5,000 ante. 15,000. 30,000 blinds.
Villain is a young asian that has been playing standard ranges pre flop. Hero is a young good TAG.

Villain has 1.2 millon. Hero has 1.8 million

Villain opens hijack to 75,000.

folds to Hero in the big blind who Flats with As Jh

flop comes: Ah 3h 9h

Hero checks

Villain bets 85,000

Hero calls.

turn is 3s

Hero Checks

Villain bets 165,000

Hero calls.

River kd

Hero Checks

Villain bets 385,000

Hero????

Please post reasons for your decision and why.

Played fine so far. Now I fold

His 2 barrelling range includes all premium aces (even those that don't have a heart), a naked K, sets, flushes, and maybe a few naked bluffs.

Once he bets the river though, that pretty much eliminates the naked Kh, as that would probably check behind. Maybe he turns that into a bluff, but probably not, otherwise he's 3 barrelling his entire range here. That pretty much leaves hands that have you beat, and maybe a weirdly played bluff that had very little equity the whole way.

Call.

As played, you could easily have a naked broadway heart that you would fold to a river bet so he has to have some bluffs in his range.

The K river gives him incentive to try to push you off a chop if he's holding A2-A5 and AT. If he has AK, so be it, but there aren't too many AK combos left.

I think he's checking back any K, trying to push you off your A if he has one, rarely has A9, even more rarely has a 3, and though a flush is possible, you block some of his likely flush holdings.

Hard to think he has 99, though not impossible. Think he would bet smaller on turn to hope you would find that heart on the river if he had 99.

I think if we're folding to a third barrel on this runout, which seems pretty good, we ought to be giving up earlier at this depth.

id think about block betting the turn for 1/4 pot for value here then id just lead small again otr
this line is fine and i guess its a pretty sick spot otr, we block so much of his value range here so i guess id just call

I feel like from a balanced perspective we have to call some of our aces here, and having the Jh would make this one of the best calls. But feels pretty gross, because some will really underbluff this river. Then again, some will overbluff, especially since it seems a bit hard for him to have too much value here, and since we block some flushed broadways. I probably exploitatively fold this in the main but hate it.

We have to call with all of our quads, boats and sets. We're not going to have AK very often as we should be 3-betting that preflop. We will have A9 and may have some A3s, so we can call with those hands, but that might not be enough. So I think we probably need to call with some Ax, and if we're picking Ax hands to call with it's almost certainly going to be those with either the Qh or Jh because those block the most likely heart combos our opponent has.

It's gross. I think from a theoretical standpoint we probably have to call, but if you tell me you want to fold I wouldn't be that upset.

Shouldnt hero 3bet here pre almost every time? And can somebody who is really qualified to break this down without having more infos about this spot? And im just getting confused to see all these thoughts...can some endboss come and analyse this and we all can go aha?

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JP,

I think we have to call with all of our flushes before we call with all of our sets, right? We have khqh, khjh, khth, qhjh, qjth and jhth, and maybe a couple of others like 8h7h and 7h6h.

Why do you think a 3bet pre is good? It's never horrible to 3bet AJ, but typically you wanna go for weaker hands as bluffs or stronger hands for value. This hand makes a lot of money as a call.

This

3b is pretty silly here,even tho it's pretty hi up in ur bb calling range


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Ugh, yeah. We can then justify folding some more Ax combos with heart blockers. Still really gross though and AxJh is one of the better blocker combos we can have.

Yep. AJs might be a reasonable 3-bet for value, I can maybe argue AQo as a 3-bet for value. AJo is pretty much a call.

I agree. This is almost a pure guess spot. I like lolposting's idea of a blocker bet on the turn, folding it to a raise.

As played, the decision depends on meta-issues not described in the OP -- which is to say, it's a very close question.

AJ is too good to 3bet when you are this deep because it would suck to get 4bet.

Probably need more info on villain to adequately assess this hand but you have to think about what your hand looks like to him. After doing that, it's probably a call.

As an aside, this forum needs more WSOP ME hands. I will try to post some more of mine later this week.

This type of hand is so impossible to offer advice on because it mostly comes down to game flow and reads on the villain. Is it a spot where you're expecting him to 3-barrel light or not? The problem with this spot is that there's really no good place to get a bet in, so we're stuck in the spot of just calling down and hoping he hits the brakes.

It's tough in this spot because we have a strong draw in addition to a made hand, but generally the decision has to be made on the turn. If you're calling the turn, you should have a good idea what rivers you're calling, what ones you're folding, etc. You're not going to gain much information on later streets IMO. Some villains aren't capable of 3-barreling light and against them, calling turn to fold river is fine, but if you feel like villain is capable of it, then the turn is the ultimate decision point IMO.

lol @ hero description of hero

wth?

Worth noting that hero still has more than 35 BB if he calls and loses, and that's a very workable stack.

think stop and go block betting turn is sexy and the game needs more of this.

As played, if we don't have any aggro reads and seeing we chop or lose I would fold to the 3rd, population doesn't always 3 barrel bluffs but will always do so when they at the top of their range, pretty scary texture to bluff too so I would say he would be more weighted towards value then bluffs in this particular spot.

I think this is one of those "theoretical calls with the Jh blocker" but in practice it's a fold. People don't play optimal GTO poker so it's hard to always play against the theoretical playstyle. Very few people are 4 barrel bluffing into a bigger stack like that deep in the main event. It's a fold for me.

I agree with this. Although I was thinking that maybe that river is a good river to make a large donk bet. But I am still thinking about it. The villain isn't going to fold worse, but you might push them off a chop.

If we fold AJ here, what hands are we calling? (We have some good blockers tho )
Also leading that turn is ******ed esp in this spot (no offense) what are we repping? What 3x do we have in our range ? Do we lead w/ A3 ?
Do we lead with a flush ?
People just lead turns without to much thought process.
Anyway, we should make our decision ott as @zimmer4141 mentioned, but really depends on what level is V tho ( also some game flow , reads etc helps in our decisions )


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Yea didn't see that it was monotone so not as in love w the turn lead strategy


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do think having the jh helps though blocking some of the flopped flushes hes repping.

Happily just flatting pre, 3bet doesn't seem like a great idea although obv it can't be terrible

Really meh spot on the river, I call tho