come back from dinner break, blinds are 150-300 25 ante.

villain is a middle-aged woman who seems to play terrible postflop- puts in a ton of money w weird hands in weird spots and cbets huge regularly. 3 hands prior, she opens utg to 700, i jam in 4k from mp, she folds.

i start the hand w ~6k, she covers.
folds to her on button. she makes it 800. sb folds. i look down at ktcc. i call. flop k98 two tone (not my fl draw). i chk, she bets 800, i shove.

pf call? flop line?

fwiw, she seems to make more aggro mistakes than passive ones, which could be an argument for c/c flop

Jam pre and watch her fold an ace face up

Seems fine, shoving fine too

i bet she has TT-QQ alot after she bets 800 here. i bet folding pre is best and jamming is bad.

This is one of the few times with this stack size I'd advocate a very small check/raise on the flop. Pre all options are pretty close.

i let her hang herself and c/c flop, turn and river. probably way ahead and she's drawing to a max 4 outs.

ps - then i pull out my stash of hay and throw it at her.

AIPF intuitively seems better to me than calling. As played, I am definitely not crai'ing. If she makes aggressive mistakes, let her bluff or vb worse on the turn and river.

Shove pre, 3 bet or fold as K10 does not play well SB and flatting probably worst choice. Post as played fine.

fold/shove pre. flop seems fine.

logic behind flatting pre is that i don't want to race it up here w 20 bb (expect her to call pretty light- a7 and small pairs- cause ive been abusing her for the last 3 hands (forgot to mention the hand before i minraise utg, folds to her in bb, she calls and ultimately folds turn to one more bet). feel like its not devastating to brick a flop here and c/f to her psb. and as far as hands that i'm willing to take to the streets in this spot...i could do a lot worse than kts.

logic behind c/raise flop was that i wanted to give her a chance to bet at least once, and then i didn't want a scare card to either spoil my action or demote my hand to second best. thinking at least the second part of my flop reasoning was no good. thought she could call as light as random 8x's, certainly tj and tt.

What's her stack in this hand?

Random middle aged women won't be calling your shove anywhere near optimally so you scoop a heap of dead money by jamming. She only needs to fold ~50% of the time and even when she calls with something like 66+, A7s+, ATo+ KTs+, QJs+ (she probably isn't calling quite that wide contrary to your belief that she will) you'll have close to 40% equity. "I don't want to race it up here with 20bb" is pretty poor logic.

I understand why you wanted to flat and I think it's okay, but you should be aware that this is a really good resteal spot and if you're passing up edges like this with 20bb you're costing yourself money.

yea seems like a pretty standard shove here to me (pf) as played i prob cib otf and b/c...b/c
also what are your plans on a25 flops....877 etc

I dont like ur line at all. Either fold or jam pre, i def jam. On flop ck/jamming doesnt give her a chance to put more money in with air. It def sucks to have a bad card hit turn cuz u kinda have to overplay ur hand since its so underrepped, but these flop spots are easily avoidable by jamming pre imo

is your advocation of pf shove based on the assumption she's opening wide and won't call light? does your opinion change if she's opening 25% of hands and calling 20%?


on a25 i'm c/f most of the time. 877 i might choose to lead if i have a backdoor fl draw.
i'm c/shoving basically every fl draw, oesd, and t hi flop. will consider c/c some k hi flops and dry t hi flops (more likely to c/c k hi obv)