My friend and I were debating this hand. Assuming all are unknown, fold, gayraise, or shove?

Note: This is final table, 7 make the money.

Poker Stars $55+$5 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t600/t1200 Blinds + t75 - 8 players - View hand 25134
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MP1: t16240 M = 6.77
MP2: t8436 M = 3.52
CO: t1380 M = 0.57
BTN: t2532 M = 1.05
SB: t19946 M = 8.31
BB: t3815 M = 1.59
UTG: t3561 M = 1.48
Hero (UTG+1): t11590 M = 4.83

Pre Flop: (t2400) Hero is UTG+1 with 8 8
1 fold, Hero ??

i think im putting it in here given stacksizes.

Yeah this is a pretty standard ship even if the stack sizes were bigger, but with everyone pretty much short stacked (including the BB) it's an auto-ship.

Isn't it massively -EV to bubble here, especially given I have FE once the blinds pass me?

It might also be important to note that chip leader in the hand I posted above has no concept of how -EV this play here was for him on the bubble:


Poker Stars $55+$5 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t600/t1200 Blinds + t75 - 8 players - View hand 25347
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MP2: t16315 M = 6.80
CO: t8511 M = 3.55
BTN: t1455 M = 0.61
SB: t12280 M = 5.12
BB: t9748 M = 4.06
UTG: t3890 M = 1.62
UTG+1: t3636 M = 1.51
Hero (MP1): t11665 M = 4.86

Pre Flop: (t2400) Hero is MP1 with 2 9
6 folds, SB raises to t12205 all in, BB calls t8473 all in

Flop: (t19946) 2 8 6 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t19946) 6 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t19946) K (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t19946
SB shows A 5 (a pair of Sixes)
BB shows K Q (two pair, Kings and Sixes)
BB wins t19946

you have a better idea of the shover's likely range i guess but it seems like KQ isn't necessarily a -EV call 7 handed with extremely short stacks BvB....Is SB really not shoving several weak(esp. suited) kings and other unpaired big(esp suited) cards like QJs and maybe quite a bit lighter? obv he flips a fair amt too/trails marginally which isn't so bad compared to getting blown off his blind that is representing a large percentage of his and everyone's stack.

and i dont think it really impacts the decision to shove 88

This is a super standard ship

The idea is that it becomes -EV for both him and the other blind given a person is about to bubble.