Ask A Pro about Living in Seoul, South Korea
09-28-2009
, 04:47 AM
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my sample size is obv somewhat small
but man...even the ones that aren't 'bad people' the way they talk is so mother ****ing annoying
its like yo mr. english teacher, i don't care how hard you banged some girl last night bro aite? just shut the **** up and let me drink my jack n coke aite?
and yea when i associate with them they are usually drunk lol
but man...even the ones that aren't 'bad people' the way they talk is so mother ****ing annoying
its like yo mr. english teacher, i don't care how hard you banged some girl last night bro aite? just shut the **** up and let me drink my jack n coke aite?
and yea when i associate with them they are usually drunk lol
For ESL teachers, drinking is as much a part of the foreigner experience in Korea as it is in Korean culture, perhaps more so. So if you're running into a foreigner at a bar, chances are that he/she is either drunk or on his/her way to it. A social outing among ESL teachers that does not involve copious amounts of alcohol is an extreme rarity. The difference between the two drinking circles is that you can reject drinking in a group of foreigners without pissing anybody off. Meanwhile, your only excuse to not drink among a group of Koreans is that you're driving. Since I don't own a car, I do not have an excuse to abstain.
If there's anything I like about Masan, it's that the foreigners here don't have that in-your-face mentality that you are talking about. Since it's a very small community and the selection of Korean girls around my age group is low, there's less of that obnoxious air that pisses people off. I've seen exactly what you're talking about and hate it as much as you do. When I was drinking in Busan (Haeundae), there was group of English teachers (I assume they were given their physical appearance) that was so obnoxious and annoying that I left the bar early, caught a bus at the terminal and went home nice and sober.
09-28-2009
, 04:52 AM
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Well, that last sentence probably taints the sample
For ESL teachers, drinking is as much a part of the foreigner experience in Korea as it is in Korean culture, perhaps more so. So if you're running into a foreigner at a bar, chances are that he/she is either drunk or on his/her way to it. A social outing among ESL teachers that does not involve copious amounts of alcohol is an extreme rarity. The difference between the two drinking circles is that you can reject drinking in a group of foreigners without pissing anybody off. Meanwhile, your only excuse to not drink among a group of Koreans is that you're driving. Since I don't own a car, I do not have an excuse to abstain.
If there's anything I like about Masan, it's that the foreigners here don't have that in-your-face mentality that you are talking about. Since it's a very small community and the selection of Korean girls around my age group is low, there's less of that obnoxious air that pisses people off. I've seen exactly what you're talking about and hate it as much as you do. When I was drinking in Busan (Haeundae), there was group of English teachers (I assume they were given their physical appearance) that was so obnoxious and annoying that I left the bar early, caught a bus at the terminal and went home nice and sober.
For ESL teachers, drinking is as much a part of the foreigner experience in Korea as it is in Korean culture, perhaps more so. So if you're running into a foreigner at a bar, chances are that he/she is either drunk or on his/her way to it. A social outing among ESL teachers that does not involve copious amounts of alcohol is an extreme rarity. The difference between the two drinking circles is that you can reject drinking in a group of foreigners without pissing anybody off. Meanwhile, your only excuse to not drink among a group of Koreans is that you're driving. Since I don't own a car, I do not have an excuse to abstain.
If there's anything I like about Masan, it's that the foreigners here don't have that in-your-face mentality that you are talking about. Since it's a very small community and the selection of Korean girls around my age group is low, there's less of that obnoxious air that pisses people off. I've seen exactly what you're talking about and hate it as much as you do. When I was drinking in Busan (Haeundae), there was group of English teachers (I assume they were given their physical appearance) that was so obnoxious and annoying that I left the bar early, caught a bus at the terminal and went home nice and sober.
i certainly wouldnt want to associate with a group that has people in it who 'don't drink' LOOOOL luckily this never happens in koea lol my alcoholic mind cannot comprehend this ****kkkk
09-28-2009
, 05:17 AM
09-28-2009
, 05:38 AM
09-28-2009
, 09:58 AM
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Korean girls are never 'cold' to non-koreans unless atleast one of these things: a. they speak 0 english b. they aren't attracted to you c. you don't have the balls to and/or didn't approach them the right way. Once you get to know them they are all people too.
I totally disagree with you about the 'they know their worth demanding and want gifts' stuff. Sure korean girls love gifts as do all girls..and yes there are lots of korean guys that fall into that web and buy girls gifts but obviously thats not standard and u dont need to. They are certainly more attracted to wealthier men to a higher degree than girls from USA or w/e though thats for sure. But even the hottest korean girls once they are in relationships will basically do everything for their man, cooking cleaning shopping w/e the *** they need korean girls loooooove to serve their men.
It's a pretty weird dichotomy for sure. I was really just trying to get at that point. Spot on w/them wanting to take care of their man. The only people who do it better are the filipinos and the thais man
Korean girls at booking clubs are easy to talk to (they are cold early on in the night but at 2 AM and after they all semi tipsy atleast and fun). At normal clubs its definitely harder but not impossible by any means just get a table and invite them...but not speaking korean certainly makes it harder. These clubs are all about going with a really solid group of guys and including some Korean guys. A group of just white guys are basically going to get no validation from korean girls but if you have solid Korean guys in ur group you'll be totally fine. Same goes with booking clubs too, too many white boys is always a bad thing unless all of them can speak Korean then it's fine. Though these days normal trance w/e clubs have wayyyy higher quality of girls than booking clubs (though like half the girls there are room salon girls lol...room salon girls = girls that work at hostess clubs (some of those hostess clubs are basically whore houses and some aren't for those that dont know what it is)).
Booking clubs are for sure the greatest. I don't go anymore because my friends are broke. I'm coming from a korean-american perspective here and I find that even w/my broken korean, I can still charm a good percentage of them. Have a funny story about etiquette that I didn't know, requiring me to go to incheon which is pretty silly. Did your american friends end up sleeping with any? This swedish kid that came with us spoke no Korean, he scared off this amazingly hot korean and I don't think I'll ever forgive him for that. She sat down and left within 10 seconds. Never seen a girl leave on her own that quickly.
I disagree about the easy to know ppl that know ppl cuz its a small city. Unless you're going to the same places all the time and running in the same circles Seoul is pretty much a 'big ****ing world.' Ive been to booking clubs like 400 times over a 6 year period and while these days I do recognize girls sometimes (the regs blah) it's pretty rare tbh and thats even in Club I (which is like the only good booking club left in Seoul (along with Spot). Theres just so many friggen people here. That also explains why theres so many boyfriends/girlfriends cheating on eachother in Seoul. I mean **** like the examples you gave happens sure but there are infinite social circles and niches in Korea so what you listed is actually just rare and coincidental imo.
We'll have to agree to disagree. A lot of korean girls I hang out with are very self-conscious of their image for that very reason. I'm not talking about clubs, I just mean in general, they don't want any reputation. Btw how is club I? I've only been to Spot but I loved it.
Yeah I've been to room salons many many times, there are all different versions and types. Ironically the best and most expensive ones with the hottest of girls are room salons where you can't pay to sleep with the girls.
I think that proves my whole "they know their worth" argument
I totally disagree with you about the 'they know their worth demanding and want gifts' stuff. Sure korean girls love gifts as do all girls..and yes there are lots of korean guys that fall into that web and buy girls gifts but obviously thats not standard and u dont need to. They are certainly more attracted to wealthier men to a higher degree than girls from USA or w/e though thats for sure. But even the hottest korean girls once they are in relationships will basically do everything for their man, cooking cleaning shopping w/e the *** they need korean girls loooooove to serve their men.
It's a pretty weird dichotomy for sure. I was really just trying to get at that point. Spot on w/them wanting to take care of their man. The only people who do it better are the filipinos and the thais man
Korean girls at booking clubs are easy to talk to (they are cold early on in the night but at 2 AM and after they all semi tipsy atleast and fun). At normal clubs its definitely harder but not impossible by any means just get a table and invite them...but not speaking korean certainly makes it harder. These clubs are all about going with a really solid group of guys and including some Korean guys. A group of just white guys are basically going to get no validation from korean girls but if you have solid Korean guys in ur group you'll be totally fine. Same goes with booking clubs too, too many white boys is always a bad thing unless all of them can speak Korean then it's fine. Though these days normal trance w/e clubs have wayyyy higher quality of girls than booking clubs (though like half the girls there are room salon girls lol...room salon girls = girls that work at hostess clubs (some of those hostess clubs are basically whore houses and some aren't for those that dont know what it is)).
Booking clubs are for sure the greatest. I don't go anymore because my friends are broke. I'm coming from a korean-american perspective here and I find that even w/my broken korean, I can still charm a good percentage of them. Have a funny story about etiquette that I didn't know, requiring me to go to incheon which is pretty silly. Did your american friends end up sleeping with any? This swedish kid that came with us spoke no Korean, he scared off this amazingly hot korean and I don't think I'll ever forgive him for that. She sat down and left within 10 seconds. Never seen a girl leave on her own that quickly.
I disagree about the easy to know ppl that know ppl cuz its a small city. Unless you're going to the same places all the time and running in the same circles Seoul is pretty much a 'big ****ing world.' Ive been to booking clubs like 400 times over a 6 year period and while these days I do recognize girls sometimes (the regs blah) it's pretty rare tbh and thats even in Club I (which is like the only good booking club left in Seoul (along with Spot). Theres just so many friggen people here. That also explains why theres so many boyfriends/girlfriends cheating on eachother in Seoul. I mean **** like the examples you gave happens sure but there are infinite social circles and niches in Korea so what you listed is actually just rare and coincidental imo.
We'll have to agree to disagree. A lot of korean girls I hang out with are very self-conscious of their image for that very reason. I'm not talking about clubs, I just mean in general, they don't want any reputation. Btw how is club I? I've only been to Spot but I loved it.
Yeah I've been to room salons many many times, there are all different versions and types. Ironically the best and most expensive ones with the hottest of girls are room salons where you can't pay to sleep with the girls.
I think that proves my whole "they know their worth" argument
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09-28-2009
, 08:12 PM
