Anyone to ask about living in the Philippines? - Page 257

Vucking Vish · 06-05-2012, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Temujen

In res ponse to Vucking Vish:

Yes, I am but was raised in your western food and living the western life since I was 2. I have lived in many parts of N. America, Europe, Asia and lived in and traveled all over the Middle East. I am open minded enough to realize that besides my Asian heritage and western up-bringing that there are other cultural out there besides my own.

Yes, there are some things to be proud about being an American. And if you are truly an American do you think I am less of an American than you are? And please don’t give me the retarded answer that you are white and I am not. America is the name given to this country and people living within its borders legally are called Americans regardless of race or creed.

Now, if you are a Ku Klux Klan supporter, well they where just a bunch of white folks from the bottom of the barrel who could not accept that someone of another race was up-stepping them in life.

What I don’t understand is that you find the country not to your liking but you are still there. Seems that you might be the typical westerner who travels to 3rd world countries with a narrow mind who compares themselves to the millions of people living in poverty not realizing that behind those hidden walls are millions more who have more than you do.

To the 2+2 community I want to say yes, I am a pinoy and no I don’t care that any of you choose to travel there and don’t care for what reason either if its to play poker or the women. What I cant stand are close minded people going there who have these big egos who thinks places, thing or people are inferior because it is not of a western design or western culture or race.

Do online players even realize that a pinoy born and raise there that was so poor he had walked to school barefoot is partially responsible for making it possible for computers to be built smaller and cheaper allowing us to have affordable computers and laptops. You sure wouldn’t be grinding online would you? No this isn’t a brag because I am someone special. I just think that it is important for people to have a broader outlook in life and realize that everything doesn’t revolve around them.

Mate don't take it personally, I was just winding you up a bit lol, but I still didn't really like the food that much, that's not a sin surely? Admittedly I was only there a few weeks and pretty much gave up on the local food half way through.

Not that it matters that much but I have travelled around a hell of a lot, probably more than 98% of people and have experienced food from all over, and its the only country where I genuinely struggled with the food.

FWIW I really enjoyed the Phils, the people (I mixed with the locals a lot a spent a few days with one particular family), the culture, the sights and saw loads of great stuff and would go back in a heartbeat, the food was the only negative I found tbh.

So don't take my criticism of the food to heart, I enjoyed the place and will be back. :-)

I come here for a laugh and a joke as well as to chat about travelling so that is me, no offence intended mate, if our paths ever cross I'll happily share a beer with you :-)

Vucking Vish · 06-05-2012, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul B.

Filipino food has a bad rep, but a lot of dishes are quite good imo. I really enjoy good adobo, inasal, liempo, tocino, nilaga, and sinigang if it's not too sour. The thing about the Philippines is that you can't just walk into any restaurant randomly and expect to get good food like in Malaysia or Thailand. You have to do a bit of research and find the well-reviewed places.

In hindsight I know this was 100% the case.

loosekanen · 06-05-2012, 08:35 PM

That exchange right there was something that caught my attention wrt why you need to be careful in the Philippines. Filipinos are incredibly passionate about defending themselves about lots of things (especially their "name" whatever meaning that holds) and if you go over there unprepared and open your mouth too much, even in jest, you may soon find yourself in a fight. And a fight with a filipino is not likely to be 1 on 1. More like 10 on 1. And this doesn't even consider the police bribes you'll need to pay on the other end.

Just some food for thought.

pwntatochips · 06-05-2012, 08:37 PM

what deposit options are available to put on sites like stars and ongame without having a PH bank card? are there any prepaid visas available in PH that work on sites or any ewallets that work ie. moneybookers etc?

Vucking Vish · 06-05-2012, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by loosekanen

That exchange right there was something that caught my attention wrt why you need to be careful in the Philippines. Filipinos are incredibly passionate about defending themselves about lots of things (especially their "name" whatever meaning that holds) and if you go over there unprepared and open your mouth too much, even in jest, you may soon find yourself in a fight. And a fight with a filipino is not likely to be 1 on 1. More like 10 on 1. And this doesn't even consider the police bribes you'll need to pay on the other end.

Just some food for thought.

Were all passionate about our countries mate, but yes your right the fight situation is pretty much the same in most parts of asia that I've been, and your gonna be in the deep doo doo if u get into one.

I suppose I'm used to gobbing off on the Thailand threads and getting away with it as no Thais go on those threads to pull me up

Pooter · 06-05-2012, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul B.

Filipino food has a bad rep, but a lot of dishes are quite good imo. I really enjoy good adobo, inasal, liempo, tocino, nilaga, and sinigang if it's not too sour. The thing about the Philippines is that you can't just walk into any restaurant, bar, go-go, night club, or another place of business/service providing, randomly and expect to get good food like in Malaysia or Thailand. You have to do a bit of research and find the well-reviewed places.

FYP

I think to really appreciate and enjoy PI you need to put the time and patience into finding out exactly whats what, where as Thailand you kinda rock up get off the place and everyone knows your name.

Temujen · 06-05-2012, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by loosekanen

That exchange right there was something that caught my attention wrt why you need to be careful in the Philippines. Filipinos are incredibly passionate about defending themselves about lots of things (especially their "name" whatever meaning that holds) and if you go over there unprepared and open your mouth too much, even in jest, you may soon find yourself in a fight. And a fight with a filipino is not likely to be 1 on 1. More like 10 on 1. And this doesn't even consider the police bribes you'll need to pay on the other end.

Just some food for thought.

...... Yes, I may have been defensive but wouldnt you if I said something about your heritage? All, I was saying is that people need to be more open to other cultures. In regards to who I was having my argument with it is possible he didnt get a full taste of all the filipino dishes. If you had 100 different family here in the US cook the same dish would they all taste the same? All provinces in philippines have their dishes and if you only visited a small local resto or eat with a family then offcourse that doesnt reflect on the nation since your only getting a small sample.
I've been in a few fights here in the US and they were never fair. It has always been me against some wana be gang members or crew of boyz. I also did get into a fight there in manila bay area during my last visit with a guy who tried to lift my wallet. I knocked him down and police officers not far of came over dragged him to their booth and proceeded to beat him with their night sticks.
Corruption is found in any country, the difference is that in 3rd world countries they practiced them more openly. In the western world everything is done behind close doors. How many politicians did Obama bribe do you think to get his agendas passed these last few years? Goes the same with lobbyiest (however that is spelled) do you think they dont bribe to get what they want? Just becuase it isnt happening in plain few doesnt mean it isnt happening.

nutsfl0pper · 06-05-2012, 11:37 PM

Ugh just stop temujen

D.Lovelee · 06-06-2012, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul B.

How often are you going to be grinding? I wouldn't live in Makati if you're going to be grinding everyday. Ortigas (between Megamall and Metrowalk) or Crossing (10min jeep to Metrowalk, 20min jeep to Midas Touch, 2 rides to RW) would be much more convenient.

Is this the area you recommend? Will need a agent to find a place. Too specific to search online.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=14.58...num=1&t=h&z=16

slippen1919 · 06-06-2012, 02:35 AM

99% of all expats I know or meet that has been to the Philippines, the biggest complaint is the local food. Sorry but the numbers don't lie. Sweet spag? Unless you like vinegar and soya sauce the local dishes are pretty limiting. I have lived in Asia for 10 years and I would say food is the biggest issue for expats in the Philippines. Like others have said you can't just walk in to the local joint and feel confident you will get a great meal for your pesos, like you can in Thailand or Malaysia. Sure I like adobo, tocino, etc, and some of the other dishes but the salt levels and sugar levels in things is over the top in most dishes. Sweet or Salty? those are your 2 choices...

That being said I am still living here and loving every minute of it.

Temujen · 06-06-2012, 04:40 AM

Thats funny becuase my mother cooks filpino dishes and dont use alot of salt, do not use sugar and soy sauce on a few dishes only... what it sounds like is that you have sorrounded yourself with people in poverty who use those 3 things to flavor what ever poor food they can afford to feed their families such as soy sauce with rice only... All the food you mentioned are just poor man's food. I dont have anything against it since my people have to eat but thats what they are not real dishes. Offcourse you cant walk into just any joint and expect something that isnt there. I mean when you decide to go eat here in the US dont you decide what you want to eat first such as either to have a Mcdonald or go to KFC before getting in the car? Well it is the same there unless offcourse you decide to purchase your meal from a street stall or from a small mom and pops restuarant which typically cater to the poorer people.
If thats the case all your getting are just low quality food although cheap and filling.

When i google online for advice in living in philippines majorities of expats tend to go to the poorer places where they can stretch their pesos... and yes I've check those sites becuase I plan on returning their in about 10 years or so to open an orphanage if not something of that nature.

Vucking Vish · 06-06-2012, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Temujen

Thats funny becuase my mother cooks filpino dishes and dont use alot of salt, do not use sugar and soy sauce on a few dishes only... what it sounds like is that you have sorrounded yourself with people in poverty who use those 3 things to flavor what ever poor food they can afford to feed their families such as soy sauce with rice only... All the food you mentioned are just poor man's food. I dont have anything against it since my people have to eat but thats what they are not real dishes. Offcourse you cant walk into just any joint and expect something that isnt there. I mean when you decide to go eat here in the US dont you decide what you want to eat first such as either to have a Mcdonald or go to KFC before getting in the car? Well it is the same there unless offcourse you decide to purchase your meal from a street stall or from a small mom and pops restuarant which typically cater to the poorer people.
If thats the case all your getting are just low quality food although cheap and filling.

When i google online for advice in living in philippines majorities of expats tend to go to the poorer places where they can stretch their pesos... and yes I've check those sites becuase I plan on returning their in about 10 years or so to open an orphanage if not something of that nature.

Its a mixed bag tbh mate, I frequent a few of the Phils expat chat forums, and whilst there is definitely a proportion that are as u suggest there are at least as many that are not short of cash and live a good life there in nice areas without worrying about budget.

Also of the expats I met over there none of them really seemed particularly skint to me, and I did get chatting to a fair few of them.

Temujen · 06-06-2012, 05:33 AM

Vucking:
I appreciate that your being civilan and that sarcasm is gone. Its all I ask. And your right there some expats living the good life and not short of cash. I just realized that my ex's parents now semi-live in cebu if not in the US and are suppose to be running a export/inport company.

Your not american are you? sound more like australian to me considering you use "mate" often.

Vucking Vish · 06-06-2012, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Temujen

Vucking:
I appreciate that your being civilan and that sarcasm is gone. Its all I ask. And your right there some expats living the good life and not short of cash. I just realized that my ex's parents now semi-live in cebu if not in the US and are suppose to be running a export/inport company.

Your not american are you? sound more like australian to me considering you use "mate" often.

Brit

Sarcasm is actually part of our sense of humour which does unfortunately get lost sometimes with other nationalities.

kick2dante · 06-06-2012, 07:02 AM

trying to decide what i should bring up to get temujen to rant about next.....

so many options