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Live Satellite Bubble UTG with AA Live Satellite Bubble UTG with AA

05-06-2013 , 09:22 PM
9 handed table with 38 players left, 38th place gets $250. Top 37 get a $500 ticket.

2 or 3 stacks behind me cover, blinds 1k/2k/300

Dealt AA UTG with ~22k, there are tons of 3-7 bb stacks left in the satellite. I know KK is a snap fold here, is AA a shove or a fold?

I thought after the fact turning my hand face up and shoving would have possibly been the best play but that seemed really scummy the more I thought about it.
05-06-2013 , 09:52 PM
Just fold everything until someone busts
05-06-2013 , 10:11 PM
The best play wouldve been to stand up before the hand go to the bar, drink some beers get back half an hour later and collect the ticket.
05-06-2013 , 10:13 PM
Turning it face up was my first thought (as long as there is no ruling that a face up hand is dead obviously). You are doing your opponents a favour by allowing them to play perfectly against you, while ensuring you won't bust on the hand.
05-07-2013 , 02:14 AM
Lets look at the best case scenario for your AA.

Best case scenario is that you have AA vs someone's A7 hand.

Poker stove puts ahead 96%

Quote:
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

1,712,304 games 0.000 secs 342,460,800 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win
Hand 0: 93.643% { AcAd }
Hand 1: 06.357% { As7c }
Now lets look at the math of your situation. 38 people remaining, 37 get a seat. If everyone had identical stacks then your odds for getting a seat are 37/38 = 97%

97% > 93% so you fold AA.

Truth is, stacks are not equal so your odds for getting a seat are more like 99%.

For the sake of argument, lets say you are in the BB, everyone folds and the small blind shows you A7o and shoves for 7bb, you should still fold your AA.

There is absolutely, no reason to play and if you do something ******ed like shove UTG some short stack with 22-KK will call you and you will be 80/20 flip and 80% is a lot lower than 99%

just fold. Don't even bother looking at your hand. Just fold 100% of everything.
05-07-2013 , 07:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NiSash1337
The best play wouldve been to stand up before the hand go to the bar, drink some beers get back half an hour later and collect the ticket.
This. Why are you playing the sat?
05-07-2013 , 07:21 AM
Lol I like the turn the hand over and shove play.
05-07-2013 , 09:14 AM
If I was CL and you did the turn over AA shove I'd probably spitecall

Just fold and fold and fold and then collect your ticket. Dont go to the bar, people will collude against you
05-07-2013 , 09:38 AM
I limp and call a raise to a short stack below 7BB
05-07-2013 , 10:56 AM
Fold seems best.

why is this in hi stakes?
05-07-2013 , 04:50 PM
do the jamie gold show
05-07-2013 , 09:21 PM
Why you looked your cards?
05-09-2013 , 04:46 PM
this is closer if say 6 are left and 5 pay because in a live satellite of this buy-in there is GUARANTEED people gonna spite call/suicide etc esp with their short stacks and so on...
shoving prob is like -$5 depending on how bad everyone behind is so it's not a big deal, but yeah just fold

people are so bad in live satellites, lol omggggggggggggggggg the last one i played was hilarious!!!!
09-20-2014 , 04:27 PM
hope he didn't jam
#blastfromthepastFTW
09-21-2014 , 08:04 AM
Nash is you shoving any 2 and them folding everything, but in real life you probably should fold, as sad as it seems.
09-22-2014 , 12:43 AM
Show and then fold
#balance
09-22-2014 , 06:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dgiharris
Lets look at the best case scenario for your AA.

Best case scenario is that you have AA vs someone's A7 hand.

Poker stove puts ahead 96%



Now lets look at the math of your situation. 38 people remaining, 37 get a seat. If everyone had identical stacks then your odds for getting a seat are 37/38 = 97%

97% > 93% so you fold AA.

Truth is, stacks are not equal so your odds for getting a seat are more like 99%.

For the sake of argument, lets say you are in the BB, everyone folds and the small blind shows you A7o and shoves for 7bb, you should still fold your AA.

There is absolutely, no reason to play and if you do something ******ed like shove UTG some short stack with 22-KK will call you and you will be 80/20 flip and 80% is a lot lower than 99%

just fold. Don't even bother looking at your hand. Just fold 100% of everything.
AA vs. A9o is the worst.

      
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