Flatting could be argued but 3b get it in is definitely better, even donks 4b light now. And it's hard get aa or kk.

Not to mention flatting and playing oop with queens isn't a fantastic situation, even if it feels less scary than busting the million with 75 left

Hard to tell it is a random. Someone could be playing other sites or live. Also, you can't be sure someone doesn't have multiple accounts or is being helped by a reg deep ITM.

hero 5bets it

145550/c dont be scared

stop spewing your nonsense all over the place

Well I play trnys full time, and I play exclusively on Stars. When I dont recognise someone, I generally assume they are not a reg.

Villain was from Poland, with an avatar of Denzel Washington, lol. IF that helps you to make a decision...oh and I'm pretty sure he was 1tabling

During the hand I tried to OPR him but he's not opted in, though I could see that he doesnt play a lot of volume and he has only like 3.5 stars on the rating. After the hand i saw on sharkscope that his ABI is $6.

If you're saying 3b/evaluate, what exactly does that mean? Lets say we 3b and he 4b to a size and in timing that we feel is very nutted, are you then folding? If thats the case, I'd rather flat the first time...

Yeh, I prefer flat if you are pretty sure villain is 4-betting a tight range.

ding ding ding

I don't mind a flat given info. If it was Samuel L. Jackson I def be 3b/5betting and if it was one of the Wayan's Brothers I'd just rip it in pre.

Nice run there OP.
Id def start w a 3b for value just cuz we get flatted a ton this deep, random or reg vil.
Yes were obv not happy to get it in 70 bigs deep in a soft tourney vs a random with 0 dynamics but I think were so often getting flatted by worse that we can 3b and "see what happens" as some here said. If we get 4b and the sizing and timing seem supernutted then there's a case for folding and not telling anyone cuz youl prob face a crushing range and your utility w this stack in this tourney is so sick you can sacrifice ev imo. Once again, dont think it is turning your hand into a bluff cuz youre so often gettin flatted by worse.
About flatting it pre I dont think its realy better (if were gonna at least consider folding if raised) just cuz you also dont know villains postflop tendencies. I mean are you gonna let him bluff/vbet worse and just x/c x/c x/c? Are you gonna let him spazz and x/r flops when it might look fos? You dont know what type of player he is so youll have a hard time picking the right line on different textures. I think the most common random weakness there is is calling too much and you start exploiting it pre with a 3b for value and then face the trouble if it comes.

Something like this. And no I'm not folding to 4b at all i think. And yeah flat the first time might be good too, although I think 3b is better anyway because he is probably going to be flatting the 3b with a range we crush often. Way more often than he is gonna 4b

Yeah, if you think the 4b is really strong, then he doesn't do it often, and you can just flat it and play from there.

Really hope for your sake you're joking.

TBH, seems we know exactly s*it about the villain and should probably not conjecture about his possible 4bet tendencies and ranges, as this bet could mean various things for various different opponents.

Let's just keep in mind what we KNOW and not confuse things by thinking a lot about what we think COULD be true. We know we DON'T know the villain, that he just doubled the blinds from late position, that you've got QQ, and that you are both relatively big stacked deep in the Million.

Working with this information, it's seems clear to me a 3bet is the best play, say raising his 60k to 160k. Suffice it to say that QQ ass-rapes his range, and that just calling is -EV for multiple reasons.

Now...the crux of this problem is what to do if, hypothetically, this rando 4bets. Again, I think it's easy to get caught up in what isn't known. With 75 left in the Million, it's just potentially too diverse a field to know with any certainty about anyone we haven't even see play 1 hand before. The information we have, which is MOST important anyway, is the strength of our hand, the stack size of all involved, positions, and Q.

We've got QQ (3rd nut) as starting hand, an M of 38ish, are facing an unknown opponent sitting on M 30, he's 4betting us after doubling the blinds from LP, and we've got about 300k more chips assuming we play for stacks and lose. We also know we're late in the tournament and don't want to bust out, but this information shouldn't cloud our judgement and push us towards make a bad decision out of fear. We need to play to win or get top 3, as this is the point of playing competitive tournament poker.

5bet shove? I don't see, knowing what we know, how we find a fold or get away from our hand.

Poker Stars $200+$15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15000/t30000 Blinds + t3000 - 9 players - View hand 1786690
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

SB: t920712 M = 12.79
Hero (BB): t2794412 M = 38.81
UTG: t696767 M = 9.68
UTG+1: t1015683 M = 14.11
UTG+2: t689746 M = 9.58
MP1: t353160 M = 4.91
MP2: t2190182 M = 30.42
CO: t631472 M = 8.77
BTN: t514671 M = 7.15

Pre Flop: (t72000) Hero is BB with Q Q
4 folds, MP2 raises to t60000, 3 folds, Hero raises to t157740, MP2 raises to t305550, Hero calls t147810

Flop: (t653100) 7 7 A (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks

Turn: (t653100) T (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t145500, Hero calls t145500

River: (t944100) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t315520, Hero folds

Final Pot: t944100
MP2 wins t944100

Thoughts on post? I talked with a couple guys after and basically think that 3b/flat can be ok considering sizing and how little info we have, if we're IP, but being OOP really sucks and means that we're basically gonna get stacked a lot when he has KK+ but probably going to have a hard time getting a ton of value from his worse hands (he will pot-control a lot of preflop bluffs that make top pairs lower than Q), so 3b/flat kind of sucks. I actually think it sucks enough that flatting the first time is preferrable, even tho he flats/folds much more than he 4b.

So basically in hindsight I think flat>>>3b/5b jam>3b/5b/c>>everything else