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Old 10-18-2009, 04:18 PM   #1
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Why Are US Players Excluded?

I know that Internet Texas Holdem offers books to US residents. Can't 2+2 use the same legal argument they do? Or is it just a gray area that is untested and currently too risky? Would the program be likely to accept US players if the UIGEA bill was pushed back a year?
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Old 10-19-2009, 09:15 AM   #2
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I know that Internet Texas Holdem offers books to US residents. Can't 2+2 use the same legal argument they do? Or is it just a gray area that is untested and currently too risky? Would the program be likely to accept US players if the UIGEA bill was pushed back a year?
The book bonus is part of a referral program, and people in the US can't play on the sites which 2+2 works with.
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Old 11-11-2009, 11:39 AM   #3
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danielbell has a point, why can't we in the US get the same benefit?
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Old 11-11-2009, 12:39 PM   #4
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danielbell has a point, why can't we in the US get the same benefit?
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people in the US can't play on the sites which 2+2 works with.
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Old 11-11-2009, 10:56 PM   #5
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Re: Why Are US Players Excluded?

What's stopping 2+2 from making these deals sites that accept US players, like Cake, FTP, Stars, etc.?
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Old 11-12-2009, 01:35 AM   #6
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What's stopping 2+2 from making these deals sites that accept US players, like Cake, FTP, Stars, etc.?
This has to do with our legal advice. We would certainly like to offer this promotion to everyone, but at this time the advice we have received is not to do it. If it changes in the future, then our Bonus Books Program will also change.

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Old 12-03-2009, 03:42 PM   #7
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i understand why they dont except us players,"better to be safe then sorry"
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Old 12-03-2009, 04:29 PM   #8
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i understand why they dont except us players,"better to be safe then sorry"
They actually do except US players. They don't accept us though.
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Old 12-04-2009, 02:08 AM   #9
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What's stopping 2+2 from making these deals sites that accept US players, like Cake, FTP, Stars, etc.?
Well, 2+2 is fully an US-based company and therefore in much easier reach of the US legal system, while sites like Cake, FTP, Stars, etc, are NOT US based.
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Old 12-04-2009, 09:17 AM   #10
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Its not for the legalities, as mason alluded to

The real reason is that we just dont like americans here. They talk too loudly , carry their cameras arround their necks, yet never take photos, chew tabaccee and carry far too many guns around in their huntin pickup trucks
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Old 12-04-2009, 12:32 PM   #11
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Its not for the legalities, as mason alluded to

The real reason is that we just dont like americans here. They talk too loudly , carry their cameras arround their necks, yet never take photos, chew tabaccee and carry far too many guns around in their huntin pickup trucks
I think you are confusing Americans with Republicans. It's ok, everyone makes mistakes.
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Old 12-04-2009, 02:43 PM   #12
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I think you are confusing Americans with Republicans. It's ok, everyone makes mistakes.
Lol. I'm not even a Repubulican, but I'm pretty sure there are some Dems out there that like tobacco and carry cameras around lol. And, Eastern Kentucky raised hick that I am, I know plenty of Dems that drive around in their muddy pickups killing critters.

The other problem with Americans is they inject politics into conversations where it just doesn't seem to fit quite right. They're also quick to point out they're not like those "other Americans" whenever they feel they must justify their existence to them cool people from across the ocean
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Old 12-05-2009, 01:34 AM   #13
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Its not for the legalities, as mason alluded to

The real reason is that we just dont like americans here. They talk too loudly , carry their cameras arround their necks, yet never take photos, chew tabaccee and carry far too many guns around in their huntin pickup trucks
You've obviously never been around a group of Japanese tourists.
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Old 12-05-2009, 03:38 AM   #14
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lol ya the japense alway taking picture of EVERYTHING its so funny, and they are alway like 20 :P
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Old 12-09-2009, 02:39 PM   #15
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Lol. I'm not even a Repubulican, but I'm pretty sure there are some Dems out there that like tobacco and carry cameras around lol. And, Eastern Kentucky raised hick that I am, I know plenty of Dems that drive around in their muddy pickups killing critters.
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And I think you're confusing Republicans with people from the South.
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Old 12-14-2009, 09:00 AM   #16
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Its not for the legalities, as mason alluded to

The real reason is that we just dont like americans here. They talk too loudly , carry their cameras arround their necks, yet never take photos, chew tabaccee and carry far too many guns around in their huntin pickup trucks
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carry their cameras arround their necks, yet never take photos
I'm pretty sure thats asians.
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Old 01-20-2010, 05:33 AM   #17
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I'm pretty sure thats asians.
Just to inform everyone, both american and japanese tourists always seem to have their cameras around their necks.

THe difference is in the ratio of photos taken by the japs to the yanks. According to my research, this seems to approach infinity, as the japs are happily snapping away, while the yanks never seem to take a single shot
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Old 01-20-2010, 02:09 PM   #18
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ah the land of the free, i wish us europeans could enjoy the same freedom you americans have!
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Old 01-20-2010, 11:52 PM   #19
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Just to inform everyone, both american and japanese tourists always seem to have their cameras around their necks.

THe difference is in the ratio of photos taken by the japs to the yanks. According to my research, this seems to approach infinity, as the japs are happily snapping away, while the yanks never seem to take a single shot
Hm, U R from Australia. It's shoulda be one of those small European countries?
Let me explain ya brother. American poker playars are all reach enough to buy a books they like. We don't like free bonuses. That's why we excluded.
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Old 01-21-2010, 02:02 PM   #20
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I guess its better to be safe than sorry, sucks for the US players but differences are ment to be (Anyone know why PS wont ship to EU some VIP Store items btw?)

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Hm, U R from Australia. It's shoulda be one of those small European countries?
Let me explain ya brother. American poker playars are all reach enough to buy a books they like. We don't like free bonuses. That's why we excluded.
I sure hope Iam leveling myself into this
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Old 02-13-2010, 06:29 PM   #21
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Its always best to side with caution especially when you could be going up against uncle sam.
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Old 02-15-2010, 03:43 PM   #22
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ah the land of the free, i wish us europeans could enjoy the same freedom you americans have!
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Old 02-18-2010, 08:51 AM   #23
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Legality issues??
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Old 03-26-2010, 08:26 AM   #24
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ah the land of the free, i wish us europeans could enjoy the same freedom you americans have!
LOL

It is a bit ironic that America is busy spreading democracy round the world yet doesn't offer their own citizens the same freedoms.

*Sigh*

I really hope this stupid law gets over turned in the very near future and the morality police get stuck into something else.

Good luck my colonial cousins.
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Old 08-21-2010, 02:56 PM   #25
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LOL

It is a bit ironic that America is busy spreading democracy round the world yet doesn't offer their own citizens the same freedoms.

*Sigh*

I really hope this stupid law gets over turned in the very near future and the morality police get stuck into something else.

Good luck my colonial cousins.

It's exactly the type of democracy they're spreading that has most of us liberty loving Americans scared s***-less!!
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