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08-23-2016 , 06:49 PM
[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $1,000 Buy-in (1,400/2,800 blinds, 280 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37418981

SB: 109,491 (39.1 bb)
Hero (BB): 87,764 (31.3 bb)
UTG+2: 108,120 (38.6 bb)
MP1: 92,588 (33.1 bb)
MP2: 25,238 (9 bb)
MP3: 191,309 (68.3 bb)
CO: 43,480 (15.5 bb)
BTN: 99,260 (35.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K 5
3 folds, MP3 raises to 6,188, 3 folds, Hero calls 3,388

Flop: (16,016) K J 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks

Turn: (16,016) J (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets 7,000, Hero calls 7,000

River: (30,016) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets 25,400, [color="grey"]Hero ????

easy fold? villain is a known highstakes mtt reg who i assume is fairly balanced between bluffs and jx here? we folding due to c blockers ? sizing make u want to fold or call more? thoughts?
08-23-2016 , 09:12 PM
hard to think of hands that he is bluffing turn/river with that he did not stab the flop with versus percieved capped bb's defense range on a board that smashes his range. I don't think there would be ever enough bluffs to call off with our hand here.
08-26-2016 , 01:14 AM
lol mad1 he can bluff plenty of combos with this line, 87s, 76s primarily

what is his flop cbet %? do you have stats for delayed turn cbet and bet riv after delayed turn cbet?

generally when we have top pair we need to learn towards calling vs. ppl who we expect to play the spot close to correctly. assuming your turn call range is ony ~50% or less of Kx you will need to call a good portion of your Kx otr.
08-26-2016 , 10:25 AM
Ya also many regs will start over bluffing on this card
08-26-2016 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jayme87
easy fold?
villain is a known highstakes mtt reg who i assume is fairly balanced between bluffs and jx here?
doesn`t say much (they`re all different those HS regs)

your river strategy is based on your turn strategy
his river strategy is based on his perception of your turn and river strategy.

Different scenarios would lead to different solutions.

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we folding due to c blockers ?
most potential KcXc combos have us beat

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sizing make u want to fold or call more? thoughts?
Generally larger sizings make me tempted to fold more.

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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson
lol mad1 he can bluff plenty of combos with this line, 87s, 76s primarily
[ ] plenty of combos

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what is his flop cbet %?
this is relevant as well as opening range.
08-27-2016 , 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by user12345
doesn`t say much (they`re all different those HS regs)

your river strategy is based on your turn strategy
his river strategy is based on his perception of your turn and river strategy.

Different scenarios would lead to different solutions.


most potential KcXc combos have us beat


Generally larger sizings make me tempted to fold more.



[ ] plenty of combos


this is relevant as well as opening range.
What does the first part have to do w this hand
Don't think kc blockers are very relevant here at all. 5c has some bad card removal affects blocking some semi bluff turn river bluff hands
Well yea. You should fold more to Bigger sizing
Its a fair bit of bluffing hands enough where op needs to have a bluff catching range
Not sure what last part means
08-27-2016 , 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by lolposting2016
What does the first part have to do w this hand
Don't think kc blockers are very relevant here at all. 5c has some bad card removal affects blocking some semi bluff turn river bluff hands
I imply an answer to the question "is it an easy fold" can`t be explicit.
54cc, 65cc bet flop almost always, A5cc a bit less freq-ly, AKcc can check back flop occasionally as well.
08-27-2016 , 11:55 AM
looks like std V chk back otf with mid pair, then easy barrels turn/river once improved.
yes, this can be bluff line but without pages of history or timing tells or w/e, why would you take a mere punt that he's bluffing?
08-27-2016 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by user12345
I imply an answer to the question "is it an easy fold" can`t be explicit.
54cc, 65cc bet flop almost always, A5cc a bit less freq-ly, AKcc can check back flop occasionally as well.
It's a fine strategy to xb these hands otf
08-28-2016 , 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by user12345
I imply an answer to the question "is it an easy fold" can`t be explicit.
54cc, 65cc bet flop almost always, A5cc a bit less freq-ly, AKcc can check back flop occasionally as well.
We hold the Kc

We block a lot of stuffs, that he can potentially stab turn with, no need to level ourselfs that hard, so yeah, iŽll fold. (this is always a FH or Jx, maybeeee AA could took this line some % of time)
09-01-2016 , 11:16 PM
Sizing shouldn't make a difference here because he's betting the same amount with his bluffs too which is good by him. If you don't know his cb, delay cb%, mp+3 range then I guess you just have to make your best guess on what you know about him.
09-08-2016 , 06:39 AM
Sorry ain't responded to this thread. My new dB didn't have many hands on villain but it was hitthehole who I respect as a mtt guy and expect him to have a fair few bluffs here aswell. I don't like saying villains so sorry hitthehole if you are reading

      
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