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Old 04-18-2012, 08:26 PM   #176
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Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

$100^3 Turbo FT
Villain is Eisenhower, who has had no problem open ripping this same stack OTB, and he also folded 8BBs OTB once last level when SB was disconnected.

Seems cray to fold in a vacuum but given that he seems more polarized here (and would he really be that light given my stack) can we make an argument for it?

Maybe just a matter of me learning some math/SNGwiz stuff, so if any experts in those areas come across this and are looking for a new student, please PM me.

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    Preflop: Hero is SB with 4 4
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    Old 04-18-2012, 08:35 PM   #177
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    Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

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    UKIPT Day 1b

    Full table at 150/300
    UTG+1 has 16k
    surindar has 22k
    I cover

    UTG +1 opens for 800 and Surindar Sunar flats in the HJ , I am in SB with QQ and raise to 2050( to small i know now) utg folds and surindar flats again(why wouldnt he as he has odds to call everything he flatted 1st time).
    Flop A79 rainbow
    Surindar chk calls my cbet of 2550
    Turn A
    Chk ,Chk
    River is a blank and Surindar fires for 3300 into a 10-11k pot.
    I feel that a/my hand is quite face up but b/wouldn't he want a bit more value if he had an A.?
    Just feel after thinking about it that i shudda called.
    Thx for replies

    How'd he x/call IP? Assume you mean he called your cbet. I think I call and expect to be shown a better hand a lot of the time, I guess. He could take this line with TT or JJ, but he could also have AX and just want to be sure you don't hero fold, so I can't really hate on folding either. Bottom line is I don't think he's bluffing you here, and there are fewer hands he's betting for value that we beat than beat us, just a matter of if the odds compensate.
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    Old 04-19-2012, 08:09 AM   #178
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    Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

    Low content question

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3omiF...eature=related

    How the F*** does someone fold there?!? I can't even fold TPTK and/or overpairs when over half my stack is already invested by the flop

    Screw the math, follow your read...end of story?
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    Old 04-19-2012, 12:09 PM   #179
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    Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

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    $100^3 Turbo FT
    Villain is Eisenhower, who has had no problem open ripping this same stack OTB, and he also folded 8BBs OTB once last level when SB was disconnected.

    Seems cray to fold in a vacuum but given that he seems more polarized here (and would he really be that light given my stack) can we make an argument for it?

    Maybe just a matter of me learning some math/SNGwiz stuff, so if any experts in those areas come across this and are looking for a new student, please PM me.

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      BB: 478,458 (19.1 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 4 4
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      Definitely fold, flipping here is a disaster
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      Old 04-19-2012, 12:21 PM   #180
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      Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

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      Definitely fold, flipping here is a disaster
      Agree. We have 0 FE, and are basically flipping against his range, and maybe worse since he is obv not opening ATC if he is folding 8BB from BTN with SB sitting out.


      As to the set of tens fold by Balmigere, never folding to a rube who could easily have KQ or KT and think it is the dead solid nuts. There could have been a physical or sizing tell I suppose, but too many players like Moon will think they have the nuts with KQ (see also the HSP hand where Doyle folded the Q hi flush because Jamie Gold thought his J hi flush was the nuts).
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      Old 04-20-2012, 07:36 AM   #181
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      Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

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      Couple quick preflop spots from the Borgata 1k

      Hand #1:

      Middle aged Russian guy, has been fairly active, not afraid to put chips in, but not super insane either, opens to 3,300 at 600/1200 from UTG+1. He starts the hand with 45k. Good young LAG who has been playing about 60% of pots, and running the table over, flats the button with 150k. I have 90k and AJo in the BB. Fold, call or 3b/fold? If we 3b, what sizing? I've been tight with opens but have 3bet a decent amount at this table. Fairly confident the Russian will jam JJ/AK to my 3bet, not sure what he does with AQ or TT.

      Hand #2:

      24 left and 18 pay. Avg stack 125k. Fairly spewy, splashy live regfish who likes to fistpump and hi-five his friends when he sucks out for a big pot, opens to 7k at 1k/2k, starting the hand with 75k from the HJ. Same good LAG from hand 1 3bets to 20.5k (he has 200k). I have TT in the BB and 102k. I have a reasonably strong read that the LAG has a hand he's getting it in with vs the splashy guy. Table is pretty soft overall. Fold or jam?
      h1 I would definitely squeeze but would study villain 1's reaction to the flat. Would probably make it 9900 ish but not sure what sizings you had been using ip/oop.

      Not sure if v2 is super laggy vs 3-bets as well but your 3b would look super strong so I can't really see him being too thrilled about calling with his suited connectors or w/e. Think you can take down most dry boards as well very very frequently.

      h2 seems like a really close spot with your reasonably strong read. This is live so is a range of TT/AQ intending to get it in vs the 70k too wide? Too tight? Not really sure. I might fold TT and go with JJ/AK but can't really fault a shove here especially since your read could be off.
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      Old 04-20-2012, 07:46 AM   #182
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      Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

      final 3 of 55T vs two top HS regs. 10k, 7k, 5k payouts.

      raising isn't really an option here due to aggro dynamics. i'm probably jamming k8s+ in this spot and KTo. Does that sound about right?

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      Hero (BTN): t979616.00 12.25 BBs - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 3.8, Hands: 375549
      SB: t1586720.00 19.83 BBs - VPIP: 19, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 7.5, Hands: 330

      Pre Flop: (t120000) Hero is BTN with K 9
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      Old 04-20-2012, 04:52 PM   #183
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      Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

      def shove this, i think the K5 call was where you went wrong.
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      Old 04-20-2012, 06:18 PM   #184
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      Definitely fold, flipping here is a disaster
      mmk so worst pair we get it in with is? for that matter, our getting it in range is?
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      Old 04-23-2012, 12:44 AM   #185
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      Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

      2-3 tables left in Sunday 109c turbo. Villain is a really good HS regular. Am I being results oriented that he was crushing me or do you think the situation tightens his range enough?


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      MP2: t171980 M = 3.85
      CO: t275274 M = 6.17
      BTN: t531501 M = 11.91
      SB: t324172 M = 7.26
      Hero (BB): t361588 M = 8.10
      UTG: t697279 M = 15.63
      UTG+1: t87660 M = 1.96
      UTG+2: t74957 M = 1.68

      Pre Flop: (t44625) Hero is BB with Q K
      3 folds, MP1 raises to t186513 all in, 4 folds, Hero calls t169513
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      Old 04-23-2012, 04:31 PM   #186
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      Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

      Fold KK Preflop?


      Mp3 = Tyren0

      Utg+1 = reg who may or may not be winning player

      I have a note on BB that he's a "possible super fish" so I don't really pay too much mind to either of the OOP weird flats.

      It's the Big 162

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        BTN: 2,920 (97.3 bb)
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        BB: 2,862 (95.4 bb)
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        UTG+2: 2,970 (99 bb)
        MP1: 2,577 (85.9 bb)
        MP2: 2,760 (92 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is CO with K K
        UTG+1 raises to 60, 3 folds, MP3 raises to 180, Hero raises to 450, 2 folds, BB calls 420, UTG+1 calls 390, MP3 raises to 3,000 and is all-in, Hero ?



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        Old 04-23-2012, 10:51 PM   #187
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        Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

        I'd probably call now Shane, I'm not convinced his range is {AA} and with the it's pretty unlikely the super-fish or UTG+1 have it given the action. But flat the 3-bet.
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        Old 04-24-2012, 01:41 AM   #188
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        Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

        FT of a $109. I have been somewhat tight at this table, but am generally pretty active.

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        fold, Hero ?

        Debating between a jam and a raise/fold. Thoughts?
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        Old 04-24-2012, 06:29 AM   #189
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        Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

        Depends on what you've been doing/intend to do with the rest of your range. I don't think one strategy is clearly better than the other, and I think discussing the spot in a vacuum is stupid.
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        Old 04-24-2012, 11:58 AM   #190
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        Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

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        Depends on what you've been doing/intend to do with the rest of your range. I don't think one strategy is clearly better than the other, and I think discussing the spot in a vacuum is stupid.
        I was very short and had been tight, had recently doubled up, then minraised a few times to take down 2 or 3 pots preflop. I do all four things (raise/call, raise/fold, jam, openfold) in this spot with various ranges. I guess I lead toward a jam with my small pp a some suited aces, but I am wondering if the icm implications would push me away from risking my whole stack with the small pp. Sorry for starting a stupid discussion
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        Old 04-24-2012, 06:29 PM   #191
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        Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

        Opener is someone I don't recognize, he's from the UK. I 3-bet him in similar positions last orbit and 3b/folded a flop.

        4-bettor is Pas Lefrancois, who I know is good. He's been on the snug side so far.

        Flat, jam, or fold?


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          Mounty15 (MP1): 4,751 (79.2 bb)
          Hero (MP2): 3,997 (66.6 bb)
          roo_400 (MP3): 7,414 (123.6 bb)
          subiime (CO): 1,160 (19.3 bb)
          H1TMANSH (BTN): 4,730 (78.8 bb)
          Pass_72 (SB): 4,210 (70.2 bb)
          jonyctt (BB): 5,378 (89.6 bb)
          Flush_Entity (UTG+1): 4,160 (69.3 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q Q
          Flush_Entity folds, MendaLerenda raises to 135, Mounty15 folds, Hero raises to 400, 3 folds, Pass_72 raises to 915, 2 folds




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          Old 04-24-2012, 06:33 PM   #192
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          Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

          Opener is a Swedish supernova. Bet or check turn?


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            Mounty15 (CO): 5,210 (173.7 bb)
            Hero (BTN): 5,010 (167 bb)
            roo_400 (SB): 4,749 (158.3 bb)
            subiime (BB): 3,240 (108 bb)
            H1TMANSH (UTG+2): 5,285 (176.2 bb)
            Pass_72 (MP1): 5,000 (166.7 bb)
            jonyctt (MP2): 5,000 (166.7 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q K
            4 folds, Mounty15 raises to 90, Hero calls 90, 2 folds

            Flop: (225) K 9 T (2 players)
            Mounty15 bets 120, Hero calls 120

            Turn: (465) 5 (2 players)
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            Old 04-24-2012, 06:51 PM   #193
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            Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

            shaniac - I'd call for sure, tyren0 will have QQ/AK often enough

            nicholasJ - I think this is a clear jam, because of stacks ad ICM. You cant raise/call

            nsb QQ - I'd call in position and not fold on low flops, peel once on like JT4 flops and giveup turn prob

            nsb KQo - I'd bet half pot
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            Old 04-24-2012, 06:56 PM   #194
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            Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

            sunday 6max, around 130left, 114 pay, villain is JIZOINT, chipleading the tournament and playing very aggresive and active, running at 32/30 over ~100hands.



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              UTG: 37,899 (47.4 bb)
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              CO: 28,353 (35.4 bb)
              BTN: 29,493 (36.9 bb)
              SB: 9,124 (11.4 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is MP with A T
              UTG folds, Hero raises to 1,600, 3 folds, BB calls 800

              Flop: (4,200) Q 3 A (2 players)
              BB checks, Hero bets 1,640, BB calls 1,640

              Turn: (7,480) K (2 players)
              BB bets 2,842, Hero calls 2,842

              River: (13,164) T (2 players)
              BB bets 65,600, Hero 14k left




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              Old 04-24-2012, 07:03 PM   #195
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              I'd fold river and feel fine about it. Hard for him to get there with hands that want to/need to bluff
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              Old 04-24-2012, 07:12 PM   #196
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              Bigger162, villain is a russian mediocre reg, 100k+up, but all of it from one score

              Plan on turn and river?

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              UTG+1: 5,007 (50.1 bb)
              Hero (UTG+2): 3,010 (30.1 bb)
              MP1: 5,777 (57.8 bb)
              MP2: 7,202 (72 bb)
              MP3: 3,000 (30 bb)
              CO: 3,258 (32.6 bb)
              BTN: 3,802 (38 bb)
              SB: 3,560 (35.6 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with Q Q
              UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to 200, MP1 folds, MP2 calls 200, MP3 calls 200, 2 folds, SB calls 150, BB folds

              Flop: (990) 6 2 3 (4 players)
              SB checks, Hero bets 440, MP2 folds, MP3 calls 440, SB folds

              Turn: (1,870) 2 (2 players)
              Hero 2300 behind
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              Old 04-24-2012, 07:45 PM   #197
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              With nsbs image shove qq pre

              Absolutely bet turn with kq

              Fold river with at we have lots of straights and flushes in our range

              Shove or bet call qq and hope villain cant fold 99
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              Old 04-24-2012, 07:46 PM   #198
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              x/jam and jam every river if he checks turn.
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              Old 04-24-2012, 07:50 PM   #199
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              Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

              Re: the small pair, 20BBs, final table scenarios. Everyone talks about the ICM effect of not being able to raise call, but ICM effects the profitability of open jamming too. A lot of the time I'll look to raise fold, unless the specific tendencies of the villains make that a no go.

              Is shoving 20.5BBs in nicholas's spot there definitely showing a profit? My gut says I'd openfold it if I couldn't profitably raise/fold, but I'd sure like to see the math. 18-19BBs and I'd probably find a shove.
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              It's definitely showing a profit, by minraising youre very vulnerable to get exploited by both blinds, whereas by shoving neither of them can call you light, bigstack wants to maintain stacksize statusquo, shortstack calling and losing is a huge icm problem
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