Hand 1:

Villain is Joe Cassidy. My background info on Joe is that he's a high stakes mixed game player, and the little I've seen of him online (nizot skizared) would indicate that he lacks a fold button before the river. Limit mixed games =! NL tournaments, I know, but I think it's a decent enough read to go off of, someone regularly playing 1k/2k limit is probably gonna be a postflop station.

Literally the first hand he has ever played with me. He joins our table, gets dealt into the BB, and I'm in the SB. I'm obviously young, he prob views me as from the internet somehow.

150/300/25, I have 16k Cassidy covers. I have JTo.

Preflop: folds to me, I make it 900, Cassidy calls.

Flop 843r. I bet 1400 into 2250, Cassidy calls.

Turn (843)J bringing a diamond draw. I bet 3900 into ~5100, and Cassidy calls.

River is an offsuit ace, for 843JA. I have a PSB left. This is literally the first hand of poker Cassidy and I have played. I:

- Jam
- Bet 5k
- Check/call anything
- Check/re-eval
- Check/fold

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Hand 2:

Villain is David Singer. This is the first time I've played with him, my knowledge of him before is that he's a red pro that's actually good at poker, has played some of the 25k HU championships and IIRC he won one defeating a bunch of HSNL badasses who commented well on his game.

When I started with him on day 2, he played decently snug to start, probably stats of 20/10, opening a fair amount here and there.

My image was taggy, first level I ran decently well and threebet more than the norm, and had pretty much all the small denominational chips.

Third level of the day though, and for a straight hour Singer just changes gears; now he's raising 60% of the time when folded to and openlimping 10%. He's chipped up fairly well.

So Singer's image is active, then the following hand happens before *HAND 2!*

Isaac Haxton opens in middle position, folds to Singer and he defends. Flop 983cc, Singer donkbets and Ike calls. Turn 6, Singer donks again and Ike calls. River is a 5 for 98365, and Singer bets almost the pot. Ike goes deep into the tank, gets the clock called on him, and finally tosses in a call. Singer says "I have a small pair" and turns over Q3spades. Ike frustratingly mucks AT. So consider that where it's relevant for the gameflow, I guess, because *HAND 2!* happens less than an orbit later.

Onto the actual hand. I have around 48k, Singer covers.

Singer opens to 1400 in EMP at 250/500/50, I reraise JxJc next to act to 4400. Folds around to Singer and he defends. Most times I would call this pre but when Singer is playing street poker I have to 3bet this hand, no choice really.

Flop Q93ccc (I have the Jc) and Singer donkleads 7k into ~10k. I have 44k or so, and call. Up until the turn I think is standard.

Turn is a blank, a 4 I think, for Q93ccc(4o). Singer thinks and bets 18k into 24k. I have 36k total and:

- Shove it into his face
- Durrrr-call
- Fold

Need to edit in your cards in hand 1.

Fixed

Hand 1 is soo fin awkward....his flat on the turn with such shallow remaining stacks is weird, seems like he is hero-calling a weak hand that we beat on the turn, but tough to say. river pairs so many hands that we would have been bluffing with. i guess my first instinct is to check call, tough break if he has A8, A4, or A3.

since A hits our bluffing range, do you think he ever calls a river jam with worse? i really dont think so, which is i want to check call or possibly check fold if i picked up some seriously strong live tell. Have to say i am not 100% on my thougts here....


hand 2 - i am shoving. while i have never played a hand of poker with joe cassidy, i have played a ton of hands deep in live tourneys with David Singer......he bet folds in more spots where it seems like he has to have it (or at least committed himself) than any other player i have ever encountered. he also donk leads air/weak hands a ton. not finding a fold here......would be glad to tell a sick singer story, but might get flamed for a veiled brag, and post already long enough.

Isn't he somewhat less likely to do something retarded when he showed down the Q3s valuebluff not more than 10 minutes earlier, atleast less often enough to make this close?

with other people i would agree, but like I said, Singer is unique in my experience. i will play back a very good/pertinent good story later, dont want to hijack the thread for now.

i do think it is pretty close fwiw, and when we shove into KQ or AQ with a club, it really blows obv. i just cant find a fold here given what i have experienced versus him first hand. the reason he has had so much success HU is he almost never folds, takes weird lines, and bluffs in spots where it seems he can never be bluffing. i think singer is a very good player btw, just not able to find a fold here.

HAND 1 limp pre ck re-eval riv

Hand 2 don't see myself folding

Limp pre and c/f hand 1.

I don't understand your rationale for 3betting in hand 2. But you got what you wanted I guess, a chance to play a huge pot with JJ postflop, so get it in.

hand 1 SHOVE
hand 2 fold

I don't think I have ever not agreed with TT.

Hand one, I have no effing clue.

Hand two I would cram it in his face. He will def show up with worse sometimes and as snew said, I've seen him fold in some spots where he can't really be bluffing ever, so, yeah.

hand 1 - shove for value (behind that would be bet smaller, then check/call, then check/fold)

hand 2 - min raise shove it in, gl as played (behind that is call, then fold)

FOR SURE FOR SUUUUUUUUUURE CALL IN HAND 2 SO WE CAN SNAP CALL THE RIVER JAM, PLEASE!!!

hand 1 is real close, i also couldnt advocate limping pre and checking the flop any harder. given how this was played, leading to a jam, real real real close though

I wanna check/re-eval hand 1, often fold since I think if he's calling down light he'll just check it back with his showdown value instead of bluffing much when you've got him beat.

Hand 2 man I don't know but a hell of a lot of people seem to think you just can't fold to Singer here.

+3 to open-limping the JTo. I'm not sure open-raising is even profitable against a guy like this.