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Old 09-28-2009, 04:40 AM   #151
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Re: Ask A Pro about Living in Seoul, South Korea

lolol

oh rekrul just realized youre from ohio. im orig from there also. akron area
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Old 09-28-2009, 04:47 AM   #152
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my sample size is obv somewhat small

but man...even the ones that aren't 'bad people' the way they talk is so mother ****ing annoying

its like yo mr. english teacher, i don't care how hard you banged some girl last night bro aite? just shut the **** up and let me drink my jack n coke aite?

and yea when i associate with them they are usually drunk lol
Well, that last sentence probably taints the sample

For ESL teachers, drinking is as much a part of the foreigner experience in Korea as it is in Korean culture, perhaps more so. So if you're running into a foreigner at a bar, chances are that he/she is either drunk or on his/her way to it. A social outing among ESL teachers that does not involve copious amounts of alcohol is an extreme rarity. The difference between the two drinking circles is that you can reject drinking in a group of foreigners without pissing anybody off. Meanwhile, your only excuse to not drink among a group of Koreans is that you're driving. Since I don't own a car, I do not have an excuse to abstain.

If there's anything I like about Masan, it's that the foreigners here don't have that in-your-face mentality that you are talking about. Since it's a very small community and the selection of Korean girls around my age group is low, there's less of that obnoxious air that pisses people off. I've seen exactly what you're talking about and hate it as much as you do. When I was drinking in Busan (Haeundae), there was group of English teachers (I assume they were given their physical appearance) that was so obnoxious and annoying that I left the bar early, caught a bus at the terminal and went home nice and sober.
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Old 09-28-2009, 04:48 AM   #153
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wait a sec so how many of u r actually poker pros and how many have jobs

eatmefish808 why do u live in pusan seoul is where its at
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Old 09-28-2009, 04:52 AM   #154
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Well, that last sentence probably taints the sample

For ESL teachers, drinking is as much a part of the foreigner experience in Korea as it is in Korean culture, perhaps more so. So if you're running into a foreigner at a bar, chances are that he/she is either drunk or on his/her way to it. A social outing among ESL teachers that does not involve copious amounts of alcohol is an extreme rarity. The difference between the two drinking circles is that you can reject drinking in a group of foreigners without pissing anybody off. Meanwhile, your only excuse to not drink among a group of Koreans is that you're driving. Since I don't own a car, I do not have an excuse to abstain.

If there's anything I like about Masan, it's that the foreigners here don't have that in-your-face mentality that you are talking about. Since it's a very small community and the selection of Korean girls around my age group is low, there's less of that obnoxious air that pisses people off. I've seen exactly what you're talking about and hate it as much as you do. When I was drinking in Busan (Haeundae), there was group of English teachers (I assume they were given their physical appearance) that was so obnoxious and annoying that I left the bar early, caught a bus at the terminal and went home nice and sober.
umm no driving is not an excuse to not drink...haven't you ever heard of 대리운전? lol

i certainly wouldnt want to associate with a group that has people in it who 'don't drink' LOOOOL luckily this never happens in koea lol my alcoholic mind cannot comprehend this ****kkkk
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Old 09-28-2009, 04:54 AM   #155
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wait a sec so how many of u r actually poker pros and how many have jobs

eatmefish808 why do u live in pusan seoul is where its at
i play poker--im in korea because my girlfriend. we're prob returning to the US next year, around march-aprilish or so.
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Old 09-28-2009, 05:13 AM   #156
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room salons sounds like the gclubs in bkk(wich is always good times), never got to check them out last time we were in seoul, we went to club I though wich was good.
oh and club answer was awesome.
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Old 09-28-2009, 05:17 AM   #157
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umm no driving is not an excuse to not drink...haven't you ever heard of 대리운전? lol
Among the Korean groups I've been drinking with (my co-workers), having to drive is an okay reason to not drink. Otherwise, yeah you better down that soju.

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i certainly wouldnt want to associate with a group that has people in it who 'don't drink' LOOOOL luckily this never happens in koea lol my alcoholic mind cannot comprehend this ****kkkk
Really? Ditching a group of people because somebody is not interested in drinking comes off as pretty shallow.

I'm actually going 100% sober for a while as part of a social experiment (def. not becoming a teetotaler). It's only been 2 weeks. I haven't received the response that you have given from anybody; though I have gotten some weird looks from bartenders when I ordered a Diet Coke as opposed to my normal Double Jack + Diet Coke I get at a bar. Admittedly, I feel kind of sheepish when I do it but I have to stick it out.

In a few weeks, I can look things over and see if sobriety has a positive or negative impact on my social life. Maybe I can report them here.
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Old 09-28-2009, 05:25 AM   #158
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대리운전 = guys that will come and drive u home in ur car for like 8 bucks lol they are EVERYWHERE...and lol if u just tell a korean fk u im not drinking they aren't gunna harass u to drink unless they are ***** idiots

and of course its shallow, but fk it, god damn non drinking **** stay in ur ***** house
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Old 09-28-2009, 05:38 AM   #159
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I know who they are. I saw them everywhere in Seoul. Not so much in Masan.

I'd also prefer not pissing off my co-workers (especially when your boss offers) and just drink when offered.

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Old 09-28-2009, 08:58 AM   #160
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which one is u? is that modeling?
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:12 AM   #161
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wait a sec so how many of u r actually poker pros and how many have jobs

eatmefish808 why do u live in pusan seoul is where its at

ya i was a college dropout preUIGEA...

i was in jangsan for a lil while im in kijang right now... but this is extremely temporary... i only have a 3 months visa so i dont have a perm home... i've been in korea 2 years almost
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:15 AM   #162
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rekrul u big into starcraft do u know hevad khan?
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:58 AM   #163
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Korean girls are never 'cold' to non-koreans unless atleast one of these things: a. they speak 0 english b. they aren't attracted to you c. you don't have the balls to and/or didn't approach them the right way. Once you get to know them they are all people too.

I totally disagree with you about the 'they know their worth demanding and want gifts' stuff. Sure korean girls love gifts as do all girls..and yes there are lots of korean guys that fall into that web and buy girls gifts but obviously thats not standard and u dont need to. They are certainly more attracted to wealthier men to a higher degree than girls from USA or w/e though thats for sure. But even the hottest korean girls once they are in relationships will basically do everything for their man, cooking cleaning shopping w/e the *** they need korean girls loooooove to serve their men.

It's a pretty weird dichotomy for sure. I was really just trying to get at that point. Spot on w/them wanting to take care of their man. The only people who do it better are the filipinos and the thais man

Korean girls at booking clubs are easy to talk to (they are cold early on in the night but at 2 AM and after they all semi tipsy atleast and fun). At normal clubs its definitely harder but not impossible by any means just get a table and invite them...but not speaking korean certainly makes it harder. These clubs are all about going with a really solid group of guys and including some Korean guys. A group of just white guys are basically going to get no validation from korean girls but if you have solid Korean guys in ur group you'll be totally fine. Same goes with booking clubs too, too many white boys is always a bad thing unless all of them can speak Korean then it's fine. Though these days normal trance w/e clubs have wayyyy higher quality of girls than booking clubs (though like half the girls there are room salon girls lol...room salon girls = girls that work at hostess clubs (some of those hostess clubs are basically whore houses and some aren't for those that dont know what it is)).

Booking clubs are for sure the greatest. I don't go anymore because my friends are broke. I'm coming from a korean-american perspective here and I find that even w/my broken korean, I can still charm a good percentage of them. Have a funny story about etiquette that I didn't know, requiring me to go to incheon which is pretty silly. Did your american friends end up sleeping with any? This swedish kid that came with us spoke no Korean, he scared off this amazingly hot korean and I don't think I'll ever forgive him for that. She sat down and left within 10 seconds. Never seen a girl leave on her own that quickly.

I disagree about the easy to know ppl that know ppl cuz its a small city. Unless you're going to the same places all the time and running in the same circles Seoul is pretty much a 'big ****ing world.' Ive been to booking clubs like 400 times over a 6 year period and while these days I do recognize girls sometimes (the regs blah) it's pretty rare tbh and thats even in Club I (which is like the only good booking club left in Seoul (along with Spot). Theres just so many friggen people here. That also explains why theres so many boyfriends/girlfriends cheating on eachother in Seoul. I mean **** like the examples you gave happens sure but there are infinite social circles and niches in Korea so what you listed is actually just rare and coincidental imo.

We'll have to agree to disagree. A lot of korean girls I hang out with are very self-conscious of their image for that very reason. I'm not talking about clubs, I just mean in general, they don't want any reputation. Btw how is club I? I've only been to Spot but I loved it.

Yeah I've been to room salons many many times, there are all different versions and types. Ironically the best and most expensive ones with the hottest of girls are room salons where you can't pay to sleep with the girls.

I think that proves my whole "they know their worth" argument
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소주병 얼만큼 맛을수있어? and where in seoul are you living these days~
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Old 09-28-2009, 10:14 AM   #164
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소주병 얼만큼 맛을수있어?

syous what does this mean?
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Old 09-28-2009, 10:17 AM   #165
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something about drinking soju... nevermind

i just signed up for a korean class so hopefully itll help
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Old 09-28-2009, 10:20 AM   #166
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wait a sec so how many of u r actually poker pros and how many have jobs

eatmefish808 why do u live in pusan seoul is where its at
ohh i read this wrong the first time... why am i in korea"?

i met a girl
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Old 09-28-2009, 11:48 AM   #167
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rekrul u big into starcraft do u know hevad khan?

rekrul >>>>>>>hevad khan. rekrul played on hexatron lol.
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Old 09-28-2009, 11:56 AM   #168
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ohh whats hexatron... i have no clue about starcraft i just see it on tv...

talked to him a bit at satellite tables 2007 wsop... when i went home i seen him on pocketfives... i had a short conversation with him at APPT last year... but i dont really know him
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Old 09-28-2009, 03:10 PM   #169
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and of course its shallow, but fk it, god damn non drinking **** stay in ur ***** house

hey psycho....off topic but umm..what did you muck this hand? 86cc is only thing that makes sense right? o_O

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/106003

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Old 09-28-2009, 06:59 PM   #170
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are u treating it like the first hand of the match? and why is 86cc the only thing he can have?
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:12 PM   #171
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This isn't my thread, but poker talk isn't something that belongs here.
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:18 PM   #172
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ohh sorry then im not good with this forum stuff...
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:53 PM   #173
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This isn't my thread, but poker talk isn't something that belongs here.
you're right, it's not your thread. If rekrul has a high stakes hand he wants to share, I'd love to see it.
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Old 09-28-2009, 11:42 PM   #174
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lol 나 소주 계속 맛을수있어...소주 나한테 물같애 ㅋㅋ

ive been travelling so much that i don't really live anywhere but generally am around coex cuz thats the most convenient location in seoul

going back to seoul tonight woohooooo
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Old 09-28-2009, 11:50 PM   #175
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eatmefish you are probably the best poster on 2p2

also come on rek u can tell me -_-
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