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Old 08-14-2012, 12:10 AM   #1
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Two WPT Parx Hands

Hand 1:

Villain in the hand is a young kid who looks familiar and is playing like an absolute wizard. Opening a ton, flatting opens pretty loose especially from the blinds, peeling most 3bets, playing pretty stubbornly postflop. He hasn't had much resistance and has built a big stack from having it in all the big pots and spewing in the small ones.

Youngish kid opens to 600 at 150/300/25 from utg1 when he usually opens to 750-800, villain casually slings in chips for a call from the hj. I have AQo otb and think squeezing is perfectly fine here but I call.

Q32
utg1 bets 1150, villain quickly makes it 3350, I?
I have about 24-26k, both villains cover by a good bit. I'll post the rest of the hand but I'm interested in opinions on all streets, especially a general flop plan. My image thus far is fairly good but I did c/r a river to 7k and snap fold to a shove for 3k more earlier. Also played some value hands a little tricky but have been my usual tag self otherwise.
I raise to 6750, villain calls very quickly.
Turn K check check
River 7 villain checks very quickly I check behind



Hand 2:

Utg opens to 900 at 200/400/50. He's a young kid who is playing pretty loose but fairly passive. He raises a lot of hands and defends wide, but hasn't 4bet at all despite getting 3bet a lot. Just seems to be opening too many hands but not doing anything too crazy.

I'm utg+1 with 64 and 3bet to 2450. Dave "Coldstone" Inselberg is utg+2 and calls pretty quickly. He's a 40 something east coast live pro who is decent but has standard east coast live pro leaks. I'd say his range here is extremely weighted towards QQ and KK. I think he folds JJ and AK pre and I'm not sure if he would flat aces or not but he'd probably think a bit longer if did.

Utg calls as well and the flop comes 663

I have about 38k and both villains cover. Utg checks. What's the best way to get a ton of money in vs Coldstone here? I think if I bet/bet/shove he's going to get away from queens on some street. I considered betting a standard amount, check/raising, or bombing the flop (like 10-12k) because I think he folds the flop never and it could be the quickest way to get a bunch of money in.

I decide to check. He bets 3500, utg folds and I raise to 10k. He calls pretty quickly.

Turn is A and I have about 28k and there's 28k in the pot. Wug?
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Old 08-14-2012, 12:47 AM   #2
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I like how u played hand 1. Hand 2 i enjoyed ur description of david but i think hes capable of flatting pre w/ tt-jj-ak here also, not so much kk or aa imo, as played i think he has jj-qq a lot so its a bad turn although ur not repping an ace here either so he might think qq is good. I like checking, potentially ck/jamming if he bets and getting value on rivers since ur not expected to have an ace or 6 here often
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Old 08-14-2012, 01:40 AM   #3
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Re: Two WPT Parx Hands

Too late to edit but I do not have a spade in hand 1
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Old 08-14-2012, 04:13 AM   #4
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Re: Two WPT Parx Hands

Hand 1 seems fine (pre can go either way obv), although I think flatting the flop is viable too since w/o the As we can get jammed on by NFD and be in a pretty ****ty spot and I don't think we get exploited too much on later streets because you'd look pretty damn strong by flatting. Rest of the hand looks good.

Hand 2 I think you're wrong about Dave folding JJ or AK pre, but it's pretty irrelevant once we get to the turn since he doesn't have AK anymore by then. Flop C/R seems best because like you said I don't think he folds an overpair yet. Also think he'd 4b AA pre, so he I think has exactly JJ-KK by the turn, so we should probably check turn and bomb river hoping for a hero. Following through on the turn will look too strong and probably get him to fold everything, although we could do some gay bet like 6-8k which he may stubbornly call and then be more tempted to call off otr given pot size.
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Old 08-14-2012, 05:06 AM   #5
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Re: Two WPT Parx Hands

hand 2, if your villain isnt folding the flop for a 10k bet, i'd be shocked if betting 10k on the flop wasn't the most profitable line.

if you check i like check calling twice and giving him rope where he thinks his range is a clear valuebet. or check call, check shove if the stacksizes merit it. i think checkraising flop is a little weird because you're running out of bluff combos on most of the turns so his range will get scared. and the parts of your range that could conceivably bluff, seems like would be better suited to just firing 3 barrels.
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Old 08-14-2012, 10:21 AM   #6
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Re: Two WPT Parx Hands

Hand 2: I think the best way to get the stack is going bet / bet / check

Hand 1: ugggggh. I want to do something stupid but can't decide what. Hate all decisions. Tempted to cold-call flop, and bluff stack across 2 streets if a spade hits turn assuming he checks. We lose that option by reraising flop, but who knows how good an option it is to have.
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Re: Two WPT Parx Hands

How would an over-bet in H2 be percieved? Can you rep a range weighted towards 88-TT or is that inconsistend with your pf 3 bet?
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Re: Two WPT Parx Hands

Why did you 3bet 64s utg+ 1?
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Why did you 3bet 64s utg+ 1?
you're not durrrr
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Why did you 3bet 64s utg+ 1?
To show a 4 when the guy folded, hopefully.

I'd 3bet pre in 1 and fold flop. 2 just go bet/bet/bet in reasonable amounts.
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Why did you 3bet 64s utg+ 1?
How else is he supposed to get max value from overpairs when he flops the nuts?
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:01 PM   #12
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Re: Two WPT Parx Hands

i like the way you played hand 1.

hand 2 is cool as played but i would almost always fold pre
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Why did you 3bet 64s utg+ 1?
I agree, should keep the pot small here and maximize when you steel trap the initial 3 card board
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Old 08-15-2012, 09:37 PM   #14
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Why did you 3bet 64s utg+ 1?
Mostly what Todd said but idk man, does this really need to be asked? I decided to 3bet and this is the situation I'm in now. Seemed like a reasonable spot given how wide he was opening and how little he was playing back.
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Re: Two WPT Parx Hands

Hand 1 fine, Hand 2 bet/bet/bet is ideal but your saying his range can be JJ-AA?
than whats wrong with an over shove? Thoughts?
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