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Old 02-05-2012, 07:43 AM   #1
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Turbo FT bubble spot

Not sure if this is the 44 or the 75 T, anyway, spot applies the same since there are no sicko grinders/regs on my table.

I have a tag-ish img (well as tAG as you can in a turbo) and picked my spots pretty well and kinda ran over the table from 18 down.

10 left, sb is a random decent euro, has played solid and on the tight side. BB is euro as well but a lot more aggro from 3 tables down, had played pretty snug but became rampantly aggro lately.

WUG line, r/f both r/c BB only, open shove(doubt that a lot) ?

can't find HH so bear with me :

Stacks on other table are similar to ours, no big CLs and no super short stacks on either table

UTG: 100k
MP: 90k
HERO : 180k
SB: 220k
BB: 110k

blinds 5/10k (fwiw I'm sure blinds were smaller but it doesn't really matter)

HERO is OTB with A8

10th paid like $500, 9th like 750 and so on , 1st was $5.5k ish ?
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Old 02-05-2012, 09:19 AM   #2
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Re: Turbo FT bubble spot

minraise/c BB imo as openshuving is way worse 18 BB effective here.
not sure if we can r/f this with a blocker.
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Old 02-05-2012, 09:56 AM   #3
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Re: Turbo FT bubble spot

My plan was to r/c BB only, just double checking. Openshoving is for lols options !
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Old 02-05-2012, 12:18 PM   #4
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Openshoving is for lols options !
Really

I'd shove here.
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Old 02-05-2012, 12:24 PM   #5
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Angry Re: Turbo FT bubble spot

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Old 02-05-2012, 09:54 PM   #6
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I'd shove here.
I dont think open shoving is profitable ICM wise

Im pretty sure there is a thread burried here I need to reread to answer my question though...
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:23 AM   #7
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I think i would shove.
The sb could bbe folding hands like kj and we dont want to get repopped from hands like this on the ft bubble.
So push seems for me better than r/c and r/f is no option i think
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:30 AM   #8
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Re: Turbo FT bubble spot

I think it depends a lot on your read on the SB. If he's rly tight(and weak is good too) and is not going to mess with u then I would raise and call BB + fold to SB.

But there's a risk that u are going to get exploited by the sb so if u think hes capable of using his bigger stack and shoving there semi-light I would just shove.

And shoving has to be +EV ICM wise, right?

I think it would be intresting to know how light SB have to shove so that r-c becomes more profitable than shoving ICM-wise.
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:46 AM   #9
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Re: Turbo FT bubble spot

what is problem with open shoving?
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Old 02-06-2012, 11:01 AM   #10
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Re: Turbo FT bubble spot

openshoving is def +cev and +$ev but r/calling BB and r/folding SB is clearly superior
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Old 02-06-2012, 01:08 PM   #11
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Re: Turbo FT bubble spot

if SB is tight r/f to sb and r/c bb should be best here imo.. but i def think jamming is ok too
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Old 02-06-2012, 02:02 PM   #12
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Re: Turbo FT bubble spot

Open jam is the default play, I would only raise/fold to SB if the SB was a confirmed rock. Even against most tighter players open jam is probably better because we can get them to fold AT and 66, so he'd have to be epicly nitty for R/F to be optimal.
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Old 02-06-2012, 02:14 PM   #13
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Re: Turbo FT bubble spot

if a reg jams btn in this spot most regs will call 44/A5s imo
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Old 02-06-2012, 02:23 PM   #14
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Re: Turbo FT bubble spot

either way seems fine, it's probably pretty close in terms of expectation
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Old 02-06-2012, 02:36 PM   #15
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if a reg jams btn in this spot most regs will call 44/A5s imo
Lol no
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