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Old 03-13-2012, 03:57 PM   #101
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Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

Still just better to be unbalanced, ship in your small-mid pps and KQ type hands and minraise the v top and bottom of you range (imo)
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Old 03-13-2012, 06:00 PM   #102
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Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

If people are reshipping so wide since it's the bubble, why do we even have a "bottom" of our range?
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:33 PM   #103
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Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

They are reshipping because we cant call correctly. Correct adjustment is to r/c hands that we can, openshove hands that we can openshove but cant r/call and r/f hands that arent good enough to openshove but still decent. Of course if you dont care about balance and these two guys shoves so much it isnt + ev to r/f anything, dont have a r/f range.
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Old 03-14-2012, 02:05 AM   #104
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Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

i don't think you should have a much of a r/f range if any with this dynamic. you need a pretty specific history with some of the regs behind to be able to r/f profitably with your stack
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:18 AM   #105
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Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

SB is a clown so he can have pretty much anything but he 3 bets his premiums so i think he'll cold 4 bet his QQ and KK. MP has tight-ish reg stats but seems to be 3 bet happy. I have won every pot i have been in since the begging of the tournament.
I know this is less than ideal flop but can i do anything but just pile it here? They have 10 and 11k left respectively.

PokerStars - €91+€9|60/120 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 13,541.00
CO: 7,677.00
BTN: 15,550.00
SB: 13,472.00
BB: 9,985.00
Hero (UTG): 21,328.00
UTG+1: 3,438.00
UTG+2: 9,459.00
MP: 14,255.00

MP+1 posts ante 15.00, CO posts ante 15.00, BTN posts ante 15.00, SB posts ante 15.00, BB posts ante 15.00, Hero posts ante 15.00, UTG+1 posts ante 15.00, UTG+2 posts ante 15.00, MP posts ante 15.00, SB posts SB 60.00, BB posts BB 120.00

Pre Flop: (pot: 315.00) Hero has A A

Hero raises to 360.00, fold, fold, MP raises to 1,080.00, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 1,020.00, fold, Hero raises to 2,640.00, MP calls 1,560.00, SB calls 1,560.00

Flop: (8175.00, 3 players) K Q 8
SB checks, Hero
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:49 AM   #106
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Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

more pre and id bet like 3333/c
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Old 03-14-2012, 11:13 PM   #107
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Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

23 players to go, Villain is Illini, he's been super active, opening about 2-3 hands per orbit the last few orbits. I've been fairly quiet picking my spots carefully.

I've seen him 4bet/c w/ 88 in almost the exact same spot vs another player one orbit ago so I was almost actually expecting the 4bet since I assume he's 4betting here w/ prob his entire range, having seen how active he's been and capable of being light.

I decide to 3 bet to discourage all the squeeze stacks behind from squeezing.

Standard 5 bet shove? Fold pre? Fold to the 4 bet?

    Poker Stars, $100 Buy-in (800/1,600 blinds, 150 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
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    UncaJ5 (BB): 26,168 (16.4 bb)
    KKremate (MP1): 24,712 (15.4 bb)
    Illini213 (MP2): 101,915 (63.7 bb)
    Hero (MP3): 58,090 (36.3 bb)
    Ryddis (CO): 23,504 (14.7 bb)
    Ouaga11 (BTN): 22,571 (14.1 bb)
    arcadotempo (SB): 33,330 (20.8 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 6 6
    KKremate folds, Illini213 raises to 3,485, Hero raises to 7,145, 4 folds, Illini213 raises to 15,146, Hero ???




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    Old 03-14-2012, 11:26 PM   #108
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    Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

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    more pre and id bet like 3333/c
    Well, i realized i should have made it 3k or something as for them both to have 1 psb each on the flop but i got my mat wrong and i thought 2.7k does that.

    Why be small on the flop? Do you think if we bet small we may get peeled by JJ?
    I'm not sure i understand your thinking of betting small...
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    Old 03-14-2012, 11:28 PM   #109
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    snap
    Why do you 3bet this amount when you have no idea what you want to do when he 4 bets?
    Either 3bet bigger or shove this when he 4 bets you if this was you thinking.
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    Old 03-15-2012, 05:04 AM   #110
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    Well, i realized i should have made it 3k or something as for them both to have 1 psb each on the flop but i got my mat wrong and i thought 2.7k does that.

    Why be small on the flop? Do you think if we bet small we may get peeled by JJ?
    I'm not sure i understand your thinking of betting small...
    I guess we can fold if both players get it in after us. Shoving won't make any hands beating us fold so might as well give the illusion we might fold and get someone to get it in with a part of their range were ahead of.
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    Old 03-15-2012, 11:44 AM   #111
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    Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

    5 left 320 6max, villain is insanocut. He has played superactive, and a lot of weird hands, like this one (he is co):
      Poker Stars, $300 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 70 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12185242

      BTN: 38,628 (64.4 bb)
      SB: 28,140 (46.9 bb)
      BB: 40,938 (68.2 bb)
      Hero (MP): 13,942 (23.2 bb)
      CO: 47,728 (79.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with Q J
      Hero raises to 1,200, CO calls 1,200, BTN raises to 7,200, 3 folds, CO calls 6,000

      Flop: (16,850) 4 7 K (2 players)
      CO checks, BTN bets 7,800, CO calls 7,800

      Turn: (32,450) 9 (2 players)
      CO checks, BTN checks

      River: (32,450) 2 (2 players)
      CO bets 32,658 and is all-in, BTN folds

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      Toughts on turn? I had been playing pretty tight due to tabledraw/stacksize. I considered every option really...

        [hand_history]Poker Stars, $300 Buy-in (500/1,000 blinds, 125 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12185222

        SB: 76,746 (76.7 bb)
        BB: 91,156 (91.2 bb)
        MP: 33,863 (33.9 bb)
        Hero (CO): 29,147 (29.1 bb)
        BTN: 186,088 (186.1 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is CO with A T
        MP folds, Hero raises to 2,000, BTN calls 2,000, SB folds, BB calls 1,000

        Flop: (7,125) A 4 6 (3 players)
        BB checks, Hero bets 3,333, BTN calls 3,333, BB folds

        Turn: (13,791) Q (2 players)
        Hero?
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        Old 03-15-2012, 12:04 PM   #112
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        Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

        I'd check call turn and i'm pretty sure will call river as well. With A, T and Q of spades out there he does not really have many flushes imo.
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        Old 03-17-2012, 01:21 AM   #113
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        At hand is gross. I'd check and call or fold depending on sizing l
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        Old 03-17-2012, 01:30 AM   #114
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        Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

        this thread is a cluster****... and some of these hands would have made good threads.
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        Old 03-17-2012, 11:13 AM   #115
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        this thread is a cluster****... and some of these hands would have made good threads.
        Personally would like to see that MarGar hand turned into a thread
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        Old 03-17-2012, 02:00 PM   #116
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        Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

        That's the point of this thread. Fill it with **** until there's a good hand and someone makes a seperate thread.
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        Old 03-17-2012, 02:12 PM   #117
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        this thread is a cluster****... and some of these hands would have made good threads.
        +1
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        Old 03-17-2012, 08:01 PM   #118
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        Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

        Big 109 FT. Getting 11 to win 57, jam on BB, or call and see?

          Poker Stars, $100 Buy-in (8,000/16,000 blinds, 2,000 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12197752

          Hero (SB): 506,979 (31.7 bb)
          BB: 210,719 (13.2 bb)
          MP1: 352,190 (22 bb)
          MP2: 818,853 (51.2 bb)
          MP3: 548,412 (34.3 bb)
          CO: 21,193 (1.3 bb)
          BTN: 805,654 (50.4 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 5
          3 folds, CO raises to 19,193 and is all-in, BTN folds, Hero ???



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          Old 03-17-2012, 08:03 PM   #119
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          Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

          i think id just call and fold if bb shoves. maybe just fold outright
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          Old 03-17-2012, 09:04 PM   #120
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          5 left 320 6max, villain is insanocut. He has played superactive, and a lot of weird hands, like this one (he is co):
            Poker Stars, $300 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 70 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12185242

            BTN: 38,628 (64.4 bb)
            SB: 28,140 (46.9 bb)
            BB: 40,938 (68.2 bb)
            Hero (MP): 13,942 (23.2 bb)
            CO: 47,728 (79.5 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is MP with Q J
            Hero raises to 1,200, CO calls 1,200, BTN raises to 7,200, 3 folds, CO calls 6,000

            Flop: (16,850) 4 7 K (2 players)
            CO checks, BTN bets 7,800, CO calls 7,800

            Turn: (32,450) 9 (2 players)
            CO checks, BTN checks

            River: (32,450) 2 (2 players)
            CO bets 32,658 and is all-in, BTN folds

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            Toughts on turn? I had been playing pretty tight due to tabledraw/stacksize. I considered every option really...

              [hand_history]Poker Stars, $300 Buy-in (500/1,000 blinds, 125 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12185222

              SB: 76,746 (76.7 bb)
              BB: 91,156 (91.2 bb)
              MP: 33,863 (33.9 bb)
              Hero (CO): 29,147 (29.1 bb)
              BTN: 186,088 (186.1 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is CO with A T
              MP folds, Hero raises to 2,000, BTN calls 2,000, SB folds, BB calls 1,000

              Flop: (7,125) A 4 6 (3 players)
              BB checks, Hero bets 3,333, BTN calls 3,333, BB folds

              Turn: (13,791) Q (2 players)
              Hero?
              I'd check and call, then decide river. If he's been so aggro then he 3bets all bigger aces pre, but when we don't fold our hand looks a lot like AT with the Ts so gl on the river.
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              Old 03-18-2012, 12:21 PM   #121
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              If people think there are threadworthy hands itt, I can extract them.
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              Old 03-18-2012, 01:00 PM   #122
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              265 KO. Standard jam? How much do we need to adjust the bottom of our range given he'll call a little wider for the bounties?



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                Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12199982

                Hero (SB): 9,660 (16.1 bb)
                chopi7 (BB): 29,609 (49.3 bb)
                zinkAA (UTG+2): 16,706 (27.8 bb)
                Teven44 (MP1): 6,352 (10.6 bb)
                ernchen77 (MP2): 8,140 (13.6 bb)
                Turko_man (MP3): 13,069 (21.8 bb)
                WhiteRabbito (CO): 7,704 (12.8 bb)
                Rugster1 (BTN): 20,896 (34.8 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is SB with K 5
                6 folds, Hero raises to 9,590 and is all-in, chopi7 folds




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                Old 03-18-2012, 01:06 PM   #123
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                unexploitable
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                Old 03-18-2012, 02:20 PM   #124
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                Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

                500+500€ turbo bounty at ept copenhagen.
                I have a 1k€ last longer sidebet with a player at another table. (he has a decent amount of chips, prob second at his table)

                8 handed, I cover to people to my right, all players to the left covers me.
                16bbs and get KQo utg+2 (so everyone covers me)

                Romanello is at my direct left and will reshove any not horrible cards (85o and stuff)

                Fold/shove?
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                Old 03-18-2012, 02:26 PM   #125
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                Raise/call Romanello and decide vs the rest. You do pretty well against random flat ranges and not giving Roberto the chance to tool out sucks
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