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Old 12-17-2011, 01:23 AM   #16
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Re: Joe Tehan Bubble Hand - EPIC 20K

Rousso looks like a drooler here. Sweet re-raise/ decide on a 17 BB shove you moron.
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Old 12-17-2011, 01:26 AM   #17
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Rousso looks like a drooler here. Sweet re-raise/ decide on a 17 BB shove you moron.
just because she didn't snap call doesn't make it really a decide. It was a big decision, so maybe she said some stuff to try to get a read. Agree she looks a little donkish in this hand, but others played it worse.
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Old 12-17-2011, 01:27 AM   #18
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Yea yea she was just talking about the hand for the camera time (or the blog time if there weren't any cameras). LOL at not calling 100% of your range here. She sucks and is only a Stars pro because she isn't terrible to look at.
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Old 12-17-2011, 01:35 AM   #19
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Yea yea she was just talking about the hand for the camera time (or the blog time if there weren't any cameras). LOL at not calling 100% of your range here. She sucks and is only a Stars pro because she isn't terrible to look at.
She has top finishes in high rollers and 3rd or something in the WCOOP championship. Also, not sure I agree about her looks.

lol at how we have to always make a certain play with 100% of our range. Not sure why we have to flat all of our range for 23% of our stack and can't sometimes shove.

Also, the minireraise may not be that bad if it induces a shove from a dominated hand.
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Old 12-17-2011, 02:37 AM   #20
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roussos plan is just mind bottling here, if her thought was hey Tehans got a lot of chips and maybe hes absurd enough to go after the money in the pot with a wide range, then it obviously cages based on results, but she said her reasoning was "i only minreraised so that i could potentially get away from a cooler situation if i thought I was beat" LOL. Clownshoes all of em, Tehan with the largest shoes, rousso in the middle but really vying for that top spot with her reasoning, and faraz's shoes were still large and bright red cause he actually has a good image to minraise utg with 17bbs

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Old 12-17-2011, 03:02 AM   #21
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Re: Joe Tehan Bubble Hand - EPIC 20K

18bbs is quite a nice amount of units in a flagship event, pretty disrespectful to the game to openjam
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she said her reasoning was "i only minreraised so that i could potentially get away from a cooler situation if i thought I was beat" LOL.
this is a somewhat legitimate plan so im not really laughing at her. if she really really thinks shes beat she can fold and especially people like her get extra info all the time.. so thats overall a legitimate plan that gives you an out once in a blue moon vs a different kind of player [not tehan obviously, but a player who would only rip QQ+]

now as for tehan ive played with him a bunch and he always shows up with the most retarded holdings like 63o even in 100% solved spots where its obviously an error, so this is pretty expected

finally, bearjew already won this thread so nothing more to say really
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Old 12-17-2011, 03:15 AM   #23
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rousso in interview said she minreraised so she'd have a better chance to make a read and get away from it because she's been playing live for 6 years and trusts her reads....

its not really fair but w/e....
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this is a somewhat legitimate plan so im not really laughing at her. if she really really thinks shes beat she can fold and especially people like her get extra info all the time.. so thats overall a legitimate plan that gives you an out once in a blue moon vs a different kind of player [not tehan obviously, but a player who would only rip QQ+]
Why in gods name wouldnt you flat if that was your plan? Im not saying you cant decide after something happens, but that she chose the nut worst way to go about it, if you arent snapping tehan then its completely braindead
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in faraz's defense....if i was playing w/ 4 superstars i would want to open jam AA a nonzero % of the time....and might be optimal in some spots...

w/ joe tehan and vanessa rousso still left to act w/ heaps....its obviously an error to ship....but in heat of moment bubble of 20k mightve lost his mind.....idk why he would open jam why?????? did he see vanessas cards????
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in faraz's defense....if i was playing w/ 4 superstars i would want to open jam AA a nonzero % of the time....and might be optimal in some spots...

w/ joe tehan and vanessa rousso still left to act w/ heaps....its obviously an error to ship....but in heat of moment bubble of 20k mightve lost his mind.....idk why he would open jam why?????? did he see vanessas cards????
didnt want to give himself a chance to fold later in the hand
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Why in gods name wouldnt you flat if that was your plan? Im not saying you cant decide after something happens, but that she chose the nut worst way to go about it, if you arent snapping tehan then its completely braindead
Iono maybe she didnt want AK to flat / get most of the money in now vs AK, who knows

Overall though its still a legitimate plan to put in 37% of your chips or whatever and decide the rest in a situation where theoretically players are gonna have really narrow ranges (her range theoretically for playing here is like TT+AKs or whatever, so Joe's range is theoretically like QQ+ or whatever) Again Tehan is a clown yadda yadda yadda.

Also I think she is calling tehan 100% of the time with QQ here, I think people are reading too much into her tanking.. there are plenty of players that like, will tank for 2 min even though they are going to call 100% or fold 100% or whatever.
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Munk & kleath win. I'd say Faraz's openjam is worse than Vanessa's tank job tho.
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Overall though its still a legitimate plan to put in 37% of your chips or whatever and decide the rest in a situation where theoretically players are gonna have really narrow ranges
No it really isnt, not when theres a much better option available that achieves the same purpose while risking less.
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Old 12-17-2011, 04:41 AM   #30
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It's not like there are an infinite number (or really large finite number) of preflop scenarios, where you can't take a look around the table and decide exactly what you are going to do in her spot. But I guess you can't legislate for 6 years of honing live reads.
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