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John K 12-22-2011 09:11 AM

Joe Tehan-Stealthmunk HU4Rollz match
 
TBJ suggested somebody start a hu4rollz match in a new thread so I figure I'd do it.

I just want to point out why Joe is taking TBJ's HU4Rollz offer (even though if we were to take this literally, it should probably be titled TBJ's stake vs. a small fraction of JT's roll) even though JT and I think the whole HU4Rollz concept is childish. But if this is the only way JT can possibly shut up TBJ, then he has to go down this path.

TBJ has gone on endlessly about Joe being bad in poker and because he's so bad, he's essentially scamming people in the marketplace. Those that know Joe, including myself, know Joe has no malicious bone in his body and would never scam anybody. Whether Joe is bad in poker is irrelevant to whether Joe scammed people, but according to TBJ there is a connection.

I have already asked TBJ to criticize all he wants about JT's mtt plays and hands, and mu's, but do not accuse him of scamming, since there is absolutely no evidence that JT did so (and just about everybody in the other thread have pointed it out as well, yet TBJ turns a deaf ear to them).

Well since TBJ refuses to stop calling JT a scammer, JT and I felt like other measures needed to be taken, and since JT has the utmost confidence in himself (whether he plays good or not is irrelevant), he agreed to take up TBJ's numerous offers of playing him in any game, any stake since according to TBJ, JT is a huge donkey.

As worded by TBJ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bear Jew (Post 30437560)
CAN I PLAY 6M CASH WITH TEHAN/ROUSSO/JAKAJAKAJAJAKAJAKA (LOLHE'SACTUALLYMUCHBETTERDONTWNANACINLDUE HIM) FOR ETERNITY?????

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Originally Posted by The Bear Jew (Post 30471842)
I'm a lot better player than you, so is PGHFan. I've played with you live, and thought you played terribly then, too. Just overaggressive spewtard.

I'm sure if you want to crossbook people in tournaments you'd have people lining up after your performance just now. And I'm sure if you just want to keep playing tournaments, everyone lucky enough to have you at the table will be happy.

The fact you come across as arrogant on the forums while still charging markup and being so clearly an idiot/clueless/gambling degen while playing disgusts me. HU4ROLLZ? I'll play you hu any stakes NL/PLO.
And I'm sure if you wanted to crossbook live tourneys people would be lining up to bet on me, or even PGHfan after this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bear Jew (Post 30491976)
You aren't that "way off" but just like Joe is able to sell himself I should be able to sell against Joe. I should be able to sell stocks of Joe at 1.3 if I wanted to and whatnot. But I can't. Joe should buy himself at 1-1 if he's selling at 1.3 or some people should...etc.....but its just a joke market and he's a joke player.

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Originally Posted by The Bear Jew (Post 30504409)
I'm sure I'd love to play him in a live cash game hu or if we get into similar live cash games I'd crossbook him in those same games. I mean its absurd to argue differently. The guy is a joke. There is nobody that somebody that lacks such basic mathematical understanding of the game could ever be a big winner in tournament poker in the tough fields these days, so its ridiculous that he sells at 1.2 markup here.

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Originally Posted by The Bear Jew (Post 30515008)
oh wow.....so am I getting right is this idiot accepting hu4rollz for JT? I'm too tired right now just woke up maybe I'll check later but prob not aoctually busy today.....but yes....if my ripping has scored me a hu match vs an idiot like Joe Tehan then ship it! I'll take the free EV.

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Originally Posted by The Bear Jew (Post 30516588)
The guy said field was "stacked" and backed it up by one hand he coolered one other good playervin. He's a clown. Just like the person he's defending.

Hu4rollz time!

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Originally Posted by The Bear Jew (Post 30518026)
Lets just hope hu4rollz happens now! Doubt it think tehan is smarter than that lol (weird backhanded compliment ) don't think he's delusional enough to battle me. While his friend might be confident!

So yeah, JT is agreeing to play TBJ in a hu nl match. Since TBJ has been calling out JT and saying how he's so much better than JT in poker no matter the game/stakes, it's obvious JT should be able to choose the game/stakes/parameters...after all, TBJ has said this more than once.

We proposed something reasonable that we think TBJ can afford to play (we're not sure though)... $25/$50 nl hu $25k freezeout.

After this proposal TBJ posts (lol) reasons why he refuses to play JT under these parameters. I don't see how these parameters are far fetched at all, especially for a guy that kept asking to play JT hu in any games/stakes.

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Originally Posted by The Bear Jew (Post 30521331)
I never said any game I just said nl or PLO....I never implied any time or Nywhere but I'd be happy for his action wherever I was...and I never mentioned how deep we'd be but the buyin is usually 50 or 100 bb deep standard....500bb deep is a bit absurd and long variance joke.

What is it w these idiots and choosing 500 bb deep poker as their form? Cornell Fiji joe tehan lol...

Lol at 50 bbs hu nl live being standard. Even 100bbs is shallow for live nl. There is nothing absurd about playing 500bbs deep hu live nl. It is totally within reason and actually will determine who is the more skillful player than players w/ 100 bb stacks. So stop making excuses and play.

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Originally Posted by klink10k (Post 30524212)
BTW, this HU thing is really dumb, i don't understand the point. HUNL skill has very little translation to MTT skill and neither of you are very good at HU anyways.

We know this Klink, but the point of the match is to shut up TBJ's constant rants about scamming. Maybe when TBJ gets owned (but idk, maybe TBJ really is the much better player and easily bust JT) he'll realize he was wrong for putting down JT's abilities so much and stop calling him a scammer. Or maybe TBJ is right and he'll show how much of a donkey JT is.

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Originally Posted by The Bear Jew (Post 30525371)
I'm down for lapc right before or right after main event if tehan is in and we can agree to some terms that aren't absurd like. 500 bb deep 25k only way we do it. Let's make this happen. Obviously it has nothing to do with mtt skills but I'd wager w 100 bbs anyone that sounds and plays as bad as joe short won't have an edge on me :)

If he's not interested in 100 bb freezes or 125-225 bb cash games buyin I'm fine. And will play.... Or if he wants to gamble 25 k we can raise stakes. Let's make a playdate.

Again, based on your earlier posts, you wanted to play JT in any format of poker, and JT's set the parameters, so stop your bitching and accept, or you become the idiot you talk about here....

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Originally Posted by The Bear Jew (Post 30515008)
I have to warn you and people thinking it might happen, the last time something like this happened, the accused idiot turned out to A) be an idiot B) raise stakes and try to organize a 750k hu4rollz C) ended up being a thief/scam artist.

Just sayin'!

Don't be this guy. You called out JT, you asked him to play you in any games/stakes. He and I came back w/ a reasonable proposal. Take his offer or stfu.

As for time/place, why not take Matt Savage's offer during the LAPC, streamed online for everybody to watch. You already said you'll be there, and Joe will be there as well.

John K 12-22-2011 09:21 AM

Re: Joe Tehan-Stealthmunk HU4Rollz match
 
Also fwiw Joe nor I even have a clue on who TBJ is since Joe is never on 2+2 and I only focus on cash games. For all we know he could be an excellent poker player and will handily beat Joe in this hu match.

Also I realize TBJ is a well respected poster here so Joe and I are in the minority on Joe's side, and according to some posters TBJ should be a favorite, but it's a challenge Joe is willing to take to shoot down TBJ's serious and totally uncalled for accusations of Joe being a scammer.

fivetypes 12-22-2011 10:11 AM

Re: Joe Tehan-Stealthmunk HU4Rollz match
 
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets...11/ohitson.jpg

timetowom 12-22-2011 10:28 AM

Re: Joe Tehan-Stealthmunk HU4Rollz match
 
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camz2895 12-22-2011 10:51 AM

Re: Joe Tehan-Stealthmunk HU4Rollz match
 
i remember 3rd grade

The Bear Jew 12-22-2011 10:51 AM

Re: Joe Tehan-Stealthmunk HU4Rollz match
 
Since I'm calling him out he gets to choose games/stakes/parameters.

Seems logical. I challenge you to a. Live hunl. Cash game !

Lapc good time. If they think a 500bb min buyin is proper then lol.

Or we can play online in home games battleship style live.....

If you think I'll just blindly concede to every absurd demand you don't know me. I wont be hustled :) I get a say too.

We can work to make this happen though!

rumnchess 12-22-2011 12:43 PM

Re: Joe Tehan-Stealthmunk HU4Rollz match
 
Compromise gents. 250bbs or even better, a best-of 5 series of Heads up SNG match. $25k (or more) total buy-in with starting stacks of 50, 100, 200, 300, and 500 bbs

AK87 12-22-2011 12:45 PM

Re: Joe Tehan-Stealthmunk HU4Rollz match
 
Just 4 table hu until someone quits

camz2895 12-22-2011 12:46 PM

Re: Joe Tehan-Stealthmunk HU4Rollz match
 
it's pretty laughable that you would offer HU4rollz then say 50bb i mean

comeonman.jpg


500bb is a bit extreme.

I see nothing wrong with meeiting in th emiddle somewhere. 2-300bb is pretty standard for live NL so i don't see why you wouldn't do that. If he's so bad wouldn't you want to play deeper? Or what about 5 25/50 5k or 3 25/50 10k freezeouts?

The Bear Jew 12-22-2011 12:47 PM

Re: Joe Tehan-Stealthmunk HU4Rollz match
 
Down for either obv...or w/e just not gonna let him get his way on principle Ivey is the best in the world and always fights for best odds.
#dontknockthehustle
#donthatetheplayerhatethegame

The Bear Jew 12-22-2011 12:48 PM

Re: Joe Tehan-Stealthmunk HU4Rollz match
 
Having one match and thinking it proves anything other than variance war regardless stack size is ******ed.

i think ill pass 12-22-2011 12:52 PM

Re: Joe Tehan-Stealthmunk HU4Rollz match
 
500bb hu live poker has to be stupidest thing ini the world and boring as ****, 50bb much more fun

The Bear Jew 12-22-2011 12:53 PM

Re: Joe Tehan-Stealthmunk HU4Rollz match
 
But stealthmunk! Your hustling Joe isn't that just like marketplace and selling at high markup?

#thisaintthemarketplacethisisthestreets
#cluelessidiots

Bring it on bitches.

The Bear Jew 12-22-2011 12:54 PM

Re: Joe Tehan-Stealthmunk HU4Rollz match
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by i think ill pass (Post 30531105)
500bb hu live poker has to be stupidest thing ini the world and boring as ****, 50bb much more fun

This.

200 is reasonable but w/e the fans want to see some allins.

200 still very boring. Can be nitty depending how loose Joe is.

m_x_b 12-22-2011 01:15 PM

Re: Joe Tehan-Stealthmunk HU4Rollz match
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmlNr...eature=related

jon_midas 12-22-2011 02:33 PM

Re: Joe Tehan-Stealthmunk HU4Rollz match
 
woooooooooooooo!!!!!

In b4 munk:

-owns JT for 25k
-parlays said 25k into high roller at LAPC or something
-binks big and goes on a huge heater
-is the next Jason Mercier and gets huge sponsorhip
-surpasses Phil Ivey and is proclaimed the GOAT

or

-loses to JT
-goes on a drug induced suicidal rampage
-ends up penniless and has to sell his laptop charger for crack
-dies a 2+2 martyr

but hey, those are the swings of NLHE! HU4ROLLZZZZZ!!!!!!!

..... at least this has a better chance of hapenning than Cornell Fiji for 750k!

parkert 12-22-2011 02:55 PM

Re: Joe Tehan-Stealthmunk HU4Rollz match
 
pretty lame HU4rollz when one person is already broke. still be funny to see tho

aseHigh 12-22-2011 03:11 PM

Re: Joe Tehan-Stealthmunk HU4Rollz match
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bear Jew (Post 30531106)
But stealthmunk! Your hustling Joe isn't that just like marketplace and selling at high markup?

#thisaintthemarketplacethisisthestreets
#cluelessidiots

Bring it on bitches.

#thisisnotTwitter

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Originally Posted by parkert (Post 30532722)
pretty lame HU4rollz when one person is already broke. still be funny to see tho

this

jon_midas 12-22-2011 03:15 PM

Re: Joe Tehan-Stealthmunk HU4Rollz match
 
I think you guys are missing the true spirit of HU4ROLLZ... it's not about the money, it's about the glory baby!!

#cantwait

fivetypes 12-22-2011 03:21 PM

Re: Joe Tehan-Stealthmunk HU4Rollz match
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jon_midas (Post 30533070)
I think you guys are missing the true spirit of HU4ROLLZ... it's not about the money, it's about the glory baby!!

#cantwait

This. Online superstar v livepro - THE ELIMINATOR. Live stream one time?

The Bear Jew 12-22-2011 03:21 PM

Re: Joe Tehan-Stealthmunk HU4Rollz match
 
#mashtags
#wheneveriwant
#howeveriwant
#cantwait

TheChamp11 12-22-2011 03:22 PM

Re: Joe Tehan-Stealthmunk HU4Rollz match
 
really wish I had money to stake Munk with

The Bear Jew 12-22-2011 03:23 PM

Re: Joe Tehan-Stealthmunk HU4Rollz match
 
You guys forget I'm 261st best live pro joe tehan is like 130

As smokey1 taught me

I'm a poker player , not online or live pro just a poker player. :)

AK87 12-22-2011 03:24 PM

Re: Joe Tehan-Stealthmunk HU4Rollz match
 
Munk check ur PMs. This has to be done online or else its ******ed. Live hu is the worst possible form of poker.

The Bear Jew 12-22-2011 03:26 PM

Re: Joe Tehan-Stealthmunk HU4Rollz match
 
For the record I'm basically undefeated in hi grudge matches

Taught malicous222 a lesson online
Taught Dario a lesson at the pca in front of a crowd while drinking heavily
Guess you can count the Cornell Fiji match a forfeit.

3-0 my count soon to be 4-0 most likely


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