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Blinds 800/1600/200, table is playing 8-handed

Villain: 30 yr old, possibly middle eastern American wearing a hat, who was relatively inactive and seems to play fairly snug ABC poker. Only hand I'd seen him show down was KK when he opened from the BTN at 600/1200/200, the SB (Sean Yu) shoved 35BB with 66 and villain called with KK and held, eliminating Yu.

Villain UTG (71K) opens 3500 and it folds around to us in the BB with KQo. We have 1600 in on the BB and 84K behind. What's your play and why?

Make it 33.5k to find out where you're at. Fold if he goes all in. Next question.

Sorry, but don't see other option than flatting (easiest flat ever giving description) see a flop and go from there.


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And they don't even pay you for your time!

yea seriously ^ 3b is just stupid vs utg so just call and see 3

Shove and expose the K

FWIW if you look at it from a 10-handed perspective the opener is actually UTG+2 because we are 8-handed, which widens his range slightly.

I flattered and the flop came KQ3. What do we do now? If you check and he bets 4K, then what?

Then you call. He has top sets and you rarely (never?) do. You do not want to xr this flop texture when your opponents have a big range advantage. This also protects your xc range because you have a bunch of Kxs/Qxs that would xc this flop.

Flat pre (you have 35% equity even against a ridiculously strong range)

X/c flop is best in my opinion. QQ/KK solidly in his range with AQ+/10+ as a pretty standard opening from a player like this UTG (maybe A10s+ KQs?). Only worse hand he'd call a raise with is AK.


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Probably c/c flop regardless, but more reason to c/r if there is a 2-flush on the flop, which would make it a fairly wet board. Also, you have almost the effective nuts, as he probably isn't playing 33 in ep and KK/QQ are strongly blocked. There is only one combination of KK and QQ each possible, but 6 combinations each of AA, JJ, etc.

If we x/c 4K, what's the plan for the turn?

In the actual hand I checked, he bet 4K, I raised to 13.5K, and he then made it 30K. Now what?

Then you shove.

It would've never come to this had you just x/c flop though. Before you c/r the flop did you not ask yourself what you were going to do if villain re raised? Sounds like you played the hand without a plan or much thought for this scenario.

This is not a good outcome. You really cannot fold now but does V do this with AK/AQ? He isn't folding to your shove and you are now WA/WB and priced in to play for it all.

Terrible outcome with top 2 here indeed.

^^^ OP gave a description of V that indicates he isn't a drooler or an agro-tard. What does he induce with on this flop? I think his range is incredibly small - say QQ+ and maybe AK/AQ. Obviously he could have the same hand. It all comes down to hero's assessment of how V plays AK and esp. AQ here.

OP apparently doesn't remember if it was a 2-flush or rainbow flop. If it was a 2-flush flop, OP's line may be OK, since it is so unlikely he has a better hand, as you block QQ/KK. On a wet flop, your c/r represents a draw. You do want to try to play for stacks with close to the nuts?

KQ3r

I shipped and he called, and we were way behind his pocket 3's. Now that I'm thinking it through, if he's competent (many players in this event are not) how could he have anything but a set here?! I thought maybe he could have AA, but prob not AK, KK or QQ due to my having blockers, but given his line on the flop he's either a donk (like my former self, and maybe my current self if this hand is any indication) with AA, or has a set.

What is our plan for the turn if we x/c flop, an 8 comes, we check and he bets 8200 into the 17200 pot? I assume you'll all say flat. In this hypothetical scenario using the same cards that actually came in my hand, the pot will then be 33600, the river is another 8 pairing the board, we'd obv check, then he bets 14600. River decision?

On KQ3r I'm more inclined to x/c and x/r if flop has a FD (for once I agree w/ betgo) as played fold flop he never has worse, 1. He has a range advantage (even tho I'm gonna flat QQ+ in this scenario some % of time, depends on what reads I have) and 2. by x/c we protect our range and let him continue with a wider range/bet with worse hands (since people tend to overcbet this flops )


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It makes sense he had 33. It is almost impossible he could have KK/QQ, and he may not be 3-betting anything worse for value. There is 1 combination each of KK and QQ, 3 of 33, 4 of KQ, 6 of AA and 12 of AK he can have. There are so few combinations that beat you, and he may fold 33 preflop.

While calling down loses less if you are beat, I am not sure if c/c or c/r is better versus his range if the flop is suited rather than rainbow.

By c/r you may get more in against AA/AK and draws. You also may get him to play back at you sometimes thinking why are you raising that flop. You sometimes get him to fold hands that will draw out on you.

Trying to figure out what hands I really want to c/r here. I guess if we have 33 and KQ exactly we can have those in a c/r range along with some JTs with backdoor flush draws. I assume we never have QQ or KK here since we didn't 3-bet so literally KQ is the nuts for our range. But I agree that c/c allows us to protect our range and potentially get our opponent to fire multiple barrels with worse.

As played I agree our opponent has AA and KQ enough on its own that we probably just have to go call it off on the flop, knowing that we're going to see a set a fair percentage of the time.

That KQ/33 are the only hands we would consider c/ring with for value could be a reason to c/r. There might be some advantage to making an unexpected play. If the flop is suited and we have a button clicking image and villain is a good player, then c/r is clearly best. Villain may bluff or call down light thinking you are bluffing or semibluffing. I agree c/c is probably best, but it is worth considering c/ring in this situation.