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05-12-2016 , 09:04 AM

OmahaFanatical4

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hero 37.4k min raises from HJ w/ JdTd to 1600. antes are in play. |
reg sb 3 bets to 4600.

your play?

hero's image is TAG

Last edited by OmahaFanatical4; 05-12-2016 at 09:12 AM.

05-12-2016 , 11:53 AM

ChanY

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Click call and go on from there, feels like you might have 4-bet pre which is not the worst thing in the world. Depends greatly on the stacks you are raising into, what sizes they are and theyr preflop tendencies.

05-13-2016 , 08:47 AM

amit!

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Agree with Chan. With the information you've given its probably a call, but can be a fold depending on a bunch of other factors.

05-13-2016 , 12:04 PM

Beachman42

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SB's stack size here? Any other info on SB? I think 4! might be pretty viable depending on your answers.

Also, full table? How close to the $$$ bubble?

05-13-2016 , 08:48 PM

ebet33

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Not a good 4b candidate. Good price position vs sb who 3b widest range ez dec

05-14-2016 , 12:34 AM

RalphWaldoEmerson

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you should peel like 98o+

05-14-2016 , 11:36 AM

OmahaFanatical4

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sorry guys the results are pretty anti-climactic. hero folded. fun fact : Mike Caro ranks JTs as the 26th best hold'em hand.

05-14-2016 , 11:43 AM

ChanY

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OmahaFanatical4

sorry guys the results are pretty anti-climactic. hero folded. fun fact : Mike Caro ranks JTs as the 26th best hold'em hand.

Would you fold qjt8 with a suit to a 3bet 90bb deep playing plo?

05-14-2016 , 01:16 PM

pkratitsbest

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson

you should peel like 98o+

U mean 98s?? 98o wtf vs 3x. There's another thread that most posters say fold JQs to Scott Seiver 3x 3b in almost exactly same positions n stack sizes.

05-14-2016 , 01:25 PM

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ChanY

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pkratitsbest

U mean 98s?? 98o wtf vs 3x. There's another thread that most posters say fold JQs to Scott Seiver 3x 3b in almost exactly same positions n stack sizes.

Random high stakes donk is probably a tad easier to play OOP in a 3bet-pot than Scott.

edit: we are IP, same logic applies but a bit different

Last edited by ChanY; 05-14-2016 at 01:46 PM.

05-14-2016 , 01:31 PM

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RalphWaldoEmerson

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pkratitsbest

U mean 98s?? 98o wtf vs 3x. There's another thread that most posters say fold JQs to Scott Seiver 3x 3b in almost exactly same positions n stack sizes.

no i meant 98o, its not even 3x and theres antes and we're IP and ****. maybe like JTo+ 76s.

05-14-2016 , 08:19 PM

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OmahaFanatical4

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pkratitsbest

U mean 98s?? 98o wtf vs 3x. There's another thread that most posters say fold JQs to Scott Seiver 3x 3b in almost exactly same positions n stack sizes.

its called group think most people just follow the crowd

05-14-2016 , 08:20 PM

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OmahaFanatical4

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Quote:

Would you fold qjt8 with a suit to a 3bet 90bb deep playing plo?

I would defend like at least 90% vs a three bet in plo. maybe more. QJT8 is a fistpump call.

05-15-2016 , 01:10 PM

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pkratitsbest

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson

no i meant 98o, its not even 3x and theres antes and we're IP and ****. maybe like JTo+ 76s.

Haha u are so jonathan Jaffe... He defends 3b w Q8o Btn vs SB... I'm such a nit. Prefer 67s over sth like JTo if I do decide to peel super wide..

05-15-2016 , 01:12 PM

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pkratitsbest

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChanY

Random high stakes donk is probably a tad easier to play OOP in a 3bet-pot than Scott.

edit: we are IP, same logic applies but a bit different

The QJs hand vs Seiver hero is IP. I'm shocked that most ppl say fold. Well 2013 old days.

05-15-2016 , 07:15 PM

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erc007

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OmahaFanatical4

sorry guys the results are pretty anti-climactic. hero folded. fun fact : Mike Caro ranks JTs as the 26th best hold'em hand.

nhnh...u show down junk like JTs and there goes ur TAG image...and ur bluff opps (using the TAG image etc)....Discretion is the better part of valour...

05-15-2016 , 09:37 PM

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rm81

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folding is not an option, you could jam this also.

05-20-2016 , 06:48 PM

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DuckU

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ebet33

Not a good 4b candidate. Good price position vs sb who 3b widest range ez dec

Agree with ebet33, since J-10 suited flops well and price seems right, call is optimal, but possibly a fold depending on stack sizes and SB image/play.

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