Third level of day 1A of LAPT main event US$1.700 with unlimited reentrys till level 6.
100/200 with 25 ante. Soft table with a couple of oldies doing usual stuff and two very aggro fishes. Only recognize villain which is from my country, never played with him and after two levels he seemed like a competent TAG. He doubled a few hands before after 4 betting big pre and got it OTF on 5s6s9x with AA vs AQss. Hero has been on the looser side but nothing crazy winning small pots without showdown.
On to the hand:
Villain raises UTG to 450 with 42k behind, MP1 +and HJ flat, I flat 44 on SB with 23k and BB comes along.
Flop: 4h6hJx
Villain leads 1025, all flat, I raise to 3.6k, BB folds and villain repops to 7.400, all fold to Hero?

shove

Fold

We beat AA, KK, QQ and AhJh (all of which are in villains range) and only lose to JJ and 66 (and 66 is less likely in villains utg opening range given ops description of villain)....and you want to fold?

Easy shove here.

given the flop action, I doubt we see qq+ that often. if he is competent, he is not 3-betting the flop with those hands into two flatters and one raiser (who raised into four people.)

I think villain opens 66 100% of the time in this spot. I think its far less likely he 3bets flop with AA,KK,QQ. Assuming hes folding these to a shove why would a competent villain turn these hands into a bluff against a very strong range?
Actually I think he flats some % and also folds some of these otf.

Do you realise hero c/r-ed to 3.6k into 5k pot?

yes, the original raiser is getting great odds to peel with draw or with overpair and reevaluate further flop action and turn card

Peel OP 4 way oop?

So you're saying our plan was to c/drop-raise and fold to action? And if someone overplayed OP or draw then it's good for him.... We would have better hands in this spot.

I think in villain's eyes it's most likely looks like we want to iso him from fish and bottom of our perceived value range might be some KJ+.

3-betting this flop with an overpair is turning his hand into a bluff

I think we could continue against the other players in the hand but not the original raiser. Not really that concerned about having better hands in this spot as it's so unique. We could also have a null raising range on this flop or raise to a size like 5800 where we may be slightly less concerned about being exploited.

Also raise/fold plans frequently involve people calling the raise. It's not a tragedy the x% of times we get re-raised and fold.

If he thinks we have weak value range and bluff range, then his play is clearly to call flop rais

yes guess you`re right there`re merits for villain to proceed 4way following hand description.
I disagree with your last statement and still my point is the range for such hero`s c/r doesn`t even look polarized, let alone strong so it certainly increases likelyhood for TAG to overplay some overpair he doesn`t want to proceed 4way.

Thus I don`t really agree with this way of playing bottom set (c/r/f).

and he also could play better sets slower for reasons you stated.

Guessed I messed sizing in the hand. What sizing should be optimal in this spot? Had a chat with a good player about the hand and he suggested to go around 4.8k, not above 5k considering biggest chip denomination in play is a blue 5k and that might physicologically scare the two fish still in play which would continue vs a smaller bet.
Guess I we make it bigger and villain jams we have to just sigh call?

results ?

This spot is pretty weird imo, I am curious how action went in the hand he got in AA vs AQs on 965ssx. If, say, AQs c/red flop and villain 3b piled flop with AA, I would be really pleased to go with 44 here.

I don't think he really does this with hearts bc you give him such a great price to just peel. However, QQ+ gets pretty tricky for him to play in this spot if the people to his left are getting a good price to come along, so it is very feasible he is in the "well i can't fold because overpair, lets just isolate him and get this in" mentality, despite the fact that there's a pretty good argument for just folding an overpair here.

Call. Dont see merits of jamming if he's a competent reg. He might have raised over pairs here to ISO because of our Lol sizing but most likely will hero fold his QQ-AA. Call and x/GII on turn

LAPT peru, ppl are the worst and it's reentry... never fold a set there, if he has 66 or jj, god bless

don't cry, rebuy

size bigger vs. the type of players i assume the villains are on the flop as played probably get it in unless the guy is super vamos in which case you could flat to induce overplays/spazz/etc, never folding though

The only reason i might not jam, is as boobsicles said to ck/get in on turns. Folding is absurd.