Wow the tone of your posts have completely changed. Wonder why?

Went from ANY GAME ANY TIME ANY WHERE HU 4 ROLLZ

to

Well I don't really want to play deep, or no limit, or cash, or hu

Umm I was quoting posts of mine itt in this post. I'm sorry I forgot to call him an idiot.... He is an idiot... So is anyone that defends him. Happy ?

also find it funny that all the people who got "scammed" made off like bandits... i know that's not the point but it's still kinda funny. Anxiously awaiting this hu4rolls@! Brings me back to the good ole days when people challenged each other hu4rollz on the reg... ahhhh.

I never said any game I just said nl or PLO....I never implied any time or Nywhere but I'd be happy for his action wherever I was...and I never mentioned how deep we'd be but the buyin is usually 50 or 100 bb deep standard....500bb deep is a bit absurd and long variance joke.

What is it w these idiots and choosing 500 bb deep poker as their form? Cornell Fiji joe tehan lol...

This idiot hasn't even read my posts itt I bet

Reading this thread I think HSMTT is stooping to NVG level. Im obv not known on this forum but i cant help commenting. TBJ, u seriously need to STFU, you come off really bad in this thread. You have turned a thread about a badly played tournament hand into a personal attack in a way that is totally unacceptable and that would not be tolerated of anyone but someone who like you has for some reason gained a certain amount of internet fame. Do you have any idea how immature you come off in this thread?? I know the standing you have in this forum but GTFO!

I hardly think 50bb to be standard for a cash game. 100-200bb is probably the most "standard" for a live cash game.

Explain the personal attack please? The person I used to make analogies with joe tehan was mother Theresa I made it clear scamming doesn't imply intent. An said I believe he's just ignorant idiot. I'm probably right. Joe tehan being an ignorant idiot doesn't make it ok for him to scam the marketplace and I will post about it! The end!

You need the personal attack explained? Did you not read what you wrote here?

+1 - if anything they should play 200 bb deep - 100 bb is fairly shallow - 50 bb is ridiculous

So based on your quotes it doesn't matter the game, stakes, buyins. Or are you changing your tune? I really don't get why you don't accept the parameters since you are positive Joe is the biggest donkey in the world.

You have been the one constantly calling Joe a scammer, constantly calling him a donkey, constantly saying he can't play worth a lick, then saying you'd play him any games, any stakes, pretty much anything, and we come back w/ ok let's play, $25/$50 nl, $25k freezeout...yet you are making excuses of why you won't play him in this format. You called him out, you said you'd play him in anything, any stakes. Based on that shouldn't Joe be allowed to choose the game/stakes/buyin within reason of his choice?

Did you think Joe is your typical 2+2'er and just talks the talk? When I mentioned the match he was excited and said get it rolling. So now there are reasons why you can't play him? Gtfo

In before TBJ kills himself after Tehan gets 500b in pf with 42o and sucks out. Have to admit that there will be an insane amount of entertainment equity in playing 42o for joe

it's bothersome how opposed every1 is to good old fashioned head up for rollz these days. Back when the forums were starting out it didn't matter what your "ev" was or what the stakes were or who was a favorite blahblahblah. If u had nuts, u challenged someone hu 4 rollz, and if u didn't accept u were a b.itch. I wanna see a blood bath.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/scam
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fraudulent

scam
noun
1. a confidence game or other fraudulent scheme, especially for making a quick profit; swindle.

fraud·u·lent
adjective
1. characterized by, involving, or proceeding from fraud, as actions, enterprise, methods, or gains: a fraudulent scheme to evade taxes.
2. given to or using fraud, as a person; cheating; dishonest.

What definitions are you using? I'd love to know. This was the top google result.

Sorry man thats not a scam, thats just a bad deal. At what cost does the iphone become a scam and who determines this? It is up to the consumer to determine what is a fair price. Now, I know nothing of the 2+2 marketplace and I understand if you want to keep it a friendly swappage site or w/e but you're def wrong on the iphone analogy.

I don't know why the moderators tolerate this. I think this would be a great time to lock the thread.

Live major tournaments are mostly played deep stacked. It is possible for someone to be a live cash game pro with a huge major tournament ROI and be clueless about short stacked situations. I agree JT made a few very lol plays.

It was obvious the 2 other players in the 42o hand also had huge leaks. Yeh a $5 SNG player knows that, but they aren't SNG players or online MTT players. Most SNG players are terrible postflop and would never make the final table of a major tournament.

The only reason this thread hasn't been locked yet is because apparently Bear Jew is a respected poster here.

Compromise? 250 bbs? 100bb is standard for a HU match online but live games typically play much much deeper. At 5/10+, 300bb average stacks are common. It's understandable that Munk wants to play shorter, having had most of his experience online, and Joe wants to play deep, having most of his live.

Overall, it's hard to argue that the deeper you are, the more skill involved and the better player will win more often...esp in a freezeout format. Not sure I'd bet against Ivey 500bbs deep live vs anyone, but there are a handful of players I'd take vs him at 100bbs

BTW I'd just like to mention average stacks at the final table of Epic was between 140 and 170 bbs depending on the level

This thread has been pretty epic. It's enjoyable to read. Why would 2p2 want to squash that?

I'm not arguing semantics with you idiots. I've obviously stated that scamming doesn't have to imply deceit/fraud/etc that I believe ignorance is enough to constitute a scam. Please read through this thread/those HHS/links ITT and argue at the very least Joe tehan isn't ignorant. Cmon. Also google scam implies or does not imply wrongdoing you'll get both matches.

Either way I said a scam is anything where something is worth x sold for y etc....I never called Joe tehan a scumbag or a con artist (I that's a term that implies wrong doing but scammer is better for what tehan did) If you can get an esteemed English professor to say that my usage of scam is terrrible or that scamming 100% has negative intent implied...then I will apologize for misusing a word lol...i still explained enough what I thought it meant

Oh I dunno maybe one poster misapplying the english language in a damaging way towards another poster

+1

Avg stacks! =\= effective stacks...and only reason for that was huge anomaly of an idiot bursting bubble and event being shorthanded invite only all aggressive players....wpts won't have that average. Epic poker has added money so maybe even JT is break-even when you consider that. I've only brought up wpts mostly for 1.2