What bluffs is villain check shoving turn with on AT63r after our two bets, where we can have all kinds of nuts of this board? Same goes to c/call turn, donk shove river, extremely unlikely line to be a bluff

Otherwise we would fold the top of our range. Which is a thing...

I agree flop should be a bet theoretically, exploitatively this guy appears to be over aggro to perceived capped ranges hence why I suggested a flop check.


If we fold this combo, what are you guys calling?

stop with that "exploitative" stuff, really. Most mtt live players are bums, nobody is exploiting your capped range. They just want to get as many chips as possible when they overbet the river, because they have nuts.

I dunno, maybe my 600k hands in zoom cash is not enough, well my friend who climbed limits from z50 to being a winning reg at z500 (and winning couple of coops) played like million of those hands with all kinds of fishes, all he has to say when there is a spot when fish bets big otr and we don't have specific reads is that fish has it. 9 out 10 rec players have it when they bet big otr. Get over it. Fold your one pair.

i just don't see a ton of bluff combos after v coldcalls SB and then check/calls AT3r in a 3way pot

snapjam river with Tx? i don't think so

describing villain as "bluff happy" isn't even accurate given the OP, he has no showdowns other than an odds call with QTs where I assume he was getting better than 3-1

I was on yours and Villain (definitely Grabel) table late on Day 2. You actually knocked me out AJ v AT.

Given the way Kevin plays / played.... his range here is super polarized between air and 2 pair combos... or most likely for me 45.

As played I would sigh fold as this just smacks of 45.

Personally wouldn't find a check on flop or turn versus Kevin given the type of player he is.

at wat stakes?
how much did you lose tho?

Calling Grabel a Fish or a Random is LOL funny. Its close, but he is super super aggro and sticky. In fact, if there is anyone who would exploit a capped range, it may be him deep in this parx tournament.

beaten z25 and z50 comfortably, small winner at z100 atm

Result?

Lol 100% this (well tbf it would be game flow dependent but if you have a history to betting flop then giving up...you prob have to call)(for ppl who care you can read some HHs from the final two tables and KG was bossing ppl around with overbets and was caught bluffing a couple of times with air) also against him I prob bet flop and turn.
I only played against him once and he is super aggro/sticky/ maybe a bit spewy.

Also gets other ppl to play pretty interesting as many live MTTers struggle to adjust. I think the hand I remember was in the first level of antes he opens UTG, UTG+2 calls, Button calls, I defend QJ from BB and flop comes Q95r, I check, KG bets, UTG+2 raises, BTN cold calls, I fold and KG calls, turn is a 9 and UTG+2 and BTN GII with UTG+2 having A9 and BTN (okay obv rec fish player having TT) I think KG claimed to have AK but am I missing something why would a reg looking kid (UTG+2) raise KG betting into four ppl on that flop with two players yet to act? Am I missing something?

This is a great example of a hand where optimal line is totally player type dependent. Theres good theoretical points itt but the thing is if villain is in fact KG none of that matters if you know his style. Hes a splashy reg who yes runs hot with good recent results but also spazzes if he perceives weakness so this is a super easy call. I'll agree that vs many players particularly random recs this is a fold.

Results: So as I kind of alluded to earlier, I made my mind up on the turn that if I'm checking here I need to fully expect this river action and plan on calling. I pretty much snapped on the river without a chip count and was shown 4 5 of clubs.

I must say the deuce looked pretty innocuous in game.

Ya I mean I think KG is bluffing more than others in this spot, but he also has those weird 2p's/54ss/low sets in his range more than what is optimal/good.

I dunno this dude, but I gotta feeling hadn't he hit he wouldn't have overbet shove this.

Maybe you should read every post from anyone who has played against him in this thread. Everyone is saying, "Aggressive, Sticky, Bluffy live pro" to say KG doesnt have overbet shoves in his range as bluffs is pretty LOL especially when we take the line we have taken.

Based on previous hands v sounds like he is very likely to have a-rag in his range and he is telling a consistent story that he has aces up, hoping you don't believe him and he gets paid


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I am not believing because it's freaking live poker. Dudes played couple of hundreds of hands with him, seeing some showdowns when he was bluffing and not seeing ones where his opponents folded to his pressure. Everyone suddenly has a tell that dude is bluffing so frequently that we should bluffcatch him with one pair on a superdry board in a spot where it's very unlikely he is bluffing and has like 16 combos of straights and gazzilion combos of two pairs.

How many hands on this dude players here have combined? Like 2k most? How many showdowns? Please.

might not be a bad spot to check back flop and hope the sb bluffs two streets given how wide he is pre and how aggro he is post.....sb is obv a ****** floating this board OOP with another guy to act against a UTG range that connects so well with a flop like this.....I don't think the call on the river is that bad against a guy like this - this is an obvious fold against 99% of your standard players but this guy seems to be all over the place....if the guy is floating with 5 high on a flop like this and you've seen him overbet bluff in spots you can' fold.

Also, many, many hands he has played that have made it onto the Parx blog.

Based on your post, it seems like you can't really label any live player. Is that right?

pre and flop are awful for villain

54cc kg is the ****ing GOAT gg OP you got grabel'd

If you haven't been busted by a questionable grabel play deep in a parx mtt, you haven't lived life.

Spot seems closer to me than most given that we block a few gutshot combos and that kev is likely super aware of his image in certain spots and able to value bet pretty wide, but not gonna go against wizards who are/aren't aware of the great grabel.