Full Tilt Poker Game #31463703819: $1K Monday (243433664), Table 3 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:48:33 CT - 2012/11/19 [15:48:33 ET - 2012/11/19]
Seat 1: gosuoposum1 (4,303)
Seat 2: Stamdogg (1,672)
Seat 3: GetPWN3D (5,125)
Seat 5: C Darwin2 (6,686)
Seat 6: SpanishKey (4,486)
Seat 7: PoutsoKefalos (12,485)
Seat 8: Mrluckypants (7,416)
Seat 9: Eiffel (3,850)
SpanishKey posts the small blind of 80
PoutsoKefalos posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GetPWN3D [Qs Kh]
Mrluckypants folds
Eiffel folds
gosuoposum1 folds
Stamdogg has 15 seconds left to act
Stamdogg folds
GetPWN3D has 15 seconds left to act
GetPWN3D raises to 340
C Darwin2 folds
SpanishKey has 15 seconds left to act
SpanishKey calls 260
PoutsoKefalos calls 180
*** FLOP *** [Ks Jh 6s] (Total Pot: 1,020, 3 Players)
SpanishKey checks
PoutsoKefalos has 15 seconds left to act
PoutsoKefalos checks
GetPWN3D has 15 seconds left to act
GetPWN3D checks
*** TURN *** [Ks Jh 6s] [Kd] (Total Pot: 1,020, 3 Players)
SpanishKey has 15 seconds left to act
SpanishKey bets 673
PoutsoKefalos folds
GetPWN3D has 15 seconds left to act
GetPWN3D has requested TIME
GetPWN3D calls 673
*** RIVER *** [Ks Jh 6s Kd] [3c] (Total Pot: 2,366, 2 Players)
SpanishKey has 15 seconds left to act
SpanishKey bets 3,473, and is all in
GetPWN3D has 15 seconds left to act
GetPWN3D has requested TIME

He's a reg, and very solid one at that. We have played tons with each other in the past. Checked back flop for pot control and deception (same reason I just flatted turn). River he's jamming for 1.5x pot...and isn't the type to do this thinly for value or as a bluff IMO. Thoughts?

BeL0W

Very polarizing on this river.

Sorry Im snapping here. I just think you're underepping your range to induce the spazz often enough for a snap to be profitable. I think he's going to be value owned so often.

It's gross sometimes, but I feel he's turning his hand or pure bluffing enough.

bet flop call river

Most importantly was your custom avatar still in effect when FTP came back online?

He probably thinks KQ/KT are the nuts here, JJ is never flatting pre, plus throw in a few bluffs and that's enough combos that I think you have to call but IDK Villain.

looks like we have the top of our range here has to be a call
even solid regs bluff every so often and he could easily vbet worse even for 1.5x pot

He probably thinks QQ is the top of your range. Gotta call

this. cant fold here.

I like checking the flop and calling turn. as played call river. Not super happy but can't find a fold;

What range would over shove there ? If you have QQ you'll most likely fold there, so what is he trying to get value from, from your perceived range?

Pretty sick spot giving your reads. But I don't think he flats pre with KJo, JJ OOP, so we are beaten by only 4 combos and often enough he will valuebet 66 with smaller sizing, as your calling range is weak here.
It's very bad river card to bluff, but who knows. I'm calling

yeah my avatar was with my account when I got it back, as were former red pros.

Villain did flat AQ vs my open in SB a level to 3 levels previously, So I couldn't rule out him flatting JJ and planning to just let me barrel off to him like I did on Ace high flop earlier with 6 high on an ace high flop. I could also see him flatting AK/ KJss here for same barrel value reasons.

Also BB had big stack and was very squeezy pre-flop so he could be trying to induce him, and in general I probably give villain wayy more credit then most regs when they 3-bet and he knows it...and probably abuses it from time to time lol.

I definitely agree, top of my range appears to be QQ/AJ here. I was definitely trying to induce spazzy river action on such brick rivers by flatting turn, but wasn't counting on 1.5x pot jam, more so him betting 1/2 pottish, and me jamming and him saying "wtf is that? You can't have a king, you've been c-betting all flops and you checked back..I have AJ+ and your spew king BeL0WaB0Ve" and have him hit call.

I don't really see him ever bluffing here, and I think he has minimum Kx here, so KTs maybe, KJs, KQo/AK....2 beat us, 1 we lose to, 1 we chop but have to call 1.5x pot to do so. I also could see him jamming AA for value having me on QQ/AJ and hoping I'd call. AJ might be a possibility as some kind of merge where sometimes he gets me to fold QQ/checked back AA, and sometimes I just hero it off w QJ/JT/J9.

IDK...he stumped me good....used pretty much my whole time bank before deciding what to do.

BeL0W

SpanishKey is Aaron Been right? his videos lead strongly to one decision. i won't go into detail out of respect to him.

Call, you lose to KJ and 66 and he can have the same hand as you. There are a lot of missed draws, and your hand looks more like QQ or Jx than a KQ. He could also have KTs I suppose.

Folding this hand would be very exploitable (which doesn`t mean its bad) but it does mean on a forum everyone`s gonna say call, so if I decided to fold I would use my whole bank cry fold and never tell anyone and I would need to have a live read to make it.

Last point, I have no idea why he can`t be bluffing, he has plenty of hands that don`t have a pair on the river and he can decide to bluff, and if he`s bluffing I think shoving is probably the best size.

Call! And like someone else said, if SpanishKey is AaronBeen it's pretty interesting since he made a video that pretty much only covered overbetting the river, heh. Neither will I go into details.

Anyways, I think you just have to call here. I don't see him calling from the SB with jacks that often and let BB in that cheap. Would have been different if he sat in the BB imo. There are way too many hands that you beat for this to be a fold in my opinion. I mean, even a lot of hands that he thinks he is valuebetting and I think this specific villain would play his draws this way.

how is it out of respect for him if the videos are public?

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Hasn't it been like 2 years since you played with him? People change a lot in that period of time. Call for game theory reasons and take a note.

EDIT

Just saw it was Aaron Been. Call and take a note on stars, too!

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good point. ok he claims to like to exploit capped ranges (made a full video on it) so i would snap call and high five my cat.

curious what the results are in this hand. would be sick if he made a series about game theory overbets and then just nitted sweaters vs BeL0W

would do the same, but would fist bump cat instead.

yaaaa f1atting in sb with AQ with 50+bb stacks means he'd f1at JJ/AK in this sp0t with <35 bb stacks haha? what absurdity

As f0r the hand/aar0n is a g00d en0ugh p0ker p1ayer t0 va1ue sh0ve AA/AJ/KTs/KQ esp vs y0u s0 h0w is it anything but a sighca11 expect t0 be beat sometimes etc and a b1uff every n0w n then

AJ isn't a ****ing "merge" g0ddamn idi0ts thr0wing that term around 101 having n0 idea its used just because y0u s0metimes her0 f01d y0ur v few c0mb0s 0f QQ/AA, its ca11ed a 'thin va1ue bet' and sometimes when y0u make a 'thin va1ue bet' y0u 'va1ue cut y0urse1f'

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I agree with steve and ca11. He's repping a boat where you seem to have a super weak range but he jams huge anyway not giving you a chance to FPS bluff your QT...

if you think his flacalling range can be strong isnt it a good reason to bet flop?

There is a reason for not naming the villain in particular spots.

IMO the mods has been to lenient in that regard. In this thread players are talking about what the villains tendencies are, not what the best play is in a vacuum against a solid high stakes player. Big difference.

Fine imo.
He's a well known regular who puts out instructional videos explaining how he plays.