wasteful to me...but whatever floats your boat i guess!
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:32 PM   #7
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Macau is 1st world. Has one of the highest life expectancy in the world too. If it wasn't so expensive I'd snap live there. May look into moving there in a couple years

For purposes of OP Macau probably isn't an option, American can only stay there 60 days and that includes 2 visa run.

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Old 08-13-2012, 04:51 PM   #8
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Macau is 1st world. Has one of the highest life expectancy in the world too. If it wasn't so expensive I'd snap live there. May look into moving there in a couple years

For purposes of OP Macau probably isn't an option, American can only stay there 60 days and that includes 2 visa run.
I read that it's no visa required, I must have read some faulty information.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:52 PM   #9
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Barcelona is a great possibility as of now I'm trying to father a much information as I can regarding obtaining residency.
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Old 08-13-2012, 05:02 PM   #10
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You don't need a visa to enter Macau.
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Old 08-13-2012, 05:04 PM   #11
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I read that it's no visa required, I must have read some faulty information.
You get 30 days on arrival. Can leave and come back for 20 more days, leave and come back for 10 more days for a total of 60 days.

This is from 1 year ago but just checked and it is still 30 days for Americans
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Old 08-13-2012, 06:06 PM   #12
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About Barcelona, does anyone have any more knowledge of requirements or a checklist for obtaining residency?
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Old 08-13-2012, 06:47 PM   #13
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Re: Best places to gain residency

What is your obsession with "obtaining residency" ?

The only way you're going to "obtain residency" is to marry a native.

Your other option is to get a job that sponsors a work permit.

Go to Spain's Consulate and figure out which visa plan is best for you. No need to keep posting about it on a poker internet forum.

If anything more, go hang out at an expat forum dedicated to Spain and find out what other Americans are doing about their visas.

I've lived abroad for over 6 years, and I've never "obtained residency" anywhere.
Barcelona is expensive and they have a good football team. I assume you're a baller to even consider living there. You're going to lose so much money just on currency exchange alone.
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:06 PM   #14
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I want to live outside the USA, I'm well aware of fcb I'd my favorite club team! I have thought about getting a work visa.
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:50 PM   #15
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What is your obsession with "obtaining residency" ?

The only way you're going to "obtain residency" is to marry a native.

Your other option is to get a job that sponsors a work permit.

Go to Spain's Consulate and figure out which visa plan is best for you. No need to keep posting about it on a poker internet forum.

If anything more, go hang out at an expat forum dedicated to Spain and find out what other Americans are doing about their visas.

I've lived abroad for over 6 years, and I've never "obtained residency" anywhere.
It kinda sucks living anywhere on a visa leash that can be cut any day Immigration feels like it as a matter of policy, or when you talk to Immigration official that is having a bad day. All of the sudden, you are scrambling to get out of the country.

That's a pretty crappy way to live. It's hard to plan investments and future and most people doing this are bleeding their incomes, without acquiring any appreciating assets because of immigration and labor department restrictions. You're nothing more than an extended tourist delaying your eventual - necessary - return to somewhere where they actually allow you to stay trouble free.

Obtaining residency, and ideally another citizenship opens so many more doors. I'm really glad to hold both EU and US passports. It helps in many obvious and non-obvious ways. So if you're planning to spend a year or two somewhere, going to a place where you can "go legal" is always a plus and you might as well spend some time pursuing it in your free time.
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