Hello Guys,

Yesterday i played the $215 Battle Royal at Pokerstars, a progressive Knockout Bounty MTT.
There were 1031 entries and we were down to 35 players, when the following hand happend.
I slightly covered my opponent who had a bounty of around $250 on his head. Our stacks were in the midfield of the remaining players.
I had very less informations about my opponent.

PokerStars - 3500/7000 Ante 700 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 50.92 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 15.00, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 21)
Hero (BTN): 36.53 BB
SB: 42.78 BB (VPIP: 17.92, PFR: 15.51, 3Bet Preflop: 3.97, Hands: 322)
BB: 20.7 BB (VPIP: 20.80, PFR: 12.40, 3Bet Preflop: 2.56, Hands: 125)
UTG: 20.84 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 23.81, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 21)
UTG+1: 24.88 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
MP: 53.2 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 21)
MP+1: 34.4 BB (VPIP: 9.52, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 21)
MP+2: 35.04 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)

9 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has K A

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 2.25 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 6 BB, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 3.75 BB

Flop: (14.4 BB, 2 players) 4 7 9
MP+1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: (14.4 BB, 2 players) K
MP+1 checks, Hero bets 5.18 BB, MP+1 raises to 18 BB, Hero ???

What does he check/raise here!?

On the flop my plan was to check back the flop and float his turn bet and decide on the river to maybe call with A high another bet or fold.
What you think about this line with AK on this dry Board?
After i hit the K on the turn the situation was new.

Thanks for your answers!

Think we do better x'ing ott, then calling all rivers..as played, would call now, and call otr shove. In Vs eyes, we are likely betting all of our K high hands otf, and ofc we can rep ak ott...prob has some semi's like qj-jtcc. Would think 99, 77 prob lead this turn a good % of the time, k9s is left w 2 combos.

LOL @ checking this turn. We want to bluff this card like 100% of the time so we definitely want to value bet it as well.

Why did you go with such a small turn bet?

Not having a club I'm calling down.

turn bet was 36% pot size. i think on this pretty dry board its standard.

Lol

So you're checking back turn 100% of the time with your flop checking range?

Don't really like your 3bet sizing (I will throw a couple of blinds in there ) cus I wanna get stacks in by ott.
Checking turn = results oriented.....

OP what bluffs can V have here that we can continue ott? (Such a dry board w/ no actual draws)
I would just fold


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Fyp

3bet sizing is good imo, given stacks, positions. Why polarize our range

as played, a fold looks maybe weak but i realy consider it's the best option.
i think i would better check back the turn and call every river bet.

i think i should only betting the turn with 2pairs, sets and to balance with picked up draws on the turn like two clubs ...

the problem is that you will have little to no combos of sets and 2pair after 3betting pre and checking back flop. AK should be very very near the top of your range for taking that line so it has to be a fairly easy call turn/call river spot. there are so few hands that beat you since he cant rly have 2pair and might even fold 77 to a 3b pre.

yeah, but what does he bluff here to justify calling to the end ...!?

thats the wrong question to ask because you simply cant figure that out. he may call wide pre against your 3b and have all sorts of straight draws, he might decide to checkraise with his fds, he might turn 22 or whatever into a bluff etc. rather ask yourself how high up in your own range you actually are, what kind of odds you are being laid and how wide you want to defend against a checkraise like this. you can find answers to those questions because you know what hands you 3b with, what hands you check flop with etc. if you cant have a better hand in this spot then you shouldn't fold your hand.

Yeah didn't realized there's a FD on board (thought was rainbow ) now turn looks close (I said bet/f) we should bet/c sometimes tho and call some good rivers.


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I'm calling the turn. He can have plenty of flush / str8 draw combos since we don't hold the A of clubs. There are only 2 combos of sets (7s and 9s - he's very likely fold 44 off this stack size and maybe 77). If the river is not a club, Q or J I'm def calling the jam.

ehh can we really call turn? he has like 10bb behind on the river, surely we can never fold then? seems like shove or fold on the turn, and I'd go with shoving i think.

thanks, your answer helped me a lot.
i think i would also check back AA and KK on this flop to let him hit maybe a Q with AQ or KQ. i'm not afraid that he has 56 or 68 and giving him a free card for his straight draw.
so after hitting the K on the turn, i may check back one more time with my value hands of KK, AA, AK.

yeah, that was my thought at that time. and i decided ot shove.

here is how the hand ends ...

PokerStars - 3500/7000 Ante 700 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

CO: 50.92 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 15.00, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 21)
Hero (BTN): 36.53 BB
SB: 42.78 BB (VPIP: 17.92, PFR: 15.51, 3Bet Preflop: 3.97, Hands: 322)
BB: 20.7 BB (VPIP: 20.80, PFR: 12.40, 3Bet Preflop: 2.56, Hands: 125)
UTG: 20.84 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 23.81, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 21)
UTG+1: 24.88 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
MP: 53.2 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 21)
MP+1: 34.4 BB (VPIP: 9.52, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 21)
MP+2: 35.04 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)

9 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has Ks Ah
fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 2.25 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 6 BB, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 3.75 BB

Flop : (14.4 BB, 2 players) 4c 7h 9s
MP+1 checks, Hero checks

Turn : (14.4 BB, 2 players) Kc
MP+1 checks, Hero bets 5.18 BB, MP+1 raises to 18 BB, Hero raises to 30.43 BB and is all-in, MP+1 calls 10.3 BB and is all-in

River : (71 BB, 2 players) 4s

MP+1 shows 4d 4h (Four of a Kind, Fours)
(Pre 54%, Flop 100%, Turn 100%)

Hero shows Ks Ah (Two Pair, Kings and Fours)
(Pre 46%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)

MP+1 wins 71 BB

Not c-bettting this texture seems like terrible mistake.

This is an easy shove even though he had it this time.

Vs a random I doubt this is good approach, also doubt a lot of people x/r as a bluff (semibluff) in spots like this.


Agree w/ this , we should def Cbet here.



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you mean on the flop or you mean a delayed cbet on the turn?

if you mean flop, why it's a terrible mistake? because my range is on this flop definitely better then his calling range, and so i have to protect?

By c-betting 0.2-0.33 pot with all range u will:
1) Get called by worst.
2) Fold opponent from considerable equity.
3) Get free river if u decided not to double barrel (unless he donks on turn which he really should not do).
4) Play your whole range much more easily on future streets.