Hey guys. I just played a live 500 buyin event, the prize pool was 15k around 30 entries top 4 pay.

1st : $7700
2nd: $4200
3rd : $2000
4th : $1100

9 handed, blinds 1/2k with 300 antes

(The ft has been very tight with a lot of short stacks)

BB: 32k
Utg+1 : 60k
Hero: 40k ish

There has been one or two limps during the whole 800/1600 level (30 min blinds) and so utg+1's limp smelled very fishy

Utg+1 limps for 2k.
Folds to hero in the SB with: Kh Kd
Hero raises to 7k.
Bb folds and villain shoves.

I have a lot of history with villain, and am almost certain he wouldn't do this with Jacks< . I was in the moment and just snapped it because I had pocket Kings.

I guess this could have been the one time I fold Kings pre (since I've never done it)..

If he showed you AK or 1010 would you have made this thread? Had your KK won vs his AA would you have made this thread?

It is so rare that kings are folded pre correctly in an MTT, especially to just one opponent who limp 3 bet.

A satellite is about the only format in which you can easily fold KK, given the correct scenario. Otherwise, and here, just no.

So in mtts, Kings are never folded pre?

Very very very seldomly. . and usually not to 1 raise facing a single opponent. It was a really bad beat and your being quite results oriented. As played, you were dealt a bustout. On to the next.

I think I'm posting this thread here because I knew in the back of my head somewhere I had a fold button. For the amount of money we're playing for/ and all the history I have with villain I just wish I could have taken 1 minute and figured it out. (Instead of seeing two Kings and snapping, on instinct)

Anyway, thanks for input

You make it sound like you had a pair of fours, I understand that you are dissapointed but this is as far away as you can come from folding KK pre.

A buddy of mine folded Kings pf, to a meganit( folds Jacks otf to three baby cards ), once the meganit 3b pre- he said he just knew he had aces and made the right fold.

Now the villain I face on my OP (whom I have over 2+ yrs live history with) would never ever in a million years limp/jam AQ, AJ, 10s>. Not in this tournament , and not in this spot.

Jack's and queens are what I'm.hoping he flips over, which is a pretty narrow range. (The limp/shove was just reaking of aces) I play live mostly and not online so I really count on my people-reading abilities/ tells.

That would have been awesome if I laid it down and he showed me aces 😁

JJ/QQ is not as narrow a range as AA.....

Omg!! Really???

I limp-shove AQo with 15-20bb. Probly wouldn't do it with 30, but I could definitely put AK in villain's range there, if not AQ. Snap call and a bummer. To fold kings it has to be 4bet from a guy with 0% 3bet, basically.

I think u took it in the wrong way bro. I'm just saying.. you're trying to justify a fold because the hands you crush are JJ/QQ which are a narrow range...

to quote: Jack's and queens are what I'm.hoping he flips over, which is a pretty narrow range.


But its twice the amount of combos than AA, so I don't understand this point of view. You should obv never fold and as mentioned if you win the hand/see JJ QQ / see AK then this thread doesn't exist

I just timed out with Kings in the milli while writing this, hope you're happy

glgl

The shove does not reek of AA. It looks like AK to TT or something, trying to get allin or win a decent pot without a flop. It looks like UTG has a hand like that and is afraid of playing a big pot OOP postflop with it. Villain's making this play with AA is just awful. You lose so much action that way.

He's not oop..?

I agree
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i wouldn't even consider folding in this situation

surely it must be one or the other

you put one (or more) finger(s) on each hole card and move both hands simultaneously forward until you hear the deal say "Fold".

This

No, both. The limp/shove is a bad way to play QQ+, and particularly AA. The limp/shove reeks of a big ace or mid pp. There are limp/reraise and other reraise plays that reek of, or at least represent, AA or QQ+, but this one does not.

Clearly results oriented.

OP, I'm being serious, if this spot is tough for you, you should not be wasting $500 in a tournament. I'm not trying to be mean, I'm trying to be honest. This is a simple spot and the entire poker community would become sexually aroused by having someone shove against them whilst they hold king and king and a 20bb stack.

+1

Villain is being silly limp shoving pp,TT, or a big ace at a ft.
OP, I'm guessing he had AK?

If you already know this, why are you making a thread? If you think you should have folded, then just fold next time.

You keep saying your reasoning for folding is your "history" but none of us know what that is. No one will agree with you here. Try BBV