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Old 06-17-2012, 08:06 PM   #16
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Re: WSOP 1500$ NL, KK vs weird flop donk over bet

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Table is soft after Isildur busted vs villain few hands before the break.

In that on a hand Villain called a raise pre from SB, donked 70% J86dd board, donked again 600 on a 2c and called a big raise from Isildur, river d e gg Isildur who was committed.
which 2 diamonds did he have? what percentage of the pot was the 600 bet? how big was the raise? how much did he have left on the river?

if he bets, bets/calls draws, then u obv want to flat flop and ship turn.
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Old 06-20-2012, 08:30 AM   #17
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Re: WSOP 1500$ NL, KK vs weird flop donk over bet

It's easy to say something in retrospect but when people over-bet the flop they almost always have a super strong hand and are worried about draws rather than having draws themselves.
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Old 06-20-2012, 10:59 AM   #18
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Re: WSOP 1500$ NL, KK vs weird flop donk over bet

I would say his range is weighted to what he thinks is a strong hand, but this a lot of the time means TT-QQ that called to make sure they got a good flop and now are bombing before another heart or the dread ACE comes. Plus, there is only one legitimate 2pr combination (and we aren't doing THAT badly against 89, with 5 outs on turn, 8 on river, plus the bdfd).

We are 50% against a range of 22, 88, 99, TT+, 89s, 89o, and QJs. I think we are doing even better than that because he rarely has AA, and sometimes has flush draws or even A9s or T9s. Just taking AA out makes us 56%. Can't fold. So do whatever does the best to get his widest range in against us.
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:17 AM   #19
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Re: WSOP 1500$ NL, KK vs weird flop donk over bet

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Obv the goods! Set of 8s
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:39 AM   #20
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Re: WSOP 1500$ NL, KK vs weird flop donk over bet

I'd prob flat to jam turn or tank shove if I think he calls with 1 pair hands.
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:01 PM   #21
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Re: WSOP 1500$ NL, KK vs weird flop donk over bet

Isnt it better to flat when we have K from draw and evaluate turn?
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