Hand takes place at FT of nightly $215

3rd hand at FT, very limited sample on Villain, and Im not really sure on the consistency of this open-sizing. 1st hand we called an MP 9BB shove, w TT from BB and lost the race. Just pitch this Pre to this sizing, or something else?


Merge - $0+$0|<> NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 51,509 (VPIP: 22.11, PFR: 11.96, 3Bet Preflop: 4.65, Hands: 95)
Hero (BTN): 67,673
SB: 109,078 (VPIP: 22.77, PFR: 15.09, 3Bet Preflop: 6.50, Hands: 621)
BB: 163,623 (VPIP: 20.87, PFR: 14.21, 3Bet Preflop: 7.17, Hands: 776)
UTG: 198,935 (VPIP: 26.18, PFR: 20.16, 3Bet Preflop: 10.54, Hands: 773)
UTG+1: 47,130 (VPIP: 27.14, PFR: 14.77, 3Bet Preflop: 7.64, Hands: 730)
MP: 22,093 (VPIP: 25.91, PFR: 13.89, 3Bet Preflop: 8.39, Hands: 884)
MP+1: 93,735 (VPIP: 20.29, PFR: 19.40, 3Bet Preflop: 13.33, Hands: 73)
MP+2: 123,724 (VPIP: 30.88, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 68)

9 players post ante of 250, SB posts SB 1,250, BB posts BB 2,500

Pre Flop: (pot: 6,000) Hero has K Q

fold, fold, fold, fold, MP+2 raises to 7,500, fold, Hero

Thx in advance

I would fold until proven otherwise.

You don't have enough to 3B-fold, and you don't know enough about his range/sizing to consider calling (often by bad players that size means either JJ or AK), so I think you have to just fold.

Think calling and just slam it in are pretty close Don't rly like folding much But could be off idk

I thought this. Obv questioned it after

There are some old school donks on US sites who raise larger with big hands or raise large a tightish range and maybe limp some hands. This was sort of standard play 20 years ago and similar approaches are common and sort of make sense in 1/2 or 2/5 live cash against loose/passive opponents. It would fold to the 3x without other reads.

3x steal is pretty good if folks are folding kq o ducy
Also ppl with a clue are gonna defend super super wide vs 2x (as they should) And makes it hard to play against
I use 2.5-3x a ton in mtts in select spots Esp vs regs w a low fold blind 2 steal. (As shown by this thread, mtters have very inelastic pf ranges and they have no idea wtf to do vs anything but 2.0-2.3x)
Folding kq w this much money out there can't be good you don't have to win pot v often to make putting money in here super +ev
Peeling otb is nice for prty obvious reasons
Shoving is too as you block a whole bunch of his b/c range And you gii w a lot of equity
Folding seems too nitty, but icm may tell u diff.

With some shorties Still in calling is prob best

call and play poker maybe?

Folding is obviously exploitable and nonGTO. However, without other information, it is best, particularly on a US site, with many players who know old style play, and at a final table, where large raises are unusual.